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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/16/2006 @ 9:53 am PT…

I can’t delay to see this! Accomplish abiding you cavalcade the video, Brad. I bet it’s not activity to be clear.

COMMENT #2 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/16/2006 @ 9:54 am PT…

What if it shows a animation alike hitting the pentagon?

COMMENT #3 [Permalink]… Susan said on 5/16/2006 @ 9:58 am PT…

This should get interesting…

COMMENT #4 [Permalink]… Peg C said on 5/16/2006 @ 10:13 am PT…

It should activity to anybody that four and a bisected years is affluence of time to dub up some “special effects.” As with ALL accessible releases accepting to do with this “administration,” the timing is abominable suspect. I’m not one of those who subscribe to the “missile hit the Pentagon” theory, but I don’t anticipate a 757 did, either…

COMMENT #5 [Permalink]… bedazzled affectionate redneck said on 5/16/2006 @ 10:25 am PT…

holy shit!!!

lets see what affectionate of alien technology can vaporize a plane

911 accurateness seekers

COMMENT #6 [Permalink]… Paul said on 5/16/2006 @ 10:27 am PT…

Well, it takes a few years to doctor a video, right?

COMMENT #7 [Permalink]… Hidden Duke said on 5/16/2006 @ 10:35 am PT…

Yeah, I had heard some months aback that this was activity to happen, and of course, the big catechism is, why delay about bristles years to actualization the afresh adapted allocation of the Pentagram accepting hit?

And why were those intial frames that were arise so birdbrained and elusive, alternating with the incorrect date on the bottom? They didn’t stop adventurous footage of the architectonics achievement hit over abhorrence of abaft the public’s sensibilities, that’s nonsense; they commonly dispense and accomplishment the public’s sensibilities. No, they chock-full adventurous it on cable “news” because there are anomalies aural that footage that doesn’t applesauce with the official adaptation of events.

Irregardless of what hit the Pentagram, there charcoal abundant red flags re 9/11 that no one wants to touch.

COMMENT #8 [Permalink]… Susan said on 5/16/2006 @ 10:46 am PT…

C’mon guys, let’s accord the government some credit…After all, that affectionate of tediuos photoshopping isn’t easy. I’m abiding it took at diminutive three years. Of course, afterwards all that adamantine appointment they capital to ascendancy assimilate the video until aloof the adapted moment for release. Say…just above-mentioned to annual of a Karl Rove allegation perhaps?

And of advanced they didn’t appetite to admission the Moussaui trial. Afterwards all, they aboveboard such authentic abstemiousness with those 911 emergency anxiety tapes and victims’ families testimonies.

Geez you all complete so, so, so, I don’t know, angry, perhaps?

COMMENT #9 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/16/2006 @ 10:53 am PT…

COMMENT #10 [Permalink]… PetGoat said on 5/16/2006 @ 10:55 am PT…

Woah, I came in achievement intending to cavalcade somethingexpressing pre-emptivce skepticism about the video’sveracity, apprehension I’d be way out in larboard field. I don’tclaim to apperceive what happened at the Pentagon, becausethe advice is aloof not available, but I’m not preparedto aphorism out any of the theories yet.

COMMENT #11 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/16/2006 @ 10:55 am PT…

COMMENT #12 [Permalink]… Nicholas said on 5/16/2006 @ 10:57 am PT…

:crazy: Able-bodied Im not abiding what to anticipate NOW, untill I can absolutely see this for real, abnormally afterwards watching CONFRONTING THE EVIDENCE: A CALL TO REOPEN THE 9/11 INVESTIGATION., (that had me absolutely analytic EVERYTHING this administering anytime told was the truth, so I will acquire as calm as accessible till I see this afresh We can see if it can ablaze annihilation up for the millions of abashed Americans.The achievement that acquaint avant-garde are adapted acceptance about this administering they are able of anything…. …..Doctoring….ect.. If you appetite to see the CONFRONTING DVD adapted you can get a chargeless archetype of the dvd at the site: http://reopen911.org/index.htm or watch it at:http://video.google.com/…362123&q=9/11 reopen

COMMENT #13 [Permalink]… Paul said on 5/16/2006 @ 10:58 am PT…

I’m absolutely affronted about it, but I’m additionally complete puzzled.

If 9/11 is SUCH a advised case, why are we clumsy to get all the answers?

If 9/11 is authentic achievement and not fiction, why are the facts pointing added arise an alternating book than the ones we acquire been presented with?

I assumption we allegation acquire that we WERE attacked, no bulk whom or how.

What should bulk is how we acquire HANDLED this advanced since.

1.) We’ve not bent the perpetrator, because we would acquire heard about it.

2.) Our administering in their complete airs deflected our angelic acrimony adjoin the perpetrator and spuriously attacked a absolutist of accession country that had annihilation to do with this crime.

3.) We acquire let the adumbration of agitation consistently abrade our noncombatant liberties and about destroyed the complete bolt of who we are as a people.

Luckily Americans acquire a deep-seeded disbelief and antipathy for government, so while it may booty us some time, we eventually bandy the bums out.

We apperceive we were attacked, it doesn’t bulk adapted now who did it and why. What should bulk to us now, is our response. And we MUST accomplish the acknowledgment ablaze in November if we acquire any hopes in arbor aback this blood-red advanced of paranoia and fear.

Do I apprehend an “Amen!”, brothers and sisters?

COMMENT #14 [Permalink]… loretta said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:02 am PT…

This had bigger be good. It bigger authenticate how the alike hit aerial abandoned about 20′ aloft the aboriginal lawn, how it burrowed through 3 authentic able rings, how it abandoned larboard a 16′ hole, how the wings, appendage and 2 nine-foot bore engines abandoned into diminutive fragments. The alike bigger be white and not gray, aback that allotment of atom (photgraphed in about 5 adapted places) was white with a red A on it.

If it’s not ablaze ablaze what happened, it won’t change a thing.

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:06 am PT…

On accession blog the catechism arose, “How could a Boeing 727 (737?) alike accomplish abandoned a 12-foot avant-garde atrium in the Pentagon coffer on both admission and departure?” Acknowledgment given: “The wings bankrupt adjoin the accession on impact.”

Question: “Assuming this happened, and the amplitude of the two wings were added to the amplitude of the accession from that point backward, would this arise to abandoned 12 feet?” Seems to me it would be 20 feet, at least.

COMMENT #16 [Permalink]… Hidden Duke said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:07 am PT…

Sounds like it’s a ruse. Aloof watched Pete Williams on MSNBC adage that all you’re activity to see is a “different angle” of those aforementioned still photos that were arise avant-garde on – and of advanced ZERO acknowledgment of that incorrect date (Sept 12th!) at the basal – and that you can see “the tip of the plane,” but, he said, and this is revealing, allegedly not abundant to amuse those “conspiracy theorists.”

Uh-huh. Exactly. Assumption we’ll delay and see…

COMMENT #17 [Permalink]… Ricky said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:07 am PT…

Do you bodies apprehend how antic you sound? That achievement that you absolutely acquire thsi applesauce your spewing is unreal. Its air-conditioned to try and altercate you contrarily aback bodies as crazy as yourselves are too far for absoluteness to annual concern.

As sad as it is to apprehend the around-the-clock pro-terrorist, anti American discussion, it ensures my parties ascendancy of American government.

I feel apologetic for you all, but acknowledge you abundantly for authoritative Democrats attending so bad.

COMMENT #18 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:10 am PT…

I consistently knew this day would arise aback new video of this would be released. Hopefully this will blackout the tin antithesis hat army that thinks a missle hit the Pentagon.

COMMENT #19 [Permalink]… PetGoat said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:11 am PT…

I’ve been aggravating to anticipate what Carl Rove would do to tryto do the best draft to the 911truthists.

And I’m apprehensive if absolution a fakey-looking video offlight 77 would serve his interests: All the truthists wouldget on lath adage the video was fakey, and afresh theBushcists could say “See, that eholr agglomeration of looniesthinks the Pentagon was hit with a missile!”

COMMENT #20 [Permalink]… PetGoat said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:12 am PT…

Sorry, “eholr” is typoese for “whole”

COMMENT #21 [Permalink]… Hidden Duke said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:14 am PT…

Go fuck yourself Ricky. And afresh apprehend Paul Thompson’s Timeline, and David Ray Griffin’s two books on the subject. And afresh ask yourself: why did the Bureau not abode so abounding things, including the towers’ axial animate columns, the PNAC, Larry Silverstein’s accepting of “pulling” belfry #7, and in fact, the Bureau never alike mentions belfry #7 – a 47 adventitious architectonics collapses, the buyer admits it was “pulled” on camera, and they don’t acknowledgment it already in their findings. 9/11 was a apocryphal banderole psyop bare as the adapted absolution for added amplification of ascendancy which necessitates rolling aback noncombatant liberties.

And balloon about dems – why are associates of aloft REPUBLICAN admin’s lending their names to the 9/11 Accurateness Movement?

COMMENT #22 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:15 am PT…

If no alike hit the Pentagon, can somebody from the tin antithesis hat army acquaint me (and the families) breadth the bodies on that alike are. I’d adulation to apprehend this…

COMMENT #23 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:16 am PT…

Judicial Watch. Org allegation acquire crashed…

COMMENT #24 [Permalink]… Hidden Duke said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:27 am PT…

Jeff, the Accurateness Movement isn’t about aggravating to prove what happened, it’s about complete omissions and implausibilities aural the “official” version. And breadth there are lies and omissions, there is a awning up. Breadth there’s a awning up, accession is lying. From there, it’s the archetypal catechism of motive: who benefits, and why?

I’m borderline of what hit the Pentagram, although I abort to see how the astronomic accession and appendage bulk of a 757 could not leave impressions in the coffer – which, afore the roof burst later, had abandoned a 16 ft avant-garde aperture in it.

http://911review.com/pm/markup/index.html

COMMENT #25 [Permalink]… Nicholas said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:29 am PT…

Ricky aloof shows how Aboveboard he is, not to acknowledgment UNAMERICAN & UNPATRIOTIC. To aloof acquire what anytime he is told & not DEMAND that the accurateness be told, so far the backcountry administering has done annihilation but mislead America, nevermind done Zero about investigating 9/11 absolutely , DO YOUR HOMEWORK ricky afresh arise aback & cry aback the democrates win by a LANDSLIDE this nov. ,because the backcountry administering is fabricated up of incompetant liars & bankrupt the Repulicans name . Added added I saw cipher achievement acknowledgment any political affilation to any party, so GROW would you.http://video.google.com/…362123&q=9/11 reopen

COMMENT #26 [Permalink]… Nicholas said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:31 am PT…

Ricky aloof shows how Aboveboard he is, not to acknowledgment UNAMERICAN & UNPATRIOTIC. To aloof acquire what anytime he is told & not DEMAND that the accurateness be told, so far the backcountry administering has done annihilation but mislead America, nevermind done Zero about investigating 9/11 absolutely , DO YOUR HOMEWORK ricky afresh arise aback & cry aback the democrates win by a LANDSLIDE this nov. ,because the backcountry administering is fabricated up of incompetant liars & bankrupt the Repulicans name . Added added I saw cipher achievement acknowledgment any political affilation to any party, so GROW UP would you.http://video.google.com/…362123&q=9/11 reopen

COMMENT #27 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:31 am PT…

If a alike did not hit the Pentagon, breadth are the bodies who were on lath Flight 77? Are they allotment of the conspiracy?

If not a plane, afresh what?

COMMENT #28 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:33 am PT…

Who has aboveboard or has admission to the new video?

COMMENT #29 [Permalink]… Nicholas said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:38 am PT…

(K)arl Rove will hopefully by indicted!

Dont balloon backcountry needs his Ratings up, they will try anything.

Jeff makes some able points.

COMMENT #30 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:42 am PT…

I’m accommodating to accede annihilation but until somebody can explain breadth the bodies on Flight 77 went and why their broiled charcoal were activate at the Pentagon, I’m gonna acquire to say…A PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON!!

COMMENT #31 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:44 am PT…

Jeff: Who ARE the bodies that were allegedly aboard the pentagon flight. Do you acquire a annual of names???

COMMENT #32 [Permalink]… Jerrod said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:47 am PT…

Man that website allegation be accepting some crazy web traffic, no way their servers can handle it.

COMMENT #33 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:47 am PT…

AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77American Airlines Flight 77, from Washington to Los Angeles, comatose into the Pentagon with 64 bodies aboard.

CREW

Charles Burlingame of Herndon, Virginia, was the plane’s captain. He is survived by a wife, a bairn and a grandson. He had added than 20 years of acquaintance aerial with American Airlines and was a aloft U.S. Agile pilot.

David Charlebois, who lived in Washington’s Dupont Circle neighborhood, was the aboriginal administrator on the flight. “He was handsome and blessed and complete centered,” his acquaintance Travis White, told The Washington Post. “His activity was the affectionate of activity I capital to acquire some day.”

Michele Heidenberger of Chevy Chase, Maryland, was a flight accessory for 30 years. She larboard abaft a husband, a pilot, and a bairn and son.

Flight accessory Jennifer Lewis, 38, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the wife of flight accessory Kenneth Lewis.

Flight accessory Kenneth Lewis, 49, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the bedmate of flight accessory Jennifer Lewis.

Renee May, 39, of Baltimore, Maryland, was a flight attendant.

PASSENGERS

Paul Ambrose, 32, of Washington, was a physician who formed with the U.S. Department of Bloom and Animal Casework and the surgeon accepted to abode ancestral and indigenous disparities in health. A 1995 alum of Marshall University Academy of Medicine, Ambrose aftermost year was declared the Luther Terry Adolescent of the Affiliation of Agents of Preventative Medicine.

Yeneneh Betru, 35, was from Burbank, California.

M.J. Booth

Bernard Brown, 11, was a apprentice at Leckie Elementary Academy in Washington. He was embarking on an educational cruise to the Channel Islands Civic Marine Sanctuary abreast Santa Barbara, California, as allotment of a diplomacy adjourned by the Civic Geographic Society.

Suzanne Calley, 42, of San Martin, California, was an abettor of Cisco Systems Inc.

William Caswell

Sarah Clark, 65, of Columbia, Maryland, was a sixth-grade abecedary at Backus Boilerplate Academy in Washington. She was accompanying a apprentice on an educational cruise to the Channel Islands Civic Marine Sanctuary abreast Santa Barbara, California, as allotment of a diplomacy adjourned by the Civic Geographic Society.

Asia Cottom, 11, was a apprentice at Backus Boilerplate Academy in Washington. Asia was embarking on an educational cruise to the Channel Islands Civic Marine Sanctuary abreast Santa Barbara, California, as allotment of a diplomacy adjourned by the Civic Geographic Society.

James Debeuneure, 58, of Aerial Marlboro, Maryland, was a fifth-grade abecedary at Ketcham Elementary Academy in Washington. He was accompanying a apprentice on an educational cruise to the Channel Islands Civic Marine Sanctuary abreast Santa Barbara, California, as allotment of a diplomacy adjourned by the Civic Geographic Society.

Rodney Dickens, 11, was a apprentice at Leckie Elementary Academy in Washington. He was embarking on an educational cruise to the Channel Islands Civic Marine Sanctuary abreast Santa Barbara, California, as allotment of a diplomacy adjourned by the Civic Geographic Society.

Eddie Dillard

Charles Droz

Barbara Edwards, 58, of Las Vegas, Nevada, was a abecedary at Palo Verde Aerial Academy in Las Vegas.

Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, of University Park, Maryland, was the administrator of assay at ECOlogic Corp., a software engineering firm. He formed on abstracts systems for NASA and additionally developed abstracts systems for the abstraction of all-around and bounded ecology issues. Falkenburg was traveling with his wife, Leslie Whittingham, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3.

Zoe Falkenberg, 8, of University Park, Maryland, was the bairn of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.

Dana Falkenberg, 3, of University Park, Maryland, was the bairn of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.

Joe Ferguson was the administrator of the Civic Geographic Society’s cartography apprenticeship exhausted diplomacy in Washington. He was accompanying a accession of accepting and agents on an educational cruise to the Channel Islands in California. A Mississippi native, he abutting the affiliation in 1987. “Joe Feguson’s final hours at the Geographic acknowledge the abyss of his allegation to one of the things he absolutely loved,” said John Fahey Jr., the society’s president. “Joe was achievement at the appointment until astern Monday atramentous advancing for this trip. It was his ambition to accomplish this cruise complete in every way.”

Wilson “Bud” Flagg of Millwood, Virginia, was a retired Agile admiral and retired American Airlines pilot.

Dee Flagg

Richard Gabriel

Ian Gray, 55, of Washington was the admiral of a health-care consulting firm.

Stanley Hall, 68, was from Rancho Palos Verdes, California.

Bryan Jack, 48, of Alexandria, Virginia, was a arch authoritative at the Aegis Department.

Steven D. “Jake” Jacoby, 43, of Alexandria, Virginia, was the arch operating administrator of Metrocall Inc., a wireless abstracts and messaging company.

Ann Judge, 49, of Virginia was the biking appointment administrator for the Civic Geographic Society. She was accompanying a accession of accepting and agents on an educational cruise to the Channel Islands in California. Affiliation Admiral John Fahey Jr. said one of his fondest memories of Adjudicator is a articulation mail she and a abettor already larboard him while they were rafting the Monkey River in Belize. “This was quintessential Ann — animate activity to the fullest and absent to allotment it with others,” he said.

Chandler Keller, 29, was a Boeing propulsion architect from El Segundo, California.

Yvonne Kennedy

Norma Khan, 45, from Reston, Virginia was a nonprofit alignment manager.

Karen A. Kincaid, 40, was a apostle with the Washington abutting of Wiley Rein & Fielding. She abutting the abutting in 1993 and was allotment of the its telecommunications practice. She was affiliated to Peter Batacan.

Norma Langsteuerle

Dong Lee

Dora Menchaca, 45, of Santa Monica, California, was the accessory administrator of analytic assay for a biotech firm.

Christopher Newton, 38, of Anaheim, California, was admiral and arch authoritative administrator of Work-Life Benefits, a appointment and barometer service. He was affiliated and had two children. Newton was on his way aback to Orange County to retrieve his family’s craven Labrador, who had been larboard abaft until they could accomplish into their new home in Arlington, Virginia.

Barbara Olson, 45, was a bourgeois analyst who about appeared on CNN and was affiliated to U.S. Solicitor Accepted Theodore Olson. She active declared her bedmate as the alike was achievement hijacked and declared some details, including that the attackers were armed with knives. She had planned to booty a adapted flight, but she afflicted it at the aftermost minute so that she could be with her bedmate on his birthday. She formed as an investigator for the Abode Government Reform Lath in the mid-1990s and afterwards formed on the agents of Senate Minority Whip Don Nickles.

Ruben Ornedo, 39, of Los Angeles, California, was a Boeing propulsion engineer.

Robert Penniger, 63, of Poway, California, was an electrical architect with BAE Systems.

Lisa Raines, 42, was arch carnality admiral for government relations at the Washington appointment of Genzyme, a biotechnology firm. She was from Abundant Falls, Virginia, and was affiliated to Stephen Push. She formed with the U.S. Aliment and Drug Administering on developing a new activity administering cellular therapies, arise in 1997. She additionally formed on added aloft health-care legislation.

Todd Reuben, 40, of Potomac, Maryland, was a tax and business lawyer.

John Sammartino

Diane Simmons

George Simmons

Mari-Rae Sopper of Santa Barbara, California, was a women’s gymnastics drillmaster at the University of California at Santa Barbara. She had aloof gotten the cavalcade August 31 and was authoritative the cruise to California to alpha work.

Bob Speisman, 47, was from Irvington, New York.

Hilda Taylor was a sixth-grade abecedary at Leckie Elementary Academy in Washington. She was accompanying a apprentice on an educational cruise to the Channel Islands Civic Marine Sanctuary abreast Santa Barbara, California, as allotment of a diplomacy adjourned by the Civic Geographic Society.

Leonard Taylor was from Reston, Virginia.

Leslie A. Whittington, 45, was from University Park, Maryland. The assistant of accessible activity at Georgetown University in Washington was traveling with her husband, Charles Falkenberg, 45, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3. They were traveling to Los Angeles to bolt a affiliation to Australia. Whittington had been declared a visiting adolescent at Australian Civic University in Canberra.

John Yamnicky, 71, was from Waldorf, Maryland.

Vicki Yancey

Shuyin Yang

Yuguag Zheng

COMMENT #34 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:53 am PT…

CNN aloof aired it. They approved their damndest to acquaint admirers that they were seeing an aircraft hit the building, but in fact, the video showed no plane.

Jamie McIntyre was on duke to acquaint admirers that he was there that day and took pictures of the cockpit, pieces of the alike – etc. – but it was all a lie.

The video showed no plane.

COMMENT #35 [Permalink]… Nicholas said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:54 am PT…

JeffThe believability I acquire consistently had agitation with were: Breadth did the alike & bodies go? Added than that, the official “CONSPIRACY” adventitious by the 9/11 commision stinks of OMMISIONS & COVER UPS Ect ect….Just for fun watch the added accession adaptation of the adventitious alot of it makes MUCH added adroitness that what they appetite us to belive is true:View with articulation below:

http://video.google.com/…362123&q=9/11 reopen

COMMENT #36 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:56 am PT…

I am as cagey of the Backcountry Administering as anyone abroad out there with a analytic apprehension in their arch but to those of you out there who anticipate they would doctor videos to actualization a alike hitting the Pentagon, why wouldn’t they acquire active WMD’s in Iraq if they are so absorbed to lie and accomplish up evidence?

COMMENT #37 [Permalink]… me said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:57 am PT…

“I am as cagey of the Backcountry Administering as anyone abroad out there with a analytic apprehension in their arch but to those of you out there who anticipate they would doctor videos to actualization a alike hitting the Pentagon, why wouldn’t they acquire active WMD’s in Iraq if they are so absorbed to lie and accomplish up evidence?”

Damn…..that’s a adequate question.

COMMENT #38 [Permalink]… Ayaya said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:57 am PT…

I aloof saw the video on BBC Annual 24. It’s affecting and shows annihilation we haven’t aboveboard before. It starts with the admission already underway afresh we see the smoke until it loops about again.

Seriously disappointing.

COMMENT #39 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:00 pm PT…

Raytheon and 9/11

2001-09-11 Stanley Hall Raytheon Administrator of Cyberbanking warfare diplomacy management. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, breadth Backcountry claimed Flight 77 hit it. Abolished on American airlines Flight 77, the one that allegedly hit the Pentagon but did not.

2001-09-11 Peter Gay Raytheon VP of Cyberbanking Systems on adapted appointment at the El Segundo, CA assay appointment breadth the All-around Militarist UAV alien ascendancy arrangement is made. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, breadth Backcountry claimed Flight 77 hit it. Abolished on American airlines Flight 11, the one that allegedly hit the Arctic Angel Trade Belfry I.

2001-09-11 Kenneth Waldie Raytheon Arch Affection Ascendancy for Cyberbanking Systems. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, breadth Backcountry claimed Flight 77 hit it. Abolished on American airlines Flight 11, the one that allegedly hit the Arctic Angel Trade Belfry I.

2001-09-11 David Kovalcin Raytheon Arch Automatic Architect for Cyberbanking Systems. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, breadth Backcountry claimed Flight 77 hit it. Abolished on American airlines Flight 11, the one that allegedly hit the Arctic Angel Trade Belfry I.

2001-09-11 Herbert Homer Raytheon Accumulated Authoritative animate with the Department of Defense. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, breadth Backcountry claimed Flight 77 hit it. Abolished on United airlines Flight 175, the one that allegedly hit the South Angel Trade Belfry II.

These are not abandoned the blazon of bodies but they are the bodies that would be assigned to UAV blazon projects involving Admission 4 and Admission 5 upgrades. Why would they be in Boston and those planes advancing from that administering and from arctic of Manhattan Island?

That 16 basal adit through three rings of the Pentagon is abandoned fabricated by a directional bang weapon. Rumsfeld has alike slipped up and mentioned the missile that hit the Pentagon.

Some acquire aboveboard the Pentagon parking lot camera video and the white aisle of smoke. Jets do now leave white trails of smoke at sea level, but Thiokol powered AGMs do, at all attitudes.

COMMENT #40 [Permalink]… Paul said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:08 pm PT…

I aloof saw the “video” myself, and the CNN anchorman aloof now said commodity that I admiration if anyone abroad caught.

She said it looked as acceptance the alike hit the coffer straight-on. It did not draft the ground; it did not bead from aloft at any affectionate of angle.

We’re talking about aerodynamics a rather abounding allotment of aircraft such that it is able to draft into an breadth aloft the ground, yet not draft the roof. That can’t be added than a 20-30 basal aerial target!

There is no way accession could “pilot” a bartering jetliner to aloof that exact spot. Abnormally not accession who allegedly came from Saudi Arabia and able to fly jets.

He would acquire had to be a “Top Gun” at Miramar to cull off this amazing feat.

And I assure you, Miramar screens applicants bigger than anyone in the world.

COMMENT #41 [Permalink]… Susan said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:15 pm PT…

Jeff,Please accredit to the websitehttp://911research.wtc7….essays/pentagontrap.htmlfor a bigger compassionate of breadth we whackos are advancing from. I don’t apperceive what happened to Flight 77. It allegedly hit the Pentagon. But there absolutely are abounding alteration questions from that day. The bigger catechism for me is the collapse of WTC7. Seehttp://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc7.htmland amuse do watch the accessible videos of the collapse at that link.

This website I am apropos you to absolutely does acquire to acquire the best counterbalanced bend apropos the questions and the inconsistencies. It is adamantine to ask these questions. But to abstain them would be irreprehensible. Ricky’s acknowledgment is like abounding added peoples. I can abandoned acknowledge with “Thou doth beef too much.”

I do appetite to say that analytic the official adaptation of what happened was a bit-by-bit activity for me. There is so abundant applesauce and bamboozlement out there abrasive those who acquire accepted questions. Aloof accredit to the ancestors council lath and they’re questions.

This is a difficult topic. I acquire your skepticism.

COMMENT #42 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:20 pm PT…

I acquire heard a cardinal of times that Valerie Plame Wilson was animate on WMD diplomacy in the Boilerplate East, and a brace of times I heard that she succeeded in endlessly a accession of commodity that was adequate on its way to be the bulb in Iraq.

Their numbers are so low that we can apprehend all abode of acid and abominable things to arise from them now, including assuredly “finding” WMD in Iraq, including adage they’re absolution affidavit of a alike hitting the Pentagon which isn’t affidavit of a alike hitting the Pentagon. They apperceive that aloof SAYING this achievement makes many, abounding bodies acquire it.

Ricky, no typos today, and complete sentences in English. Acquire you been accomplishing your English homework? Adequate boy.

COMMENT #43 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:21 pm PT…

where is the gas abject video, or the auberge video, or the 3 videos from the dept of busline on the highway. if they actualization annihilation afresh why not absolution them. already afresh we are accustomed the minimum advice that had to be acquired through a law suit. anticipate about that……the American bodies had to sue our gov’t aloof to get this basal info. All this video shows me is we will never see any of the complete footage and will aloof acquire to accomplish for the minimum. To acknowledgment what happened to the cartage is to acquire that we anticipate like bodies who would do this. The affidavit of a camouflage is simple. Condoleezza Rice annual of how could we acquire accepted they would use planes as missiles is affidavit abundant for me. If they didnt apperceive it was a achievability why were they accomplishing drills on hijacked planes hitting the pentagon and the wtc’s.

COMMENT #44 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:21 pm PT…

I absolutely anticipate that some bodies would allegation to acquire a agitator absolutely sawing off their arch with a addled decayed knife afore they absolutely absolutely acquire how austere and how bent our adversary is and what affronted they are able of. Of course, by then, such an compassionate will be too late.

IMHO: WTC 7 collaped due to blaze and the structural alternation acquired by the collpase of WTC’s 1 &2.

COMMENT #45 [Permalink]… Charlene said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:28 pm PT…

This is all adequate though.More & added bodies are audition about the accession through this absolution & acquirements aloof how abounding accustomed American citizens acquire there was one.We are adequate in that respect.

COMMENT #46 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:29 pm PT…

The gas abject video is allegedly the best video and the government bedeviled it. Sure, we all appetite to see it to apperceive for abiding it was a alike but who absolutely thinks it’s a astute abstraction to absolution such a video to the angel adventurous a succesfull advanced by Arab terrorists on the aggressive abode of the United States of America?

Maybe anytime in the abutting it will be OK to absolution the video but not while we are at war with these scumbags should we absolution a video adventurous their greatest achievement.

Think about it.

COMMENT #47 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:29 pm PT…

Nobody he sees the government’s video can candidly affirmation that the “See” an aircraft. NOBODY.

That’s a missile advancing in at grasstop level.

COMMENT #48 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:32 pm PT…

Plunger,If its a missile, who accursed it and from where?

Also, breadth are the bodies who were on Flight 77?

COMMENT #49 [Permalink]… Charlene said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:34 pm PT…

(Tyson Slocum is on Colbert tonight. He’ll stick it to big oil!)

COMMENT #50 [Permalink]… Nicholas said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:38 pm PT…

COMMENT #51 [Permalink]… MarkH said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:39 pm PT…

Personally I anticipate somebody’s pet butt rammed into the Pentagon. At diminutive that explains why there was no draft of an aeroplane activate there. And, it’s at diminutive as reasonable as added explanations we’ve heard.

With Dubya in appointment we’ll acquisition all the accommodation of 9/11 as afresh a we acquisition all the accommodation of the Kennedy assassination.

COMMENT #52 [Permalink]… Nicholas said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:40 pm PT…

COMMENT #53 [Permalink]… loretta said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:41 pm PT…

They could calmly braid calm authentic video advanced from the Sheraton, the parking lot, the gas station, the highway, and put calm a adequate 15 – 20 minute affirmation that was authentic to 90% of any viewers, agnostic or not.

That they did not do that and threw us this instead speaks VOLUMES.

Anyone with any agnosticism larboard that 9/11 was an axial job is acutely constitutionally butterfingers of accepting reality.

What happened to the complete Flight 77? Because that the aggressive jets were beatific 150 afar out to the ocean afore they affronted about and headed west to “intercept” Flights 77 and 93, it’s absolutely accessible the complete Flight 77 was advanced bottomward over the ocean.

Just like Flight 93 was advanced bottomward over PA.

Keep it simple. You don’t allegation UFOs.

COMMENT #54 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:42 pm PT…

Jeff, the Backcountry administering has aria about so abounding things, and so consistently, that its believability is forfeit. The affair isn’t how abominably a accustomed agitator hates the United States (most of the bodies who abhorrence us are not terrorists, in fact), as you suggest. It’s “Why doesn’t the official annual we’ve been accustomed bout the authentic evidence?”

A Boeing jetliner crashes into the Pentagon aloof aloft arena level, piloted by accession who never flew such a alike before, makes complete acquaintance but leaves a 12-foot crater? Accompanying architectonics collapse in New York from draft abreast the top, which we’re told by engineers has never happened afore (heat rises), and a adjoining belfry collapses afterwards achievement hit. It doesn’t accomplish sense, and accustomed that the Backcountry administering acclimated this adventitious as breadth for advancing a country it had already planned to admission (but afterwards a accessible excuse), who can allegation anyone for achievement skeptical? It stinks to aerial heaven, and that’s a fact, Jeff.

By framing the affair in “How abominable are these terrorists?” terms, you artlessly acknowledgment the Backcountry administration’s altercation for advancing Iraq. “We’re at war (no we aren’t),” “The adversary hates us (we didn’t advanced that enemy),” so, “Let’s put commonsense and advantageous skepticism on the shelf and go annihilate added bodies declared Ahmad and Muhammad, because they appetite to annihilate us.”

Oh, and don’t catechism annihilation we do, alike achievement that’s adjoin the law, because we’re absorption you and we apperceive best.

COMMENT #55 [Permalink]… Plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:43 pm PT…

Jeff:

Your government aloof arise a video bandage adventurous a Thiokol Missile aerial aloof inches off the accouter on a altogether accumbent aisle into the Pentagon.

Do you affirm that your eyes saw that?

COMMENT #56 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:45 pm PT…

i not abandoned anticipate it’s wise. i anticipate it is an obligation. how can absolution this be any adapted from absolution an bend that absolutely actualization us something. it all tells the aforementioned story. Jeff i am activated that you are gluttonous answers, thats what got me started in my search. now it appears to me to be accessible that commodity abundant aloft happened on 9/11. you should search: probabilitites of corpuscle buzz calls achievement fabricated from a alike at 30,000ft, 9/11 eyewitness.com, PNAC group/ the admirable chessboard, put options on airline stocks, the hijackers who are still alive, sibel edmonds…etc. I dont absolutely apperceive what happened on 9/11 but i do apperceive there has been cosistent cover-up. Oh yeah breadth is osama bin laden. If we were to abduction him, the American peolple would be annoyed and say let’s end this war. So with him “on the loose” they can acquire their new american century. as affiliated as bin burdened isnt bent we all acquire a accepted enemy.

COMMENT #57 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:47 pm PT…

Jeff:

How did 4 planes vaporize on one day, and 3 skyscrapers abatement demolition-style in one day, and never afore and never since? Did you assay out assistant Steve Jones writings, the physics assistant from BYU?

Sure, you acquire one or two questions we can’t answer, but we acquire over 100 questions.

COMMENT #58 [Permalink]… Susan said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:49 pm PT…

I don’t apperceive how ANYONE can candidly acquire that “fire and structural instability” acquired WTC7 to collapse. Alike the 911 Bureau knew bigger than to try to abutment that claim. They didn’t alike draft on it in their investigation.

BYU physics assistant Dr. Steven Jones appealing abundant debunks that able blaze and alternation nonsense.

In case you’re interested. Assay outhttp://www.physics.byu.e…esearch/energy/htm7.htmlQuite bluntly though, it is allegedly a decay of my time to alike cavalcade these links. Some bodies aloof aren’t accessible to go there.

Personally, I anticipate WTC7 is our blooming ambit of today. The abutting abode will be able to assay the affirmation abundant added dispassionately. I anticipate it aloof hurts too abundant adapted now for best people. Too bad though. Understandable, but too bad.

COMMENT #59 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:49 pm PT…

Anyone larboard still accommodating to append the laws of physics to acquire the official bandage about 9/11 should absolutely use this link. It has added than abundant complete advice and apprehensible questions to assure anyone who wants to apprentice the accurateness can.

Scholars for 9/11 Truth

COMMENT #60 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:50 pm PT…

Popular Mechanics:

http://www.libertypost.o…readart.cgi?ArtNum=86989

Popular Mechanics annual allegedly didn’t anguish about the ethical considerations of hiring a accessory of Michael Chertoff, a aloft Assistant Attorney Accepted and the new Secretary of the Department of Citizenry Aegis (DHS), as arch researcher.

But the Advanced 2005 affair of Accepted Mechanics (PM) plumbs new abject of bribery and Hearst-style “yellow journalism” with its awning adventitious about 9/11. PM’s arch researcher, 25-year-old Benjamin Chertoff, authored a propagandistic awning adventitious advantaged “Debunking 9/11 Lies” which seeks to discredit all complete 9/11 assay that challenges the official adaptation of events.

DOV ZAKHEIM:

The CEO of Systems Planning’s all-embracing division, Dov Zakheim, is a adept DoD and Republican Affair insider, and a founding affiliate of the Neoconservative cult. While Backcountry was still Governor of Texas, Zakheim became one of his abutting advisers, counseling him on aegis technology and cardinal aspects of Boilerplate Eastern affairs. Afterwards the 2000 “election,” Rummy adored Zakheim with a humble but strategically important position — Comptroller, i.e. arch money man, of the Aegis Department.

Zakheim additionally co-authored the Heritage Foundation’s abominable tract, “Rebuilding America’s Defenses,” in which the Backcountry Administration’s complete architectonics for renewed all-around acquisition was laid bottomward a abounding year above-mentioned to 9-11. On folio 63, the authors calendar that adapted accomplishing of their annual would crave “some adverse and catalyzing draft — like a new Pearl Harbor.”

see for yourself:

http://www.newamericance…dingAmericasDefenses.pdf

Dov S. Zakheim was affidavit in as the Beneath Secretary of Aegis (Comptroller) and Arch Banking Administrator for the Department of Aegis on May 4, 2001.

Left the Backcountry Administering in mid-2004 for Booz Allen.

How Does Zakheim Fit In ?

He helped casting the Mid-East policy, and controlled the Pentagon purse strings.

Thanks to him, Israel, and their militia (Turkey), are abounding in F-15’s, F-16’s, and the latest in abhorrent and arresting missile systems. Israel has a amplitude program, ICBM’s, nukes, and lots more.

Zakheim, who is a bifold Israeli/American aborigine and a Shul Rabbi, has stalked the halls of US government for 25 yrs. He has set aegis activity which afflicted Presidents Reagan, Clinton and Backcountry Sr. and Jr. This berserk Zionist was the ambassador of the Pentagon aback an assay aboveboard over a abundance dollars was missing.

Most of Israel’s ammunition was acquired acknowledgment to him. Squads of US F-16 and F-15 were classified as aggressive surplus and abounding to Israel at a atom of their value.

Zakheim is a berserk Zionist, who carries an Israel allotment and is advised to be one of the top associates of the backstairs Illuminati . He predicts 9/11 and by arduous accompaniment the Pentagon is hit by a alien controlled jet (Zakheim’s ‘ SPC ‘ affiliation is the arch aggregation in the field).

http://www.sysplan.com/Radar/FTS

During his administering as ambassador at the Pentagon from May 4, 2001 to Advanced 10, 2004, over one abundance dollars was unaccounted for.

Military advice is jeopardized, aggressive contractors billed the US for Israeli items, $50 amateur fighter jets are classified as surplus and the annual goes on and on. As the aspersion of the missing 3 abundance dollars surfaces the Rabbi bound resigns.

Here’s how it all came together:

http://www.informationcl…se.info/article11385.htm

Here’s why:

On the day of the 9-11 attacks, aloft Israeli Prime Abbot Benjamin Netanyahu was asked what the advanced would beggarly for US-Israeli relations. His quick acknowledgment was: “It’s complete good��.Well, it’s not good, but it will accomplish complete accord (for Israel)”

AND LESS THAN ONE MONTH LATER:

On October 3, 2001, I.A.P. Annual arise that according to Israel Radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael an acerbic altercation erupted during the Israeli chiffonier annual affair aftermost anniversary amid Israeli Prime Abbot Ariel Sharon and his adopted Abbot Shimon Peres. Peres warned Sharon that abnegation to heed ceaseless American requests for a accord with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and “turn the US adjoin us. “Sharon reportedly yelled at Peres, adage “don’t anguish about American pressure, we the Jewish bodies ascendancy America.”

COMMENT #61 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:52 pm PT…

I’ll assay out the videos but I’ve spent affluence of time aback 9/11 attractive at that affectionate of stuff.

To anyone who still doesn’t acquire why the government can’t absolution the “good” video, see cavalcade #46 and anticipate about it.

Then anticipate again.

COMMENT #62 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:53 pm PT…

Jeff said:

“IMHO: WTC 7 collaped due to blaze and the structural alternation acquired by the collpase of WTC’s 1 &2.”

The seismic shock from the architectonics falling was commodity like 2.5 on the Richter scale. (There are of advanced theories that those were in achievement explosions, but that is a able added topic). Achievement on the west coffer we acquire those magnatude all-overs daily. Typicaly they aren’t alike felt. It takes at diminutive a 3.5 or 4.0 – 10-15 times as able – afore you feel the arena shake.

WTC 7 absolutely wasn’t compromised by the architectonics falling.

The blaze was abundantly centralized in the building, so if it did in achievement annual a collapse (which has never afore happened in a animate anatomy soley from fire) the centermost of the architectonics would acquire collapsed.

Watch the video recommended to you and you will see that at aboriginal the axial allocation drops hardly – abundant to annual the end walls to bend in hardly and afresh the able affair goes bottomward in unison.

That is absolutely how they plan it to arise aback the “pull” a architectonics through the use of explosives. It keeps the end walls from falling aboveboard and insures the able affair drops into its own footprint.

I’m sorry, but adapted now I don’t acquire time to acquisition you links, but chase for controlled annihilation and watch the videos of able companies abolition assorted buildings. You will afresh see a arrangement which is afresh in the collapse of WTC7.

COMMENT #63 [Permalink]… Mike J. said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:55 pm PT…

Jeff’s catechism is a adequate one. None of you acquire answered that yet. I acquire why you appetite to acquire your theories: You abhorrence Pres.Bush and his Administration. Accordingly annihilation you can arise up with adjoin him is adequate for you.

I acquire apprehension afore about why we don’t see abundant of the alike at the bang armpit of the Pentagon. But I’m not a aerodynamics able and I don’t anticipate abounding achievement are either. Conceivably the air-conditioned acceleration of the alike on appulse put the aircraft panels into absolutely babyish pieces. Or conceivably the aircraft absolutely went into the Pentagon architectonics and was covered by the building’s pieces as what happened to the planes that hit the WTC towers. Those two planes, absolutely loaded with ammunition for the affiliated flight to California, absolutely abolished into the buildings.

But WE (you all and I) don’t absolutely apperceive for sure.

The achievement is that the abandoned bodies who apperceive for abiding are the bodies who went into the charcoal of that allotment of the Pentagon and removed the bodies and aeroplane parts. Ask them. Get them on TV. Get them on the record. Get your Senators and US Representatives to acquire them at hearings in the Capitol.

That’s the abandoned way to apperceive for sure.

COMMENT #64 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:56 pm PT…

Post 46?

Uh, there are affluence of videos of purportedly hijacked aircraft arresting the WTC.

The argumentation of cavalcade #46 does not ascendancy up.

The government today arise a video bandage of a missile arresting the Pentagon.

Period.

COMMENT #65 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:58 pm PT…

To anyone who anticipate that US aggressive jets advanced bottomward any hijacked planes on 9/11: You are BEYOND advice and I feel bad for you.

9/11 is complete adamantine to accept. I apperceive how that goes but to advanced that Flight 77 was advanced bottomward over the ocean goes aloft the pale.

COMMENT #66 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:00 pm PT…

Mike J: How about answering some of OUR questions?

Why were planes aerial about for a huge bulk of time, and not intercepted per NORAD requirements?

How did 3 skyscrapers abatement “free-fall” on the aforementioned day, due to jet ammunition calefaction which isn’t aerial enought to cook steel, and never happened afore or since?

How did 4 planes vaporize on one day, never before, never since?

Why won’t the Pentagon absolution the video’s of the Pentagon they confiscated from the adjascent auberge & gas station, and why are the assemblage of these video’s beneath gag order?

How did they acquisition a hijacker’s ID intact, in a abode that was allegedly so hot it broiled steel?

Why was there aqueous animate at the abject of the WTC, and cloudburst out the carelessness afore they fell?

These are aloof a few questions, can you acknowledgment them?

COMMENT #67 [Permalink]… Susan said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:02 pm PT…

The botheration with cavalcade #46 is that we all saw the planes aerial into the WTC. We witnessed the adverse deaths of hundreds of bodies and the agitated chase by admired ones. Adventurous the alike arresting the Pentagon is commodity I anticipate we all acquire a adapted to see. The Pentagon is declared to be impenetrable. That’s what we had consistently heard. Conceivably they don’t appetite to actualization how accessible we are. But at diminutive actualization stills from added angles that were confiscated. Commodity isn’t adapted with the official story. I don’t apperceive what happened, but I acquisition it adamantine to acquire your antecedent that a agitator wannabe aloof needs to watch a chapped video of an aeroplane arresting the Pentagon to become proactive in their cause. Bottomward bombs on innocent bodies they apperceive and adulation may get them a little affronted though.

COMMENT #68 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:03 pm PT…

i would adulation to get them on tv but they arent “allowed” to allocution to anyone due to gag orders. i dont abhorrence george backcountry in achievement adapted afterwards the attacks aback he stood on the bits and saif the bodies who agape bottomward the barrio will apprehend all of us soon, i f’n started crying. George Backcountry was like an bulk at that moment. i acquire animate every abode and beatific abounding emails requesting a complete investigation. the 9/11 commision abode is complete BS and if you acquire it you will never see any added point. Aloof bethink i saw a poll on cnn that said 9% of Americans acquire the mission in iraq is accomplished. Some bodies will acquire whatever is spoonfed to them no bulk what.

COMMENT #69 [Permalink]… Adjudicator of Lath said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:03 pm PT…

I still anticipate Barbara Starr was already a man . . . . . not that I acquire a botheration with that . . . Aloof an observation.

COMMENT #70 [Permalink]… Dredd said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:05 pm PT…

Conspiracy theories are not aloof for the government anymore.

The accession admission that the 9/11 bureau advances is adequate abundant for many, but not for all.

But that authentic accession admission that the 9/11 bureau put out has not convinced:

“Scholars for 9/11 Truth” (S9/11T) is a non-partisan affiliation of faculty, students, and scholars, in fields as assorted as history, science, aggressive affairs, psychology, and philosophy, committed to advertisement falsehoods and to complete truths abaft 9/11″ (link here, adventurous added).

Click on “Who are we” at the aloft articulation to see an absorbing annual of folk who are accepting this answerable bulk intensely.

I say fair is fair, if the government has a accession theory, afresh why not let advisers and scientists acquire a accession admission too?

COMMENT #71 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:05 pm PT…

Post 46?”Uh, there are affluence of videos of purportedly hijacked aircraft arresting the WTC.

The argumentation of cavalcade #46 does not ascendancy up.

The government today arise a video bandage of a missile arresting the Pentagon.

Period.”

Plunger,

Only by adventitious did those French brothers abduction the aboriginal WTC bang and of course, afterwards that abounding cameras bent the added strike. That is what the terrorists wanted, our media to abduction their affronted accomplishments and affectation it to the world.

The gas abject video allegedly shows complete acutely accession hijacked alike hitting the Pentagon. As I said, no way in hell such a video should be arise now aloof to amuse the accession nuts.

The accession basics appetite EXACTLY what the terrorists appetite which is for the angel to see a succesfull Arab agitator advanced on the aggressive abode of the United States of America.

Not a adequate idea.

COMMENT #72 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:06 pm PT…

1. Why didn’t jets ambush the airliners aback they had abundant warnings of agitator attacks?

2. Why did Ashcroft stop aerial bartering airlines, citation an anonymous “threat” in July 2001?

3. Why did FEMA lie about their attendance in New York on 9/11?

4. Why didn’t the Abstruse Annual hustle Dubya out of the classroom?

5. Why did George H.W. Backcountry accommodated bin Laden’s brother on 9/11?

6. Why did cartage or crewmembers on three of the flights all use the appellation boxcutters?

7. Breadth are the flight recorders?

8. Why were the FISA warrants discontinued?

9. How did Backcountry see the aboriginal alike bang on animate camera?

10 Why was aegis affair appointed for 9/11 annulled by WTC administering on 9/10?

11. How did they arise up with the “culprits” so quickly?

12. How did they acquisition the terrorist’s cars at the airports so quickly?

13. Why did Shrub deliquesce the Bin Burdened Appointment Force?

14. Why the aberrant arrangement of bits from Flight 93?

15. How all-encompassing was the accord amid the Taliban, the ISI and the CIA?

16. What absolutely was the role of Henry Kissinger at UNOCAL?

17. Aback was it absitively to abolish architectonics a activity from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan to Pakistan?

18. Why did the FBI in 1996 abutting the files to investigate Osama bin Laden’s ancestors in Washington?

19. Why did .Bush stop inquiries into agitator admission of the Bin Burdened ancestors in aboriginal 2001?

20. Who fabricated the accommodation to acquire John O’Neill stop investigating Al-qeada accounts?

21. Who gave the accommodation to accord him a aegis job at the Angel Trade Center?

22. Did John O’Neill accommodated anyone of the FEMA in the night of September 10th?

23. What about media belletrist that hijackers bought tickets for flights appointed afterwards Sept. 11?

24. Why did none of the 19 hijackers arise on the commuter lists?

25. Why would adherent Muslims accepted bars, alcohol alcoholic beverages and leave their bibles?

26. Why would the hijackers use acclaim cards and acquiesce drivers licenses with photos to be zeroxed?

27. Why did the hijackers force cartage to anxiety relatives?

28. How did the hijackers change the flight plan afterwards law administering or the aggressive try to stop them?

29. How did a hijackers allotment miraculously arise abreast the WTC? Who activate it and what time?

30. How could the FBI assay amid “regular” Muslims and brigand Muslims on those flights?

31. Why was there not one “innocent” Muslim on lath any of these flights?

32. Did accession go through the commuter lists attractive for Muslim names and characterization them as hijackers?

COMMENT #73 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:12 pm PT…

It’s a bribery adequate affair that the WTC strikes were bent on video or I can aloof brainstorm how bodies would be adage no planes hit the WTC.

Our adversary allegation adulation all of this.

COMMENT #74 [Permalink]… Ada said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:15 pm PT…

Can you say FX? Brainstorm this could not be arise because of the trail, yet all the films of the planes activity into the architectonics didn’t matter?

Again can you say FX? Oh apologetic they say it’s a little grainy, maybe so you can’t acquaint the cut ins..What about the bandage from the gas station…oh it hasn’t been FX’d yet, advancing to you soon!

Impeach and bastille the authentic 9-11 abyss Backcountry and company! All of them!

COMMENT #75 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:15 pm PT…

Jeff you are actively abnormal in logic. theres no secret, the angel knows they all saw a alike hit the wtc, and heard the accepting of all 4 planes. absolution videos to actualization the appulse makes no aberration to terrorists. your use of “conspiracy nuts” aloof proves breadth your argumentation comes from. anticipate about it. the byword conspriacy admission represents “nuts” to you. A accession admission doesnt represent “nuts”, it represent accession point of view. I anticipate that accession who aloof resisits an alternating point of actualization is administering the aforementioned point of actualization as the bodies you are calling scumbags. you apperceive the gov’t will lie to you, so aloof dont acquire it aback theres no affidavit to what they are saying. and the affidavit they acquire they are abnegation to release. I would adulation to see a jet on the pentagon footage. BVelieve me I dont appetite to acquire that my gov’t would do commodity like this. But the administering refuses to altercate it because “we are at war.” the war we are at has been created by our gov’t. so they created commodity to adumbrate behindyou anticipate about it….

COMMENT #76 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:23 pm PT…

Today’s abode with their abbreviate absorption spans and their misgiuded skepticism acquire no abstraction what it bureau to be at war.

It bureau (among abounding added things) that if we acquire a video adventurous our adversary abolition a hijacked US bartering aeroplane into the aggressive abode of out country, we don’t absolution it for the angel to see.

COMMENT #77 [Permalink]… Grizzly Buck Dancer said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:24 pm PT…

Thank you animadversion #54: Abutting affair you apperceive the Republidem affair is gonna acquire that they acquire produced a affiliation absorbed to deposit ammunition that is antibacterial our brittle angel ambiance for the annual of the who..the interests of the oil elite. We allegation get rid of about all electable positions in Washington and alpha animate calm in the ecology authentic affiliation to stop the irreparable draft of animal bribery and abating acquired by afire deposit fuels which are melting the glaciers. The aftereffect will be added Agitated hurricanes, abridgement of food, added disease, alpha baptize contagion and massive bread EXTINCTIONS AND HUMAN DEATHS CAUSED BY CLIMATES WHICH PRODUCE NO MORE RAIN IN AREAS OF THE WORLD. The added affirmation to be provided to investigate THE TRUTH IS WELCOME as adjoin to the BUSHIT VERSION of anything. Is authoritative our elections accepted a affair of the the Republidems..NO!!! It is not allotment of their reality. The U.S. PEOPLE ARE VICTIMS OF FRAUD IN THE LAST 2 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS and all abutting elections as affiliated as cyberbanking computer machines are acclimated and abyss abacus the votes afterwards a verifyable acclamation aisle ARE AT RISK. Did they at diminutive change the date on the basal to the 11th on the new video release? Able abode so far.

COMMENT #78 [Permalink]… Susan said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:27 pm PT…

“Our adversary allegation adulation all of this.”

Dude, you acquire already absent the battle. In your angel we’re not to catechism any of the official adaptation of what happened that day annual the terrorists allegation adulation it so abundant aback we do. Aloof emboldens the applesauce out of em.Seems to me you allegation apperceive those terrorists absolutely anxiously to acquire what they adulation and don’t love.

COMMENT #79 [Permalink]… Grizzly Buck Dancer said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:27 pm PT…

Comment #77: about-face – All in electable positions

COMMENT #80 [Permalink]… Ada said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:29 pm PT…

“COMMENT #44 [link]…Jeff said on 5/16/2006 @ 12:21pm PT…

I absolutely anticipate that some bodies would allegation to acquire a agitator absolutely sawing off their arch with a addled decayed knife afore they absolutely absolutely acquire how austere and how bent our adversary is and what affronted they are able of. Of course, by then, such an compassionate will be too late.

IMHO: WTC 7 collaped due to blaze and the structural alternation acquired by the collpase of WTC’s 1 &2. “

Oh yes we acquire our adversary his name is Backcountry and we acquire he and his cohorts are able of all levels of evil!

As for WTC 7 your wrong! The basal blaze there would never acquire brought a buildng down, aloof as jet ammunition alike a abounding catchbasin will not broil hotter than 1200 degrees and it takes 3000 to cook steel!The added infront of you that atrosities are committed the diminutive adequate all will acquire them, that’s thier MO and it formed on affiliation like you.

COMMENT #81 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:30 pm PT…

“Dude, you acquire already absent the battle. In your angel we’re not to catechism any of the official adaptation of what happened that day annual the terrorists allegation adulation it so abundant aback we do. Aloof emboldens the applesauce out of em.Seems to me you allegation apperceive those terrorists absolutely anxiously to acquire what they adulation and don’t love.”

As a Aggressive Veteran, I can at diminutive say that I acquire fought the activity and advised the mindset our our enemy. You are chargeless to catechism annihilation you like and I am chargeless to anxiety you crazy if I so choose. Carelessness of accent goes two way, abundance and yours.

COMMENT #82 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:35 pm PT…

COMMENT #83 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:37 pm PT…

When my toilet is abounding of shit, I use a Plunger.

COMMENT #84 [Permalink]… Adjudicator of Lath said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:38 pm PT…

Just as I apprehension . . . . . the republican & cons are added absorbed in Bill Clinton’s aisle . . .

COMMENT #85 [Permalink]… Unconvinced said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:39 pm PT…

AOL.COM IS SHOWING THE VIDEO RIGHT NOW!!! It is on their homepage.

That “plane” looks complete babyish compared to the architectonics itself. Also, I acquire never aboveboard a alike acreage at that acceleration absolutely alongside to the ground. I can’t see what this video proves. It looks like the aforementioned footage that was in “Loose Change”. The alike is aloof way too babyish to be a bartering airliner. Also, in that CNN video acquaint above…where are the plane’s wings???

COMMENT #86 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:39 pm PT…

you acquire advised the mindset of the adversary as you were told what the mindset was. Im abandoned adventurous that you didnt acquire any complete dialouge with the enemy.

not abandoned was wtc 7 minimal, how about the aperture that was larboard by the alike in the 1st attack. bodies were continuing in that aperture annual afterwards the explosion. yeah thats a austere inferno. Firefighters said there was abandoned a brace pockets of blaze and should calmly be controlled. Backcountry said he saw the 1st bang on TV and said to himself “now thats one bad pilot. Must’ve had a affection attack” Are you f’n serious? the wtc the mecca for a terroist bang gets hit (and they were accomplishing contest on hijacked planes hitting the wtc) and our administrator in arch says to himself “must’ve had a affection attack” i dont anticipate of W as an bookish guy, but thats an air-conditioned comment. So i ask the question: Did W see the 1st alike hit, 3 canicule above-mentioned to the absolution of the video? He additionally said the aforementioned affair 30 canicule afterwards in a speech. So if he saw it afresh he saw it from video we arent accustomed to see. If he didnt dee it afresh he lied, and if he’d lie about that why wouldnt he lie about the able thing?

COMMENT #87 [Permalink]… txgirl said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:40 pm PT…

It is accessible to pilot a low aerial aeroplane into a bunched ambition afterwards affecting the grass. Tens of accoutrements of airline pilots do it everyday, except they acquire the added accountability of befitting the alike and cartage complete aback they draft down.

Depending aloft the acceding and structural candor of a building, it is not abnormal for the wings of a alike to bend in — alike an airliner. Simple physics dictates that aback the structurally weaker complete impacts the structurally stronger material, the weaker complete will give. The Pentagon Architectonics performed as designed, with the draft complete to abandoned one section.

At aerial abundant temperatures, annihilation can be incinerated. Aback the force of an admission is contained, the activity arise basically has boilerplate to go (beyond draft waves); ascendancy increases the force of the admission aural the complete area, added adventitious to incineration temperatures.

There is annihilation larboard of the cartage or best of the alike because they were finer cremated.

While I wouldn’t put it able BushCo to do commodity as affronted as this, the are too abounding analytic holes — such as breadth was the missile accursed from, afterwards a abounding cardinal of bodies seeing it in preparation? Breadth did the alike and cartage go? It is acute to catechism aggregate this administering does (or any admin, for that matter), but in this authentic case the abridgement of authentic affirmation does not conterbalance the authentic and physics evidence. Occam’s Razor would acquire to administer here, IMHO.

What is absolutely abstruse is why BushCo has kept these photos beneath wraps. They are acutely absorbed to secrecy; they’re re-classifying abstracts (secretly, ‘natch) that acquire been declassified, some accessible for decades, others advertisement nationa-f**kin’-wide already. That’s some absurd batty sh*t.

It is added believable to me that the timing of the absolution of photos can be benign to a prez whose appraisement acquire biconcave into the 20’s. Conceivably we will afresh be seeing added ‘9/11 photos as Acclamation Day draws near. In case we all “forgot” 9/11, as the repugs like to barf on abhorrence TV.

As if.

COMMENT #88 [Permalink]… David Edwards said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:41 pm PT…

How adequate will this angel be to 911 accurateness advocates?

COMMENT #89 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:43 pm PT…

Note that aloft – in the anew provided still frames which were advertisement on MSNBC, anniversary of the two benumb frames acutely actualization the acme of copse behing the MISSILE.

The camera that this angel is advanced from is no added than 6′ off the ground. A 757 would acquire absolutely block the actualization of the treetops in the background, alike if it had been auto bottomward and anchored on the lawn.

These images are affidavit that a missile addled the Pentagon.

Use your eyes. Use your mind.

A 757 accession is at diminutive 20 all-overs alpine – and the appendage is afterpiece to 40′

Do you see it?

No you don’t.

COMMENT #90 [Permalink]… Grizzly Buck Dancer said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:43 pm PT…

Irrefutable evidence..i don’t anticipate so. We acquire so little time to change our bureau from the constancy of auctioning massive amounts of HUMAN bribery antibacterial the brittle angel environment. We can get rid of these also-ran bent bastards abandoned cocky bedfast to themselves and appointment calm to SAVE THE WORLD. TIME OUT!

COMMENT #91 [Permalink]… PetGoat said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:44 pm PT…

Where’s the plane? Maybe somebody flew it into thesea. What’s so difficult about that?

According to the official story, it abolished from radarabout 9:00 and cipher knew breadth it was until justbefore it hit the Pentagon.

COMMENT #92 [Permalink]… pauline said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:45 pm PT…

Jeff:

re: animadversion 33 —

With your absurd googling of Flight 77’s commuter list, didn’t you balloon commodity complete important??

Where is the 19-year-old Arab pilot’s name that the admiral affirmation commandeered this flight (his flight instructor, btw, said this 19-year-old couldn’t fly a distinct abettor plane) and approached the Pentagon by authoritative a 270 bulk about-face (not at all accessible for an able commerical pilot), aerial this alike absolutely a few all-overs off the arena for the aftermost several hundred all-overs and not abominably messing up the Pentalawn or windows or spools of cable alfresco abreast the bang entrance, authoritative no noticable babble while achievement abandoned a few all-overs off the arena (well, except for the “official” 9/11 bureau including the comments of Bobby Eberle, the Texas Repub who fronted Jeff Gannon who miraculously said he – Eberle, both saw and heard Flight 77), and, breadth are the abounding alike parts, the wings, the seats, the luggage, the anatomy genitalia and the aroma of claret (which no emt core reported) from all these passengers??

When the admiral were sued beneath FOIA for the Flight 77 commuter list, assumption what, Jeff, there were no Arab names on that list!! Oh, assay your googled annual and amuse point them out. Oh, and it allegation be a admirable accession of castigation for me to anticipate that the flight associates didn’t apprehension that the declared Arabs who were on Flight 77 somehow were too animate to apprehension the names and faces on this flight somehow didn’t match.

Jeff, are you diplomacy acclimated cars or swamp acreage in Florida these days?!?

COMMENT #93 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:46 pm PT…

The video arise today sucks. It’s adamantine to acquaint what you’re seeing. Some adeptness see a missile. Some adeptness see a plane.

Some adeptness see their abhorrence for Admiral Bush. Others may see their abhorrence for our agitator enemies, you know… the ones who did this…

Whatever you see, I’ll see you all later. Nice chattin.

It’s time to go home!

COMMENT #94 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:48 pm PT…

No annual for the adventitious of the Dancing Israelis, Jeff?

The trolls consistently abscond aback confronted with authentic facts.

COMMENT #95 [Permalink]… insidejob forsure said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:50 pm PT…

Occam’s Razor:One should not increase, aloft what is necessary, the cardinal of entities adapted to explain anything

1) 757, aureate by an amateur2) 500mph… Aloof all-overs off of the ground3) Best heavily committed airspace in the World4) Not intercepted5) AFTER the WTC already attacked6) Hits the abandoned allotment of the pentagon that is fortified7) No ablaze becloud anytime shown8) 16′ annular aperture through 3 alien rings9) No draft to windows about hole10) No aeroplane genitalia – as per 1st report: Fox News

Quite bluntly its a abundant easier appointment to advanced how the bodies could acquire been “found” in the Pentagon, than to acknowledgment how a 100 basal jet with 42 basal aerial appendage breadth & 100 ft wingspan could carelessness into a 16′ hole!

You are either complete assertive or you’re a liar, a traitor and an adversary of REAL Americans!

COMMENT #96 [Permalink]… Susan said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:50 pm PT…

TXGIRL, You accomplish some adequate points. I aloof ambition that I could get a adequate explantion apropos the annoyed of the WTC barrio that day. Paticularly the way they fell. Abnormally WTC7. The ol’ pancaking admission has appealing abundant been advanced to hell. No way that happened. Also, why didn’t any animate aeon aback our aggressive bootless to ambush those flights? It’s inexcusable.

COMMENT #97 [Permalink]… Unconvinced said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:51 pm PT…

Now I am confused. The still shots on Brad Blog from MSNBC do not arise to actualization the aforementioned “plane” that is aboveboard on the Video that AOL is claiming is the one put out by the Pentagon. What is up with that? The MSNBC looks abundant added like a plane. The commodity in the AOL video is white, abundant smaller, and looks added like a missle. Anyone got a clue as to what is up with this?

COMMENT #98 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 1:54 pm PT…

not abandoned did he fly the alike like an expert, he had to bend it to absence the adjoining argosy architectonics afterwards the alike activity a little up or down. photos from the 1st blaze abettor on the arena (10 min abroad already responding to a car fire) shows no draft but annual afterwards the Pentalawn is covered. a commuter annual should acquire been the easiest thing. whether they acclimated aliases or not, the name still would be on the computer. and havent there been a few adapted versions of all the commuter lists.

COMMENT #99 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:00 pm PT…

“After the Pentagon attack, the video cameras and tapes at a adjacent CITGO, the Sheraton Auberge alternating I-395 and Virginia DOT cameras were all confiscated by the FBI and they acquire yet to acknowledge any of the accommodation that were recorded by those cameras. Those cameras would acquire recorded what came in to hit the Pentagon and if beheld by the public, all the angel would apperceive that it was not a Boeing 757, American Airlines Flight 77, as we were told. All the angel would apperceive that Bush’s affirmation is in achievement a huge lie. They cannot acknowledge those tapes afterwards indicting themselves that it was the U.S. government and baddest “private breadth outsourcing” that did the declared agitator attacks of 9-11. In short, our government would acquire to acquire that it is al Qaeda and that this GWOT (Global War on Terror) is antiquity fabricated up to accommodate excuses for a abject U.S. activity and war policy.”

There is the “mystery part” and no, it is not allotment of a 757 jet abettor and never has been. Oops!

They are all jet abettor apparatus (past and present) on the A-3 Skywarrior twin-turbojet aeroplane and on advanced versions of the 737. The USAF abandoned has a few of the A-3s larboard in operation and what was aforetime Hughes Aircraft, now Raytheon, has a agile of them at Van Nuys, Calif. This blazon of turbojet abettor has never been acclimated on a Boeing 757, so the agitation on “type of plane” can end there. This is a jet abettor basal with fan, not an abetting adeptness assemblage (APU) as some acquire speculated or abandoned into the chat as disinformation.

What has been absorbing is the affiliated of “content blocking” that there is on the Internet breadth specific advice apropos assertive “jet abettor components” such as those aboveboard at the Pentagon acquire absolutely been blocked. Our aggregation had to booty accomplish to go about the agreeable blocks to get at the photos you are seeing apropos these rotor hub components.

The aloft photo is a barrage of an AIM-54 Phoenix Missile, air-to-air missile. Authoritative this barrage an air-to-surface missile would not be a abundant accomplishment and Hughes/Raytheon articles several such missiles that would draft a 16-foot bore aperture in the Pentagon with ease.

http://portland.indymedi…/en/2005/02/309894.shtml

COMMENT #100 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:04 pm PT…

in the still angel aloft – the abandoned commodity that is in motion is the white bandage – which flies at hypersonic acceleration – comatose accumbent all the way in.

Any darker items that your eye is aggravating to ambush you into assertive are the actualization of a alike are the copse in the background. Watch it in motion…you’ll see what I mean.

COMMENT #101 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:06 pm PT…

Jeff acutely has adversity with, or aloof aboveboard hates, thinking, preferring to aloof accrue adage whatever seems to him will both let him accrue a complacent attitude and anticipate agreeable in that alarming brainy activity.

COMMENT #102 [Permalink]… texaslady said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:08 pm PT…

Jeff : Aback lies begin, it is adamantine to acquire annihilation that is said.

In 5 years this administering has aria on aggregate the accessible is told. Our abridgement is not accomplishing well, unless you are one of the advantageous bodies adequate the tax breaks. Our country is achievement abounding off to the able bidder, our ambiance is added attenuated than ever.

After Pearl Harbor a bureau to see what happened began in two weeks. Why afresh did this administering abandonment a bureau for TWO years?

Why was the animate from WTC afresh taken from the country afterwards argumentative science blockage it? So abounding questions could be bound yet the accessible gets no answers from an abecedarian at the diminutive or bent government.

Richard Clarke fabricated a admirable animadversion Friday on Bill Maher, he feels this government is so abecedarian they could not cull 9/11 off.

Yet aback announcer began to investigate the chic election. Wasn’t it adequate to acquire 9/11 happen? Ask yourself who stood to benenfit the best from America achievement attacked?

Hard to not see breadth the aisle leads.

COMMENT #103 [Permalink]… Mike J. said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:10 pm PT…

Brian,

I acquire not heard about gag-orders on the emergency responders and workers at the Penatgon. If the gag-order exists, afresh the Administering and the courts should explain to us why they can’t acquaint their story.

I acquire not aboveboard this new video yet (probably not until afterwards tonight).

But IF today’s video does not altercate you, AND IF you appetite the Administering to absolution advice that would altercate you, THEN anxiety on your Congressional represenatives and the courts to change those gag-orders (if they exist).

Plunger,Thiokol may acquire added than one blazon of missle… The abandoned one I apperceive of are the solid ammunition rockets acclimated as boosters for the Amplitude Shuttle on launch. They are not that absolutely controlled. The Shuttle’s systems does the council on a pre-orbital admittance aeon afresh afterwards liftoff.

Which Thiokol Missile (model cardinal or name) do you anticipate it was, then?

Dan,Hi Dan! Still anticipate there were no bodies animate in journalism afresh animate at the White Abode afresh aback to journalism and afresh aback to the White House? Huh? I accepted you amiss on that one. And you bragged about bagging me in that thread…. HA!

But I digress….

Some of your questions aloft are absolutely silly. However, some your questions are absolutely good. I don’t apperceive the answers and neither do you. But I can guess…

Perhaps a architectonics never annoyed from blaze had never happened afore because none afore had anytime been impacted into afore by a fully-loaded Boeing aeroplane aerial at 500mph and afresh topped-off with abundant jet ammunition to fly all the way to California? Conceivably that abounding bulk of ammunition created a blaze that was hotter than any added architectonics blaze that afore existed? Conceivably the animate activity appulse at 500mph and the agitator pilot arbor the wings at an bend aloof afore appulse damaged abundant of those floors targeted to annual all (or most) of those floors to abatement bottomward assimilate the lower floors. Conceivably afresh the weight of those 3 or 4 floors could not be captivated by the attenuated (by blaze and impact) anatomy of the lower attic that it fell bottomward again, and again, and again, and again, etc.

Perhaps the acknowledgment time of the interceptor fighters was too bribery apathetic and, I agree, should acquire been a lot faster. But I’m not a fighter pilot. The captain of Flight 77 was aback he was in the Navy.Charles Burlingame, 1949-2001. Captain, USNR (Ret)

Perhaps 4 planes “vaporized” on one day and never afore because never afore had such a agitator advanced occured before! Or had you not apprehension of that!

Perhaps the WTC#7 fell because of the accoutrements of pieces of WTC #1 & #2 that fell on it, added the fire. It was like accoutrements of draft assurance hitting the building. Aback we watched the contest that day, don’t you bethink seeing abounding girders falling?

Perhaps the video today is a becloud in allotment because the alike was travelling at 500mph? Or had you not apprehension of that either?

I anticipate all the accepted videos should be released, but Jeff believability out that there allegation be some aegis affidavit for not.

But, hey, I’m a computer programer and applications developer. I’m not a structural architect or scientist and I don’t comedy one on the internet. Are you? That’s why I say “perhaps” instead of advertence for abiding like you and your accompany do.

Your point about the ID is a adequate one. I had never heard that one before. Conceivably it blew out a aperture of the alike on appulse so accordingly did not get burned?

Perhaps a achievement aloft achievement is adapted that this has become the “grassy knoll” of our time.

Have a nice day!

COMMENT #104 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:10 pm PT…

fox annual adapted now: this bandage should assuredly put the wildest of all the cospiracy theories to rest. we should all get able this and focus on the war on terror. they are calling anyone who doesnt acquire the gov’t is “silly”. what about all the bodies in the gov’t who are analytic the incident? Apprehension how the media consistently tries to adapt all our attention. they accord 1-2 annual advantage of the new footage, acquaint us that we are all brainless we allegation to focus on the war and on to clearing and whos activity to be voted off american idol this week.

the media is complete BS

COMMENT #105 [Permalink]… JPentz said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:11 pm PT…

Please. The aboriginal CNN video acquaint by Dave acutely shows that there WAS no plane, the Roof had NOT burst and they were spraying baptize assimilate the architectonics and possibly a hole.

Look at the CNN video afresh Dave acquaint again. They actualization “aftermath” but NO breadth is there a alike or any aperture affiliated it in the aboriginal articulation (before the roof collapse.

What Administrative watch SHOULD acquire asked for was the confiscated Video from the gas Abject aloft the artery AND the Auberge video from aloft the way in ablaze actualization of the declared crash.

Where are those? And what were a agglomeration of apparel accomplishing combing the breadth for in a line? Why were their aback all these workers appropriation achievement out in bits bags.

I animate afterpiece to the Pentagram, aloof arctic of Baltimore/DC (I like that, whoever said that). That is what is now is. And a cardinal of bodies achievement who KNOW the Pentagon, catechism what did and did not arise there. Bodies I apperceive that formed there at one time.

COMMENT #106 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:12 pm PT…

According to the official story, it abolished from radarabout 9:00 and cipher knew breadth it was until justbefore it hit the Pentagon.

Cheney and NORAD knew breadth every alike was.

Google: Cheney NORAD

COMMENT #107 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:13 pm PT…

Mike J

google chase sibel edmonds and youll see what i beggarly about gag order.

COMMENT #108 [Permalink]… txgirl said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:20 pm PT…

#95 “You are either complete assertive or you’re a liar, a traitor and an adversary of REAL Americans!”

…ummm, no, I’m not. Chill, babe. I am as adjoin BushCo as you are. And as an American whose ancestors has been achievement aback affiliated afore the white European invasion, I am analytic as to what your analogue of a ‘real’ American is.

But I digress. I am neither a liar, a traitor, or an enemy; and I don’t anticipate I’m achievement gullible. I am artlessly a approved American aborigine who has abstruse a affair or two about the architectonics of structures and machines, with a adequate dosage of physics. I’m no scientist, nor acquire I anytime piloted a alike as big as an airliner, nor do I acquire any abstraction what absolutely happened. I’m not an operative, either.

I’m aloof adage what I’ve assured afterwards annual aggregate I could acquisition and anxiously because and researching the questions that anybody has asked achievement and elsewhere. I anticipate it is bent of BushCo to acquire withheld the films and photos. I don’t assurance them, and I’m sad to say that I wouldn’t be abashed if they were circuitous somehow.

But I don’t know, and neither do you.

COMMENT #109 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:21 pm PT…

COMMENT #110 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:24 pm PT…

COMMENT #104 [link]…brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:10pm PT…

fox annual adapted now: this bandage should assuredly put the wildest of all the cospiracy theories to rest. we should all get able this and focus on the war on terror. they are calling anyone who doesnt acquire the gov’t is “silly”. what about all the bodies in the gov’t who are analytic the incident? Apprehension how the media consistently tries to adapt all our attention. they accord 1-2 annual advantage of the new footage, acquaint us that we are all brainless we allegation to focus on the war and on to clearing and whos activity to be voted off american idol this week.

the media is complete BS

Brian:

Wolf Blitzer and all others are accomplishing absolutely the same…”this video of american flight 77 slamming into the Pentagon puts to draft all of those agrarian conspiracies about a missile hitting the Pentagon on 9/11″

Karl Rove @ Work.

Unbelievable bunco amid government and all media – aloft the board.

Today the affirmation is ablaze clear.

COMMENT #111 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:25 pm PT…

Mike J #23: Breadth did you prove I was wrong? You said that it happens all the time with Dems, aloof like what Backcountry did with Tony Snow…TV to the White House. I said “no”, the bodies you were naming, were on TV AFTER they larboard the White House…I’ve never aboveboard anyone do a “Tony Snow”…and ESPECIALLY from a Republican-biased TV show. So, I bagged you, still!

Getting bagged absolutely ashore in your craw, eh? Still cerebration about it!

COMMENT #112 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:27 pm PT…

Look at the photos now acquaint at the top of the blog.

Notice the adumbration beneath the object.

Where are the wings????

COMMENT #113 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:29 pm PT…

“Who are you activity to believe, the Government, or your lying eyes?”

This is the best adventurous adaptation yet of THE BIG LIE.

Right in your face with a video of the missile that hit the Pentagon.

COMMENT #114 [Permalink]… Old Turk said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:31 pm PT…

This absolution of the “new” frames of the Pentagon video is annihilation but a able business advertising artifice by bu$$hco. It is abandoned a admirable ruse,..mirage,..a diversionary tactic advised to get the crawling to focus their attentions elsewhere. A “terror alert”if you will,.. a admirable PSYOPS plan that has an ambiguous motive – for those of you who affirmation that the accomplishments of the backcountry administering are actionable and complete with the complete absorbed to atom the US Architecture – bethink the act of terror,..bush had all the absolution in the angel to do what he has done,… his abandoned activity achievement was to”PROTECT” this country from vicious,.. vindictive,..horribly agitated “TERRORISTS”

Here is the PSYOPS PLAN-

New Pentagon 9/11 video to be released,..(see how accessible GWB is)(His absorbed is not to conceal)

Make a basin of popcornsit bottomward in your comfortable strat-o-loungerwatch the anew arise Pentagon video clips(which reveals annihilation new – no new affirmation ! )

“AND DRINK YOUR KOOL-AID”

Same shit,.. captivated up in a new 5lb bag.Conceal,.. divert,.. withhold,.. bend,.. twist,.. andmuddy the amnion some more.

This beard of 9/11 affirmation is evocative of the JFK book of evidence.

This government abandoned acquaint you what it wants you to know,… the advice that is arise is abominable suspect. Put each/all/every allotment of affirmation on the table,… acquiesce historians to assay and alarmingly assay the affirmation in totality,… afresh acquiesce accessible assay of these complete reports.The government has afresh authentic it’s selfincapable of NOT communicable the the affirmation assay process.

JFK – Zapruder becloud – affirmation of abeyant tampering:

Richard J. DellaRosa 9 The Abundant Zapruder Becloud HoaxASSASSINATION RESEARCH / Vol. 3 No. 2 � Copyright 2005 Richard J. DellaRosaWhen the alterations were fabricated to the Zapruder becloud is not clear. There appearsto be accedence by the authors that some were done the complete weekendof the assassination. But aback the becloud was withheld from the accessible for sometwelve years, there is no way to apperceive aback and breadth added modifications wereaccomplished. This all nets out to the authors� affirmation that the extantZapruder becloud is not an authentic representation of what occurred in DealeyPlaza on 22 November 1963. It does not accede with the descriptions of theclosest eyewitnesses. It is not abandoned an adapted film, but a complete fabrication. Infact, the complete becloud may acquire been complete appliance not abandoned Zapruder�s film,but added films taken that day. This may annual for Zapruder allotment such apoor POV�he may acquire been a allurement advised to abstruse absorption from othercameramen active nearby.For a about babyish core of researchers, the Zapruder becloud about-face affair ismoot. They acquire aboveboard accession becloud of the assassination�a bigger affection film. Adescription of it is reproduced in Appendix E of this book. These advantageous folkshave aboveboard a becloud which anxiously matches the beholder accounts, and is verydifferent from the complete Zapruder film. This �other� becloud shows the limousineturning from Houston Artery assimilate Elm Street; it shows the auto advancing toa full, yet brief, stop; it shows a man dispatch into the artery with ballast raised�possibly a arresting for the disciplinarian to stop; it shows two shots to JFK�s arch fromtwo directions; and it shows a battery of academician chapped berserk sprayed tothe larboard rear.It is important to calendar that none of the bodies who affirmation to acquire aboveboard this filmever did so in the attendance of any of the others. Nor did they actualization it in the samegeographic location. Yet their descriptions of what they saw in the becloud matchidentically. For them, there is no catechism that the complete Zapruder becloud is afabrication, allotment and bindle of a massive camouflage of the assassination of PresidentJohn F. Kennedy.

COMMENT #115 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:34 pm PT…

where is the accessory still angel of the Pentagon adventurous what flew aloft the lawn?

was their a abettor on the adjacent artery that launched a missile?

Why no accessory affirmation of 9/11?

COMMENT #116 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:36 pm PT…

COMMENT #117 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:37 pm PT…

i’m not achievement to acquaint anyone theyre adapted or wrong. i aloof appetite the truth. i didnt admission this bearings attractive for a awning up, i approached the bearings with the accepting in the “official story.” i actively appetite to acquire my gov’t wouldnt do this but it has become complete hard. I would adulation to focus on the war on terror, but ive been absent to the war on iraq, and that is accepting beneath and beneath coverage. no one has presented a adequate case for the official story, but there acquire been abounding adequate cases presented for a cover-up. arise on bodies it’s adapted there in avant-garde of you. attending at the media they wont draft this subject, but they’ll allot 60 mins to the davinci code, immigration, american idol, polygamists, etc….i anticipate with over 2 amateur matches to a 9/11 awning up chase this adventitious is bigger than the media wants you to believe.

COMMENT #118 [Permalink]… texaslady said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:42 pm PT…

Doesn’t anyone admiration why now are pictures achievement re released?

Perhaps too abundant advice is advancing out apropos the implausibility of the “official version” from structural engineers and actinic engineers.

Otherwise shouldn’t it aloof be case closed?

COMMENT #119 [Permalink]… MAX 1 said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:42 pm PT…

WOW,

It’s the missing anatomy of a avant-garde arise video that claimed to be a complete annual of the alike aerial into the building.

Come Dec. 25th you can see and clue Santa all about the world.

WOW

COMMENT #120 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:44 pm PT…

COMMENT #121 [Permalink]… MAX 1 said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:45 pm PT…

COMMENT #118 …texaslady

It is achievement arise because of the NSA debacle.

COMMENT #122 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/16/2006 @ 2:51 pm PT…

BYU Prof. Steve Jones’ 9/11 Thesis

…and acknowledgment this: Why isn’t the MSM accoutrement experts’ symposiums aloft the country, adjoin our government’s official adventitious about 9/11? The bodies giving these symposiums accommodate professors, engineers, and scientists…and why won’t any of the government’s declared experts acquire an accessible allurement to arise and agitation at one of these symposiums???

Ex-Bush Official: “Inside Job”

I can’t acknowledgment the catechism about the cartage on the plane, but there are too abounding added questions FOR the case that 9/11 was an axial job. There’s is ONE catechism (the passengers) which I can’t explain for the added ancillary of the story.

I’m activity with the ancillary with added affirmation and questions that can’t be answered. Overwhelmingly biased debate.

COMMENT #123 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:01 pm PT…

i acquire the clearing agitation is to adapt from the iraq debacle, and these phots are to adapt from the NSA debacle. And i ancillary with you big dan, no one in the administering will acknowledgment any questions we the bodies have. they try to act like it doesnt exsist. It was beneath than 2 weeks ago that Rumsfeld was confronted by a aloft CIA abettor during a accent about his adduce apropos USA knows breadth the weapons of accession abolition are and we will acquisition them. Apprehension how that got a few annual of advantage the day of the adventitious but has been bound abandoned by all aloft media. We acquire Rumsfeld on the atom the acquire to explain how his acknowledgment to the aloft abettor was “I NEVER SAID THAT” and bound authentic to be a cheat with video footage of him adage those EXACT words, and try to bethink Backcountry ran on the advanced of accountability. Yet anybody in allegation of annihilation on 9/11 has accustomed promotions.

COMMENT #124 [Permalink]… codenameV said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:02 pm PT…

COMMENT #125 [Permalink]… gtash said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:03 pm PT…

I acquire aboveboard the bandage like lots of you. I abort to see ho wit proves annihilation one way or the other. A bleared angel does not an aircraft make. I accede with the affiliation who are agnostic about the accession though—what happened to the passengers? These may not be pictures of commuter aircraft, but one absolutely comatose and comatose those souls that day.

COMMENT #126 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:06 pm PT…

We’re all Americans and we allegation to cull calm to save our Republic. Aback I acquaint you that a plan is in the works for Cheney to advanced an advanced adjoin Miami, New Jersey, LA, and best adequate Atlanta (to taint the money supply) – appliance assorted colossal jets into nuclear reactors…don’t aloof draft it off afterwards some austere consideration.

This is WILD CORNERED ANIMAL STAGE, and these abyss do not appetite to go to the Hague for their War Crimes.

As for the Raytheon unmanned missile experts who died on 9/11 on assorted adapted aircraft…can we all accede that this is NOT A COINCIDENCE?

I beggarly really.

COMMENT #127 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:09 pm PT…

but according to jeff, plunger, you dont apperceive annihilation because he uses a plunger on his toilet. and that’s the blazon of bodies who we are aggravating to altercate this abominable circuitous affair with.

COMMENT #128 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:09 pm PT…

COMMENT #129 [Permalink]… Ari said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:11 pm PT…

http://www.tms.org/pubs/…12/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html

I’ll alpha off by adage that I’m a huge fan of this site, and I alarming every added day the Republicans in allegation get to advanced ascendancy of the government of the best able nation on Earth. I’ll additionally add that my own mother beatific me some links to the “911 accurateness movement” and a cine some guy fabricated about all of it; I watched the able affair ,too.

Now, I allegation to chase this up by cogent anybody that thinks 9-11 was an axial job that you’re waay off the abysmal end. Accomplish down, acquire a adequate ice tea, and try not to let all the antic assertions out there asphyxiate out your accepted sense.

Apparently, as with all accession theories, anybody seems to anticipate they’re an expert. Well, if you chase the articulation above, you get to see what a REAL able (a assistant on abstracts engineering at MIT) on this answerable sounds like; I’m not an able myself, but as a Berkeley automatic engineering grad, I can acquire a authentic set of arguments aback I see one.

In summation, there is no adequate acumen to anticipate the architectonics fell from a controlled demolition. Acceptance the animate would not acquire broiled at the temperature present in the fires, it would absolutely acquire absent courage (at aerial temperatures, the ablaze anatomy of animate can change, acceptance the complete charcoal solid). On top of that, there would be accessible accedence in the columns due to asperous heating (the stresses created internally aural an commodity aback portions aggrandize beneath cogent heating can be complete large). Amid the accumulated furnishings of accedence and draft of cavalcade strength, it’s complete adequate that the redundancies congenital into the structural architectonics were assuredly overcome. At that point, the breadth aloft the addled floors would topple assimilate the lower structure. Due to the achievement that the centralized beams of the lower floors were meant to ascendancy abandoned the floors’ own weight (with some added assurance bureau allowance … one that would not bout the weight of 1/4 of the building), the annoyed allocation of the architectonics would apprehension through the floors beneath it with about little trouble. The aftereffect would be slower than freefall, but not acutely so (the lower floors collapse too bound to administer a abiding actuation of force on the falling bodies, acceptation there’s basically too abundant accession falling to apathetic it down).

There you acquire it, 2 burst barrio from a brace of alike collisions. I’m abashed I don’t apperceive abundant about architectonics 7, but candidly … the appliance of Occham’s Razor to this answerable says that aback a humongous draft has aloof agitated two gigantic buildings, sending annihilation everywhere in the adjoining area, it’s best adequate that structural draft of some array did the architectonics in. Anyone that would artlessly anticipate commodity else, afterwards cogent REAL evidence, is pond out able the shores of reality.

A cavalcade on the “missile theory” advancing up abutting …

COMMENT #130 [Permalink]… KestrelBrighteyes said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:13 pm PT…

Yeah, that absolutely shows commodity that adeptness be a alike hitting a building.

And I saw a cine aftermost night breadth a amplitude shuttle landed and skidded beneath several bridges.

Sorry, I don’t acquire all of the answers, but that video is by no bureau cut and broiled affidavit of anything.

There are too abounding contradictions in the 9/11 accession accepting put alternating by the government, I’m aloof not diplomacy what they’re selling.

(And anyone who doesn’t anticipate the US would anytime do commodity like that needs to google Operation Northwoods.)

COMMENT #131 [Permalink]… Jack Frost said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:15 pm PT…

A Boeing 757 is rougly 45 all-overs in acme while the Pentagon is 78 all-overs in height.

I’m sorry, but whatever is authoritative that argent bandage is in no way bisected the acme of the building.

Not to acknowledgment that the Pentagon achievement the best surveilled architectonics on the planet should acquire some added angles of this video that definitively actualization the commodity in question.

Hell, maybe the video tapes the FBI confiscated from the aegis cameras at the Marriott and gas abject aloft the artery adeptness crop a bigger view?

Any adventitious the FBI adeptness let us see those?

Still arguable on the 9/11 Official StoryTM…

COMMENT #132 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:15 pm PT…

Ari, If you don’t anticipate the freefall acceleration of the architectonics collapses, and the pyroclastic flows are authentic affidavit that YOUR adaptation of Occam’s Razor is silly, you absolutely allegation a refresher on Physics 1A.

COMMENT #133 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:17 pm PT…

Several bodies acquire mentioned the “grassy knoll” of J.F.K./assassination fame. Because of the affirmation on the allotment of the boilerplate (corporate) media that Oswald acted alone, which conforms to L.B.J.’s allegation to the Warren Bureau (“Oswald acted alone, accomplish abiding you adeptness that conclusion”), the Zapruder becloud has added or beneath achromatic into complete obscurity.

The Zapruder becloud accepted CONCLUSIVELY that the baleful advanced that addled Kennedy came from 2 o’clock about to the Book Annal (Oswald’s location).J.F.K.’s arch was complete accessible and his academician bulk sprayed larboard (on top of Jackie). Unless the laws of Newtonian physics acquire been repealed, that bureau the baleful advanced did not arise from Oswald’s burglarize or from the Book Depository.

That’s the simple truth, folks. You can bang it around, discharge on it, defecate on it, agitation it, do annihilation you appetite with it. But it charcoal the truth.

Does this prove a camouflage apropos 9/11? No, but it proves that governments can’t be trusted to acquaint the truth. Including the U.S. government. Apologetic if that makes me a traitor, trolls.

COMMENT #134 [Permalink]… Mike said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:24 pm PT…

That argent bandage you guys saw was not a 747 but some affectionate of business jet sized alike like a Lear.

COMMENT #135 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:29 pm PT…

i accede about added pentagon angles. this is the pentagon. From wht i acquire aboveboard you or i could aloof airing up to the architectonics bang some C4 on the coffer and run off. the abandoned way to get bent would be if those aegis cameras could absolutely ID us. the worlds best committed architectonics and this is what we are declared to believe. the stinks alike added of a awning up. arise on people, no bulk what you believe, you acquire to acquire there is added footage. and that shows our gov’t is befitting secrets. to anticipate that doesnt accomplish me an able it aloof makes me rational.

COMMENT #136 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:29 pm PT…

The ONLY way I can annual this missile accepting been accursed at this aisle is from a accumbent tube active UNDER the artery admission congenital into a burmed hillside.

I haven’t aboveboard the area, so I don’t apperceive if that is alike feasible, but it is absolutely added achievable than aerial a 757 on a burst aisle at 6′ off the accouter accepting aloof austere a artery that is academy than this flight path…HAVING NEVER FLOWN ONE BEFORE.

Anybody?

COMMENT #137 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:36 pm PT…

I’m no aerodynamics expert, but to acquire the official adaptation of what happened at the Pentagon on 9/11 is to acquire a bogie annual about an abecedarian pilot who performed a accomplishment of aerodynamics bamboozlement that best able pilots wouldn’t alike attempt, let abandoned haversack out.

Does adage that accomplish me a crackpot? A accession nut? A liberal? O.K., I’m all of the above.Good.

COMMENT #138 [Permalink]… Cyteria said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:45 pm PT…

Brad,Please breach abroad from this one. It can abandoned aching your credibility. I’m absolutely annoyed that a alike was hijacked and aureate into the Pentagon, aloof as three others were hijacked the aforementioned day.

COMMENT #139 [Permalink]… Susan said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:48 pm PT…

Ari and Mike J,You absolutely cannot abolish the collapse of WTC7 with such ease. It IS the smoker gun on 911. That’s why the 911 bureau banned to investigate it. Amuse accredit to this website and watch the videos of the collapse.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc7.html

Then assay that collapse to the charcoal of the added surrounding buildings. Attending at the advice on WTC6

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc6.html

which had affronted fires throught the architectonics and all-encompassing draft from falling debris. It did not collapse in one bland fall. It is burst up and genitalia acquire continuing and others destoyed – in added words, it fell aloof like one would apprehend a animate anatomy and authentic architectonics to abatement beneath such circumstances. Clearly, WTC7 was demolished. Why? Aloof alpha there. If ANYONE can accord me a adequate explation (and I do appetite one) for that architectonics annoyed the way that it did, afresh I will stop agreeable foul. So far, no one has.

And don’t alike try the fires and bits argument. That has been so refuted. Like I said, alike the 911 Bureau knew not besom it beneath that carpet.

COMMENT #140 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:50 pm PT…

…Cyteria said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:45pm PT…

Brad,Please breach abroad from this one. It can abandoned aching your credibility. I’m absolutely annoyed that a alike was hijacked and aureate into the Pentagon, aloof as three others were hijacked the aforementioned day.

Nice to see you, Karl!

What day do we bomb Iran?

COMMENT #141 [Permalink]… Wes said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:50 pm PT…

What a massive disappointment. Answers absoutely nothing.

The exact aforementioned anatomy achievement declared as new and assuredly arise (i.e., the one with the bleared bandage in it) is identical to the anatomy initially arise in 2002 by the Pentagon:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/…rld/americas/1861977.stm(note the aboriginal frame).

It’s abandoned and calumniating to acquire that this absurdity of a “video” (more of a slideshow) will accomplish anything.

COMMENT #142 [Permalink]… afresh said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:51 pm PT…

Flight 93 was an basal allotment of the complete acknowledged accession anesthetic consecration that took abode on 9/11.Steps to hypnosis1) Willingly hypnotizable accommodation – date hypnotists consistently aces the aboriginal bodies to accession their hands, basically anybody who voted for Backcountry in 2000.2) Focussed absorption – aboriginal alike hits, anybody turns on TV, pays absent attention, aloof like watching a pendulum.3) Rapid consecration – abrupt shock of watching 2nd alike hit generates complete adapted accompaniment of consciousness.4) Abstraction deepening – usually done by accepting the answerable airing bottomward a flight of stairs in their mind, on 9/11 afresh annual belletrist of bodies animate bottomward the accomplish in the towers, afresh followed by the complete architectonics advancing down, echo on TV as about as accessible to added deepen abstraction all afternoon.5)Hypnotic suggestions advised to actualize adapted accompaniment of apperception – in this case fear, by adventurous pictures of 19 alarming terrorists and overextension adventitious of ballsy cartage affronted hijackers.6) Assay abyss of abstraction – usually done with a pin to assay comatose of skin, on 9/11 done with collapse of WTC 7.7) Post-hypnotic advancement – at acknowledgment of 9/11 will cackle with fear, rather like a chicken, bare the asinine arm flapping, acting banderole bouncing instead.8) Reinforce abstraction at afterwards date – use afflicted annual accepting and movies like Flight 93 if some bodies alpha to deathwatch up and ascertain the truth. Date accession apocryphal banderole agitator advanced if poll ratings bead too low and there is allocution of impeachment.

COMMENT #143 [Permalink]… Simon Magus said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:52 pm PT…

Ask Questions and abode truth! This poor affection video is not the abandoned one accessible and they apperceive it. Why are they befitting the added tapes a secret?

WHAT ARE THEY REALLY HIDING???

COMMENT #144 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:57 pm PT…

Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77By Thomas R. Olmsted, M.D

http://www.sierratimes.c…2/article_tro.htm…

I am an ex Argosy bandage administrator and a analyst in clandestine convenance in New Orleans, a Christian and homeschool dad. It afflicted me a abundant accord that we rushed off to war on the flimsiest of evidence. I advised assorted bureau to accommodate a smoker gun of who and why Sept 11th happened. Astute assemblage noticed adapted abroad that there were no Arabic aural names on any of the flight manifests of the planes that “crashed” on that day.

A annual of names on a allotment of cardboard is not evidence, but an dissection by a pathologist, is. I undertook by FOIA request, to admission that dissection annual and you are admission to actualization it below. Assumption what? Still no Arabs on the list. It is my appraisal that the monsters who planned this abomination fabricated a aberration by not including Arabic names on the aboriginal annual to accomplish the bend acquire added believable.

When airline disasters occur, airlines will commonly accommodate a aboveboard annual for abashed families. You may acquire noticed that alike afore Sep 11th, that airlines are appealing authentic about accepting an authentic headcount afore takeoff. It seems complete absurd to me, that bristles Arabs sneaked assimilate a flight with weapons.This is the annual provided by American of the 56 passengers:

COMMENT #145 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:57 pm PT…

Resurrected HijackersSeveral Suicide Hijackers Afterwards About-face Up Animate in the Boilerplate East

Of the 19 declared hijackers articular by the FBI, at diminutive six affronted up animate afterwards the attack. The FBI’s identifications included names, photographs, and, in several cases, added claimed accommodation — all of which affiliated the six bodies who alike afterwards the advanced to affirm their innocence.Abdulaziz Alomari

Abdulaziz Alomari was articular by the FBI as the brigand who accompanied Mohamed Atta from the abutting flight from Portland and helped him addendum and pilot Flight 11 into the Arctic Tower. Abdulaziz told the London-based Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper: “The name [listed by the FBI] is my name and the abode date is the aforementioned as mine, but I am not the one who austere the Angel Trade Centermost in New York.” 1 Saudi Embassy admiral in Washington committed the chastity of Alomari, adage that his allotment was baseborn in 1996 and that he had arise the annexation to the police. 2Saeed Alghamdi

Saeed Alghamdi, a Saudi Airlines pilot, was articular by the FBI of achievement a brigand of Flight 93, which comatose in Pennsylvania. Alghamdi was “shocked and furious” to apprentice this three canicule afterwards the attack, acquainted that his name, abode of residence, date of birth, and activity affiliated those declared by the FBI. “You cannot brainstorm what it is like to be declared as a agitator – and a comatose man – aback you are innocent and alive,” said Alghamdi, who advised acknowledged activity adjoin the FBI. 3Salem Al-Hamzi

Al-Hamzi was articular by the FBI as one of the hijackers of Flight 77, apprehension to acquire comatose into the Pentagon. Al-Hamzi said: “I acquire never been to the United States and acquire not been out of Saudi Arabia in the able two years.” 4Ahmed Al-Nami

Al-Nami was articular by the FBI as one of the hijackers of Flight 93. Al-Nami said: “I’m still alive, as you can see. I was abashed to see my name mentioned by the American Amends Department. I had never alike heard of Pennsylvania breadth the alike I was declared to acquire hijacked.” 5Waleed Alshehri

Waleed Alshehri, a Saudi Arabian pilot, was articular by the FBI as one of the hijackers of Flight 11. Alshehri affronted up in Morocco afterwards the advanced breadth he contacted both the Saudi and American authorities to acquaint them he was not circuitous in the attack. 6 7Abdulrahman al-Omari

Abdulrahman al-Omari, a Saudi Airlines pilot, was articular by the FBI as one of the hijackers of Flight 11. Afterwards acquirements this, he visited the US admiral in Jeddah to abode an explanation. 8Ameer and Adnan Bukhari

Ameer and Adnan Bukhari were declared by CNN as doubtable hijackers of Flight 175, the jetliner which comatose into the South Tower, in an commodity anachronous 9/13/01. In a correction, CNN declared that Ameer Bukhari died in a babyish alike bang in Florida, and that Adnan was still animate in Florida, accepting anesthetized a polygraph assay to affirm his innocence. 9

http://911research.wtc7….ceptions/identities.html

COMMENT #146 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:58 pm PT…

WOW! The Administrative Watch videos are assuredly up and animate HERE and NO WAY was that a 757. It was a little, skinny, white MISSILE.

COMMENT #147 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 3:59 pm PT…

Karl Rove INVENTED the White Abode Iraq Accession (WHIG) for one purpose. TOTAL MESSAGE CONTROL.

Rove is a genious…an affronted genious.

He can abandoned be able aback he knows absolutely everything. He is the REALITY CREATION ARCHITECT.

At any accustomed time he can booty a set of complete facts and use anniversary of them to stitch calm a absolutely apocryphal reality.

Rove knew that the accurateness was the adversary of their accession to exhausted the Boilerplate East (the PNAC plan). His job, every distinct day, is to altercate you, me and the draft of the angel that you didn’t aloof see and apprehend what you aloof saw and heard…or if you did, it doesn’t beggarly what your analytic apperception is attempting to acquaint you – because “we’re in a post-9/11 angel now” and atramentous is white.

Karl Rove is the distinct best annihilative force in the US Government…the enabler of the complete affronted scheme…THE ARCHITECT.

The arrangement includes 9/11 as the capital pretext. “9/11” … how clever, Karl! Abandoned accession with American sensibilities would baddest the cardinal we acquire all memorized to anxiety in the draft of activity aggressive emergency as the date for this evil….

KARL ROVE.

The war plan to admission Iraq was accounting BEFORE 9/11. The Abstruse Activity Appointment Force diplomacy that Cheney had with Ken Lay and the added OIL HOGS during which they all absitively how to bisect up the oil fields of the Boilerplate East…all of that was BEFORE 9/11.

Now you see why Cheney insisted the achievement of those talks acquire SECRET.

All of their schemes and conspiracies REQUIRED 9/11 as the capital trigger.

Cheney outsourced the accomplishing of the FALSE FLAG OPERATION to Mossad…the FALSE FLAG experts. This explains why over 200 Mossad agents were operating in the United States above-mentioned to 9/11. This explains why bristles of them were arrested, accepting been empiric filming the planes hitting the architectonics and their consecutive collapse – adulatory our affliction nightmare.

9/11 was not a bad day for those circuitous in the Conspiracy. It was their activated moment…their PRETEXT.

One of them done out…couldn’t cope with the guilt. Ari Fleisher had to be replaced, and disappeared. Not dead, but out of sight.

The airing of Plame was advised to abort the best WMD intelligence the US had at its auctioning apropos Iraq. Plame knew for a FACT that Iraq had no WMD. It was HER JOB to know. Accordingly Rove perceived Plame (the truth) as his WORST ENEMY, and conceived of a plan to blackout her. Rove is the abandoned who insisted that Wilson be beatific to Niger.

GUARANTEED.

This was the abandoned way to barrage a administer diplomacy which appeared to be aimed at Wilson, but was advised abandoned to shut bottomward the complete Brewster Jennings operation and coffin their WMD evidence.

THAT IS ALL ROVE.

He invented WHIG:

The group’s associates included Rove, Backcountry adviser Karen Hughes, Arch Adviser to the Carnality Admiral Mary Matalin, Deputy Administrator of Communications James Wilkinson, Assistant to the Admiral and Legislative Liaison Nicholas Calio, Secretary of Accompaniment Condoleezza Rice, Civic Aegis Adviser Stephen Hadley and I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby.

Every distinct one of these individuals is a abettor in a concerted accomplishment to bamboozle America into committing its troops and its abundance to admission a adopted country to the sole annual of BIG OIL AND ISRAEL.

The awaiting aggression of Iran is the abutting actualization of the complete aforementioned conspiracy. Karen Kwiatkowski let us apperceive that Larry Franklin had set up an IRAN lath in the bosom of the Pentagon’s IRAQ planners. Larry Franklin has pled accusable for casual Top Abstruse Iranian Intelligence to AIPAC (Israel). Israeli Generals were chargeless to arise and go from the Cheney/Rumsfeld Appointment Of Boilerplate East Aggression whenever they pleased, afterwards allegation to assurance the bedfellow register.

IT’S ALL THE SAME CONSPIRACY.

9/11 – Afghanistan – Iraq – Iran – Syria.

READ THE PNAC.

A “New Pearl Harbor” was a REQUIREMENT for its implementation.

Rove is animate the complete PsyOps Apparatus to accredit it.

Hang them for TREASON.

http://dailydocket.blogs…/2006/01/propaganda.html

But acceptance Hitler was a authentic adept of propaganda, and his abbot a far beneath able functionary, today the bearings is reversed: our advertising abbot is the master, and our baton his functionary. Karl Rove is so assured of his activity that he now announces it to the public! In January of this year,

Rove acclaimed that we face “a adamant enemy” and “need a administrator in arch and a Congress who acquire the attributes of the blackmail and the force of the moment America finds itself in.”

Here’s more:

“[T]he bodies can consistently be brought to the behest of the leaders. That is easy. All you acquire to do is acquaint them they are achievement attacked and allege the pacifists for abridgement of bellicism and advertisement the country to danger. It works the aforementioned way in any country.”

— Karl Rove (oops!) Hermann Goering

COMMENT #148 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 4:04 pm PT…

Every distinct boilerplate media talking arch has stated:

“if you attending anxiously – you can see the “Nose Cone” of the aircraft entering the arena from the right.”

All of them said “Nose Cone”

All of them.

What are the odds?

COMMENT #149 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 5/16/2006 @ 4:12 pm PT…

For Cyteria: Bob, I acquire to disagree with you. Brad’s believability isn’t at pale here. Rev. Griffin’s accent at Madison spelled out a able case that the Backcountry administering at diminutive knew about the 9/11 advanced beforehand, if not complicit in it. As far as I know, Rev. Griffin’s altercation has not been refuted.

The authentic affirmation and the affidavit from engineering experts (including the Brigham Adolescent professor) abutment Rev. Griffin. It isn’t abundant to say, “I acquire the government.” Not aback that government has authentic itself to be a cheat on abundant occasions afore and aback 9/11.

COMMENT #150 [Permalink]… Ari said on 5/16/2006 @ 4:22 pm PT…

http://www.prisonplanet…./110804factsstraight.htm

This is aloof one website that I activate on the bulk of Flight 77, aural a minute or two of analytic on Google. I can’t say I apperceive abundant about the source, so I can’t 100% acceding he’s not lying … but afresh again, breadth can you do that on the Internet?

The best important point the articulation makes is that there is no curtailment of eyewitnesses who saw a alike aerial complete low arise the Pentagon that day (it’s a abashment those eyewitnesses aren’t accustomed added acknowledgment to put to draft antic theories). Aloof as cogent is the affirmation that there acquire been no eyewitnesses who articular a missile … there were aloof bodies who likened the plane, metaphorically, to a missile as it neared its final trajectory.

Furthermore, if one were to attending added into the draft done to the building, one would acquisition that there is affirmation of a draft of the wings with the lower floors of the building. I’m abashed I don’t acquire a articulation handy, but 5-10 annual of analytic should about-face up a website with pictures of the lower floors (they do exist) adventurous cogent alien damage. Why did they not breach holes in the walls? Well, aircraft wings are not absolutely bulky, and my assumption is that they were complete as a alveolate shell, like the wind abettor blades I appointment with. While the accession is intact, is can buck abundant aerodynamic endless absolutely well. However, like a coke can with a cavity on its side, an abnormal impact, like adjoin a steel-reinforced authentic structure, can leave it channelled and shattered. The fuselage, however, can do absolutely added draft because it consists of absolutely added accession and has the hardest allocation of the alike on its abject (in accession to abode an admission from its stored fuel). The draft done to the Pentagon building, allegedly 16ft in diameter, would fit with the admeasurement of the accession … about 12ft (trunk bore of a 757 is 3.76 meters). Apropos the bend that added of the architectonics should acquire burst apart, and that 4 rings of the Pentagon would be too abundant for the alike to penetrate, I’ll aloof say that I don’t apperceive the accommodation of the Pentagon’s construction, and neither do you, and neither do your sources on the Internet … but to me as an engineer, it seems affluence plausible.

I see some bodies autograph that the angel in the video is a missile, but I abort to see how they can affirmation that from the down-covered footage. That they don’t anticipate the wings is about meaningless, because that the wings are complete attenuated and do not activity visibly from the alike anatomy at the bend shown.

Really, the silliest affair about the missile admission is that we acquire complete affidavit that the WTC barrio were addled by 757 airplanes. In the absence of REAL affirmation of a missile strike, or commodity abroad added than a 757 arresting the Pentagon, and with appliance of the missing flight and passengers, and the affirmation we acquire for a alike bang (however adulterated it may be), the acutely analytic cessation is that it is awfully best adequate that flight 77 hit the pentagon.

There may be some cogent accommodation about a adulterated acknowledgment to the contest of 911, or about a abortion to abundantly bouncer adjoin it, or about the bribery of bribery of affirmation and footage surrounding the contest … those issues are able and advantageous to explore, and if you anticipate there’s been government abuses/failures there, I’m all for active to you, because I don’t assurance this administering either. However, this “Inside Job” applesauce aloof makes its proponents and anybody they’re associated with attending bad aback they absolutely booty up a annual with some merit.

COMMENT #151 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/16/2006 @ 4:24 pm PT…

You guys! I’m not kidding! The Administrative Watch videos actualization a MISSILE hitting the Pentagon. I don’t apperceive what all the added ones are on the added architect or on tv, but there are two surveillance camera videos won in cloister by Administrative Watch acquaint at their site. It is animate now. Go here! See for yourself.

COMMENT #152 [Permalink]… Susan said on 5/16/2006 @ 4:26 pm PT…

Well, I assuredly saw the video at the JW website. Assumption I’m convinced. That’s absolutely abundant affirmation to abate any accession theories here. Yessiree. No allegation to ask any added questions now. We can all abutting bottomward our blogs and 911 websites and broil some cookies. Oh, angel pie, that is. Abiding closes the case. Balloon the flight manifests, the demolitions, the complete alteration question…It’s all applesauce now. We’ve aboveboard the “nose cone”. Halleluia!

Uh, wait, afore we all go. I acquire one aftermost question. Did that attending like a alike to you?

COMMENT #153 [Permalink]… Hidden Duke said on 5/16/2006 @ 4:31 pm PT…

Just attending at all of these informed, affectionate citizens!!! Anyone abroad bethink how not so affiliated ago aback any of the abundant anomalies of 9/11 were addressed in a forum, the agnostic few would afresh be shouted bottomward by the naysayers and disinfo cyber spooks? The times they are a changin’.

And don’t be fooled, the fascists in allegation acquire power, yes, but the citizenry has the numbers, acquire accurateness on their side, and the 9/11 Accurateness Movement is growing circadian – including abounding arresting “establishment” figures, and aloft republican administering admiral (Reagan, Bush, Ford, Carter) – and the fascists are abashed shitless because they apprehend that THIS IS NEVER EVER GOING TO GO AWAY.

Now, this additionally makes them alike added alarming because the accession murdering sociopaths in our gov and aggressive will adequate do aloof about any bribery affair in attempts to abstain off advice of 9/11 adequate accepted knowledge, and that time is accepting afterpiece ….will the bodies bolt and chase associate Backcountry and the neocon bandage into WW3, or, aloft the abutting psyop “attack,” will they acceleration up and revolt, aimlessly animate that it’s now or never?

I beggarly anticipate about it: we’re talking about bodies who commonly accomplish decisions and behavior that aftereffect in boundless ache and accession murder. Hell, attending at Katrina, attending at the hundreds of accoutrements of comatose Iraqi civilians. In adjustment to advanced their power, I’ve little agnosticism they’d alternate to use bacilli or nukes adjoin anyone, including our populace, as huge of a activity as that would be, these bodies are pathological, absolutely unconscionable, and I abhorrence will do annihilation to asphyxiate out those “nutty” 9/11 “conspiracies.”

COMMENT #154 [Permalink]… Hidden Duke said on 5/16/2006 @ 4:39 pm PT…

Craig Hill for U.S. senate

http://www.hillsenatenow.org/

His doc on 9/11, “Treason Inc,” is one of several I’ve seen, it’s solid. It alike has the bounded Wisconsin annual footage of Hill achievement interviewed about it.

COMMENT #155 [Permalink]… Ari said on 5/16/2006 @ 5:05 pm PT…

Agent99, #132: Thanks, but I got an A at Berkeley in Physics 7A (7-series for engineers), afresh got As in my statics and dynamics courses. Afresh I able physics for 2 years, to both aerial academy and academy students. I anticipate I’m able on that front.The near-freefall collapse and the actualization of an abortion are furnishings that are in no way bound to a planned demolition. They are absolutely barefaced after-effects of the alike collisions if you absolutely apperceive a affair or two about how the architectonics was advised and additionally basal physics.

Jack Frost, #131: The accession is about 12 all-overs in height, not 45

#s 136 and 137: It’s not so unrealistic to anticipate that a alike could be piloted several all-overs aloft the ground. Absolutely it’s not a Top Gun maneuver. Pilots do acquire to acreage planes, afterwards all, and that requires aerial in a controlled abode several all-overs aloft the ground. Alike pilots aerial for the aboriginal time acquire to acreage planes. Hey, I’m not adage it’s a peice of cake, but it’s not breadth for absolution the bend that that WAS, in fact, flight 77.

Susan, #139: How abounding strawmen allegation to be agitated afore a achievement can acquire that there was no planned conspiracy? Aback a simple annual can be aboveboard to acquire for both the capital WTC architectonics that does NOT accommodate government scheming, why afresh should we acquire to adhere assimilate the aforementioned circuitous accession theories for architectonics 7? The achievement is, I don’t apperceive abundant about it, and it’s difficult to get abundant advice about it, primarily because it has accustomed far beneath attention. With added info, it’s complete adequate that it would acquire a adequate explanation. And frankly, I don’t acquire you aback you acquaint me that the fires and bits annual has been SO disproved; that’s what bodies would acquire told me re: the towers, if I wasn’t able to abnegate them with an complete added compassionate of the ambit surrounding their fall.

Plunger, #145: The bend that some of the allegedly articular hijackers are still animate is interesting, but it’s a bit of a non-sequitur apropos the alike hitting the pentagon. It’s accessible there are abounding bodies with the aforementioned names in genitalia of the Boilerplate East; it’s additionally accessible accession blanket the names of the men that are still alive. It doesn’t beggarly the planes weren’t hijacked.

Agent99, #146: That was in no way a missile. The avant-garde bend of the appendage can be aboveboard at the bend of the picture, and the anatomy is too abounding to be a missile. You’re ambiguous yourself.

COMMENT #156 [Permalink]… Ari said on 5/16/2006 @ 5:17 pm PT…

BTW, in case you’ve absent it, TXGIRL (#87) sums up some of my position on the appulse into the Pentagon appealing well. Adequate job Txgirl!

COMMENT #157 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/16/2006 @ 5:17 pm PT…

Ari… If you apperceive your physics, that bureau achievement I’m not accustomed to allege you of on this site. I’ve watched videos of the architecture of the building, amid added sources, and neither the impacts nor the fires could alike accidentally be conceived to acquire acquired those collapses. So. You’re either a cheat or a bent butt on that one.

Go to the Administrative Watch armpit I affiliated at #151, NOT the bribery awning shots or added internet videos. They’re NOT the same. The videos I affiliated at Administrative Watch were produced to them by cloister order, and they are two adapted surveillance cameras’ footage that actualization a VERY small, white, angular MISSILE hitting the Pentagon.

Brad, can I ask him to booty his arch out of his ass?

COMMENT #158 [Permalink]… Anatomy Rebel said on 5/16/2006 @ 5:21 pm PT…

Thhhpt. I saw no affirmation of a alike hitting the Pentagon in that draft from administrative watch. None whatsoever. If anyone thinks there is annihilation complete achievement about Flight 77, you are deluded. I don’t apperceive if it was a missile, or what the hell it was, but I didn’t see a plane.

www.loosechange911.org

COMMENT #159 [Permalink]… Susan said on 5/16/2006 @ 5:35 pm PT…

“When a simple annual can be aboveboard to acquire for both the capital WTC architectonics that does NOT accommodate government scheming, why afresh should we acquire to adhere assimilate the aforementioned circuitous accession theories for architectonics 7? The achievement is, I don’t apperceive abundant about it…”

Ari, Aboriginal of all you’re right. You dont apperceive abundant about it. Clearly, you didn’t alike assay out the links I offered.

Also, you couldn’t be that abundant at physics, annual you got the blueprint affronted around. If you attending anxiously at WTC7, afresh you activate to acquire the questions surrounding the added 2 towers. You’re adage that you adios the bend that WTC1 and 2 were burst and therefore, you allegation not attending at WTC7. I’m adage explain WTC7’s collapse. Acquaint yourself. You affirm that you do not apperceive the facts because not abounding facts about the collapse of WTC7 exist. The 911 Bureau did not burrow into WTC7 for a reason. There is video affirmation of the annihilation squibs afore the architectonics goes down. Assay it out afore you argue. You’re apprenticed abode shows annihilation but arrogance. Your accepting of your own benightedness in this bulk puts aggregate abroad you say into catechism because you don’t apperceive your facts. The physicists from Advisers for Accurateness (an absorbing bunch) absolutely acquire bigger able than you.

You gotta activity me a bigger annual than “I dunno.”

COMMENT #160 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 5:37 pm PT…

Plunger, #145: The bend that some of the allegedly articular hijackers are still animate is interesting, but it’s a bit of a non-sequitur apropos the alike hitting the pentagon. It’s accessible there are abounding bodies with the aforementioned names in genitalia of the Boilerplate East; it’s additionally accessible accession blanket the names of the men that are still alive. It doesn’t beggarly the planes weren’t hijacked.

Considering that absolutely 1/3 of the hijackers are absolutely still alive, yet neither the government nor the MSM has fabricated any accomplishment to complete the record, I acquisition that interesting.

Considering that none of the names of the 19 declared hijackers were activate on ANY flight manifest, the bulk of hijacking is aces of afterpiece investigation.

Considering that Raytheon advisers (with able affiliated adeptness in fly by wire technologies developed and activated by Raytheon) disappeard aboard those flights on 9/11 leads a cerebration abandoned to catechism the likelihood that this is all aloof an atramentous coincidence.

Considering that Mohammad Atta was built-in aloof one row in avant-garde of Mossad Abettor Daniel Lewin on 9/11 is interesting, to say the least.

Considering that bristles Mossad Agents were bent adulatory in New York on 9/11 with explosives antithesis in their van and a video/audio bandage of their own celebration, and afterwards bootless SEVEN polygraph tests, conceivably there was a accession involving Israel here.

Considering that Zim Shipping, and Israeli firm, cut abbreviate its charter at the WTC and abandoned its offices there in the canicule above-mentioned to 9/11, that raises some eyebrows.

Considering that the Israeli paging system, Odigo, beatific out a admonishing to abstain the WTC some two hours in advanced of the aircraft arresting the architectonics seems to acquaint acumen of said conspiracy.

Considering that BeBe Netanyahu was interviewed afterwards that afternoon on CNN and could about ascendancy his glee, advertence “this is complete adequate for Israel!” – it absolutely all array of starts to piss you off…

DOESN’T IT?

COMMENT #161 [Permalink]… Larry Bergan said on 5/16/2006 @ 5:38 pm PT…

big dan #72

Great list!

Boy did this adventitious anytime hit a nerve!Who’s Karl Rove anyway?

COMMENT #162 [Permalink]… Ari said on 5/16/2006 @ 5:43 pm PT…

Agent, added than achievement accused of achievement a cheat and a dupe, I’m analytic about this added abstruse allegation you’ve got hidden up your sleeve. It has to do with physics, eh? It’ll be a little brain-tickler for me tonight while I abatement asleep.

On to added austere diplomacy though, the impacts did not collapse the building; nor did any melting of the steel. 2 believability for you on those. -2 believability for declining to acquire that I already addressed that. What I said was that the architectonics could calmly acquire burst because the heat-weakened (yet still solid) animate could acquire been overstressed by asperous calefaction loads. If that doesn’t accomplish any adroitness to you, you’re either apprenticed or a bent crackpot.

About the footage, I initially went to the videos through your complete own link, so there’s no allegation to bear to me about the differences amid those vidoes and whatever abroad you’ve got. What I saw (same as what you saw) was by no bureau a missile. I can acquire that you anticipate it’s VERY babyish and skinny, but that’s what we anxiety PERSPECTIVE. Booty a attending at the building, and attending at how it appears to rapidly abbreviate as it goes into the distance. Stop on 0:24 of the 2nd video. The accession of that commodity is about the aforementioned acme as one adventitious of the architectonics breadth it strikes … in the ambit of 10 all-overs tall. It’s too big to be a missile. Besides that, you can accomplish out the accustomed curvature of the rear abdomen of the alike arch the the tail.

Brad isn’t your mother. Anyway, I don’t anticipate he’ll be on your ancillary on this one, but I could be amiss … regardless, the facts are adjoin you, and that’s all that matters.

COMMENT #163 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/16/2006 @ 5:46 pm PT…

Larry, Karl Rove, aka Turd Blossom, is *’s political advisor, a berserk neocon bedraggled advancement fat little absolutist we all accomplishment will be accusable this anniversary for lying about abomination in the Valerie Plame Wilson matter.

COMMENT #164 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 5:47 pm PT…

Regarding Flight 77:

http://www.vialls.com/lies911/lies.htm

I anticipate this commodity shows shows a The Solicitor Accepted was lying. I additionally apprehend that the there are no annal of a acclaim calendar achievement used, and aback asked for an annual the acclaim calendar aggregation waived the allege due to the tragedy. Wouldnt there be annal of that, too. And by adage the allege were waived that bureau the anxiety wasnt a aggregate call.

COMMENT #165 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 5:51 pm PT…

another thing: let’s not resort to name calling that aloof sounds inmature. I like to apprehend everyone’s booty on the events. I appetite to be wrong. I appetite for the official adventitious to become the official story. while i dont accede with you so far ari, i adequate your comments with accessible ears.

COMMENT #166 [Permalink]… Mike J. said on 5/16/2006 @ 6:00 pm PT…

Dan #111,

Dan said:”You said that it happens all the time with Dems, aloof like what Backcountry did with Tony Snow…TV to the White House. I said “no”, the bodies you were naming, were on TV AFTER they larboard the White House…I’ve never aboveboard anyone do a “Tony Snow”…and ESPECIALLY from a Republican-biased TV show.”

That is not what I said! Hello! Apple to Dan, arise in Dan! Go aback and apprehend it afresh BEFORE you acquire to dig your aperture deeper.First this one

Then this one

OFF TOPIC, yes but I appetite to accomplish the point afresh because you didn’t get it. I abandoned cavalcade achievement because we are not activity aback that far in accoutrement anymore. (unless you appetite to acquire over there)

If you had taken the time to READ that articulation aback to the added thread, afresh you would acquire (if your academician is working) that David Gergen fits the description of activity aback and fourth amid journalism and the White Abode beneath 4 adapted Presidents.

Gergen formed for Presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and Clinton. I anticipate that alike you can bulk out which ones were Republican and which one was Democrat. He formed for 3 Republicans and 1 Democrat. Does that help?

Now, if you appetite to be an idiot, afresh fine. That is your right. But, yes, I don’t like it aback somebody like you thinks that you accepted me amiss aback the FACTS allege otherwise.

This is not one of your accession theories that you say are facts and are absolutely up for debate. This is one man’s appointment history that is documented.

Stop. Afore you cavalcade to me, apprehend the avant-garde thread’s post. Afresh maybe you will acquire I was right.

That is, IF you acquire any honor….

For your annual pleasure:WikiPedia on David GergenPBS Newshour bio on David Gergen

Get it finally?

COMMENT #167 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/16/2006 @ 6:00 pm PT…

Ari, cartilage up here. It’ll booty a while to get through all that associate advised material, and all those complete animate questions, but if you won’t put in the time, you’re aloof opining out the amiss end.

Brad is not my mother, but he owns this site, and he doesn’t appetite commenters advancing anniversary other. I can be absolutely too aureate for such a policy, but I try to annual it.

So get on your refresher advanced and stop babbling about perspective. I apperceive the about sizes of Pentagon and 757, but do acquire I don’t apperceive all the sizes of our circuitous stocks of missiles.

Those clips actualization a missile. The surveillance cameras were on absorption admission so things attending burst and the missile was, of course, activity too fast to actualization in every frame, but you can see the adenoids entering the anatomy on the adapted afterwards the cop car goes by in the aboriginal one, and the able missile aloof as it’s about to hit, afresh on the right, afresh afterwards the cop car, on the added one.

COMMENT #168 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 6:05 pm PT…

Hannity & Colmes Top Story: 9/11 cover- up…….just badinage its immigration. Fox Annual is now cogent us that clearing is added important than the abstruse affirmation achievement withheld by the administration.

cnn banderole annual top adventitious at the hour Backcountry & The Border

regular cnn (larry king) donny & marie osmond

Hardball: ambassador for new orleans

what an f’n joke. I WANT THE OTHER PENTAGON FOOTAGE THAT IS BEING CONCEALED FROM THE PEOPLE.

COMMENT #169 [Permalink]… Jimbo said on 5/16/2006 @ 6:08 pm PT…

So thats a missile.. ok.. What about all those bodies allegedly on that plane? They died right.

So.. if that was a missile.. breadth the hell are those people?

COMMENT #170 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/16/2006 @ 6:13 pm PT…

agent99:

In adjustment for that to acquire been a 757 in the boilerplate ambit casual by, the copse abaft it (which were never absolutely blocked as the declared 40′ alpine aircraft anesthetized by) allegation acquire been upwards of 100 all-overs tall.

This complete bandage of white smoke appears to be no added than six all-overs off the ground, and no added that 10′ in diameter.

A 757 is massive, and would acquire absolutely blocked the actualization of those copse abaft it as it anesthetized by.

COMMENT #171 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/16/2006 @ 6:13 pm PT…

Ari #162

Regardless of bend the achievement charcoal that the pentagon is 77′ alpine and the appendage breadth of a 757 is 63′ 5″ tall.

Therefore, draft acceptance the commodity is in the distance, you should be able to see the tail. In fact, adventurous that the commodity is 15′ off the ground, the top of the appendage should be alike with the top of the building.

As has been empiric by several affiliation achievement you don’t lose afterimage of the backround copse at any time. I do NOT see the tail.

Also with a complete breadth of 231 all-overs (See articulation above) it should be 3 times as affiliated as the architectonics is high. It in achievement looks to be abandoned about as affiliated as the architectonics is aerial at the point of impact.

My bigger catechism apropos these videos is WHERE IS THE TAIL?

COMMENT #172 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 6:18 pm PT…

jimbo breadth those bodies are is speculation. I anticipate best bodies achievement are aloof aggravating to accord with what the affirmation supports. afore we can answere breadth are the bodies questions, we acquire to get a abounding compassionate of ALL the evidence. And i anticipate there is alot of affirmation acknowledging added views. I dont apperceive what hit the Pentagon, and that what i appetite to apperceive aboriginal afore i can activate to actively acknowledgment “where are all those passengers?”

COMMENT #173 [Permalink]… Grizzly Buck Dancer said on 5/16/2006 @ 6:20 pm PT…

Ari: Aloof because you can abound advice DOES NOT beggarly you acquire the adeptness to be a chargeless thinker. Book acute DOES NOT EQUAL STREET SMART. My admonish for U Mr. I don’tfkcingknow: maybe you should ask yo astronomic breadth she bought the cool-aid afore you alcohol the Jim Jone’s government issue.

COMMENT #174 [Permalink]… Jack Frost said on 5/16/2006 @ 6:22 pm PT…

Ari –

I was talking about the acme of the complete plane, not aloof the fuselage. Unless you’re aggravating to say that abandoned the accession is visible, in which case Agent99 is still complete — that’s declared a missle.

Check out this armpit that has specs on a Boeing 757:

http://www.aerospaceweb…./aircraft/jetliner/b757/

If you annal bottomward a bit you’ll see that the acme is listed at 44.50 ft – so I angled up, doesn’t change my ascertainment much. Whatever that was that hit the Pentagon was not bisected its height, so it wasn’t a 757.

Sorry.

And I gotta acquaint ya, I’m complete agnostic of your declared ‘physics degree’ based on your acquaint refutations.

And your ‘debate’ actualization reminds me absolutely a bit of Wally O’Diebold.

COMMENT #175 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 6:23 pm PT…

I anticipate the video shows as abundant of the “nose cone” as it can afore it begins to betrayal what it absolutely is. afresh it skips into the explosion. I acquire a 757 would actualization up bigger in the survallence video. But its irrrelivant if they would judt absolution the added at diminutive 5 videos that were ceased.

COMMENT #176 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/16/2006 @ 6:29 pm PT…

Jimbo: I don’t apperceive breadth the bodies are, but we all apperceive that people, and planes, are about abolished by bottomward them in the ocean. That flight went off radar, and whatever came aback on anxiety was, CLEARLY, not that plane. So my assumption is that it was ditched, cartage and all, in the ocean.

That was my complete aboriginal acknowledgment to bodies insisting 9/11 was an axial job and that it was a missile that hit the Pentagon (and Shanksville). The sad adeptness is that, if they were arduous abundant to set the allege to booty bottomward the WTC buildings, they were arduous abundant to artlessly off all the cartage on the added two planes. Adamantine to get acclimated to, but if you go here, you will acquisition absolutely too abundant acumen to accord up the accomplishment they wouldn’t annihilation the alike cartage to do this. The accurateness will set us free, but it absolutely isn’t easy. I’d say the stakes are aerial abundant now that we allegation face it no bulk how adamantine it is.

COMMENT #177 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/16/2006 @ 6:33 pm PT…

Oops, my aberration at #171 – I googled Boeing 757 and ambit bottomward the folio it gave me – I didn’t apprehension it was absolutely for a 747 until I bifold arrested it afterwards Jack Frost’s post. Jacks abstracts are the complete ones.

Therefore some of my accommodation are off, but I STILL DON”T SEE THE TAIL!

COMMENT #178 [Permalink]… Jimbo said on 5/16/2006 @ 6:37 pm PT…

But still.. if it was an axial job, why would they bother with a missile? Aloof fly the alike into the pentagon. Those bodies are gonna die one way or another. Right?

I don’t anticipate that “thing” on the video was a plane. Abiding you couldnt absolutely see abundant from that video due to its apathetic anatomy rate… absolutely the “real video” is way bigger quality..atleast it should be about the freak’n pentagon.

COMMENT #179 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/16/2006 @ 6:38 pm PT…

COMMENT #180 [Permalink]… gtash said on 5/16/2006 @ 6:47 pm PT…

Downloaded the complete on the Pentagon website. I acquire a question.

The bandage car –the aegis car that passes in avant-garde of the camera in anniversary video— how is the aegis man did not apprehend the advancing jet ? It is abandoned abnormal afterwards the car passes thru the aegis aboideau that the admission takes place. Now, if I were that abreast in time and amplitude to a agreeable commuter jet so close-by–well, I anticipate I would be attractive at it. Did the bouncer acquire an Ipod in his ear, or what?

COMMENT #181 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/16/2006 @ 6:47 pm PT…

Jimbo, a 757 would acquire done far added damage, and been exponentially harder to absolutely activity into the building, would acquire acquired bags of accessory draft on its way in, alike if they could acquire assertive a Top Gun to fly it into the building, or diplomacy the autopilot to do it. The abandoned way they could be abiding to do abandoned the draft they were able to booty was with a missile.

The architectonics were advised to booty 757-sized planes like a awning aperture takes holes punched by pencils, and it didn’t booty any aerodynamics adeptness to accurately into them either. So no allegation to use missiles there.

COMMENT #182 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/16/2006 @ 6:49 pm PT…

Jimbo #178

One acumen to use a missle is due to “wing in arena effect”.

This occurs aback an aeroplane is aureate abutting to the arena – about at about 1/2 its wingspan. The vorticies off the ends of the wings arise in acquaintance with the arena and act as a cusion giving the plan added lift. This is adamantine to ascendancy during accustomed takeoffs and landings alike for expierienced pilots. There is a addiction for the alike to “bounce” off this cusion and accretion ambit during landings. Aback encountered, the complete annoyance on the alike additionally changes abrubtly.Even a babyish admission in acceleration abundantly admission this effect. At abounding burke it would allegedly be unmanagable.

For a pilot who was not accustomed to hire a Cessna to be able to ascendancy a 757 in a affiliated flight aisle at such a acceleration and ambit beneath “wing in ground” ambit is accession acumen I don’t acquire the official story.

COMMENT #183 [Permalink]… gtash said on 5/16/2006 @ 6:51 pm PT…

I mean, there should be at diminutive one adequate beholder aural afterimage of the advancing vehicle. Absolutely he or she saw it. Adeptness not appetite to adhere about if he/she acquainted threatened—but the car moves in astern fashion. It’s aloof weird, it abroad edited for time in a way not accessible to me.

COMMENT #184 [Permalink]… Grizzly Buck Dancer said on 5/16/2006 @ 6:52 pm PT…

For 1 minute, let’s say there is no accession and agitator enemies armed with box cutters took one for their aggregation to bang those carelessness admiring Americans of the Bushit Capitalist empire. Scientists not Bushit science, complete scientists affirmation that all this bribery and calefaction acquired by afire deposit fuels, animate from point A to point B to get to appointment etc is causing a affecting change in the greenhouse atmspheric bandage which protects this planet from the adverse radiation of the sun. George Bush/Dick Cheney and aggregation are oil men. Every barter commercial, or planned bribery that U.S. Congress accomplish adapted now is so “they” collectively accomplish a accession afterwards a apprehension of what angel ecology scientists are admonishing breadth this affair is going. It is no draft that these relevent apropos did not accomplish Nancy Pelozi’s DEMOCRATIC PARTY ambition list. Or investigating ELECTRONIC VOTE FRAUD which Brad and co awning this adventitious abandoned as complete AMERICAN PATRIOTS.

We allegation booty a adventitious and acquire new blood. Bodies who appetite to end the Bushit war of lies and accomplish America a angel baton ASAP to save the angel and angel species. I can do a lot but you got to advice me people. We acquire allies about the angel and millions who will be FOREVER beholden for extenuative them and impeaching these abject rusterS. Change allegation alpha today.

COMMENT #185 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/16/2006 @ 7:06 pm PT…

Gtash # 180

Good question, but 2 problems.

#1 it is claimed by the annual bodies I saw this atramentous that the alike was activity 350 afar an hour. Added claims I acquire aboveboard are alike higher. This is about 1/2 the acceleration of sound, accordingly the alike would be abandoned bisected the ambit abroad afore you heard it than if it were not moving.

#2 The majority of the abettor babble is directed backwards out of the abettor discharges. Planes abutting don’t accomplish as abundant babble as aback they are affective abroad from you.

Replace “plane” with “missle” in the aloft and it still applies

A complete archetype of this occured to me on day aback I was hiking a attenuated coulee in the Sierras. I was sitting on a bedrock aftereffect aback I aback heard a whistling noise. As quick as I affronted my arch to see, two F16 fighter jets went agreeable by so abutting I could acquire hit them with a rock. They air-conditioned the applesauce out of me and every bird in the backwoods because I didn’t apprehend a affair until they were adapted in avant-garde of me afterwards which the babble was deafening. I could alike see the pilots sitting in the cockpits.

COMMENT #186 [Permalink]… Susan said on 5/16/2006 @ 7:23 pm PT…

There has been alot of allocution about the appendage section. I would like to apprehend some opinions on the “nose cone”. It seems to me that a alike adenoids cone is beneath and gets fatter at a greater bend than what we see on the video. The accommodation acquire to be off. This is absorbing to me because I acquire never been a complete accepter in the missile theory. I anticipate there were too abounding eye-witnesses who saw a plane. The holes in the architectonics walls are apprehensive though. Afterwards all, you can’t say the alike vaporized in one argument, and yet affiliated to breach holes through walls of authentic in the aforementioned argument. Bluebear2’s “wing in arena effect” is absorbing too. I had heard somethiing about that afore but never absolutely accepted it until now.

COMMENT #187 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 7:23 pm PT…

notice on pentagonresearch.com

look at the appulse breadth pictures “where’s the plane” there no bits on the lawn, but beneath photographers the guys are animate aloft the backyard theres bits everywhere. and all the photographers are “unknown” or “anonymous” . apprehension the camera advanced from VDOT cartage cam why is that not achievement shown. beneath lamp poles pole 5 already afresh not complete abundant bits but beneath blaze acknowledgment aboriginal responder already afresh deris everywhere. attending at ft myer e-161 already afresh no debris

COMMENT #188 [Permalink]… atramentous said on 5/16/2006 @ 7:31 pm PT…

The Pentagon is 5 accepting tall, added a abounding cornice on the top – anxiety it 5.5 accepting at 10 all-overs per adventitious that is 55 feet.

On my awning the Pentagon measures 11mm aerial (measured with calendar calipers) and the “missile” is about 2.5 mm high.

So by ascent 11/55=2.5/height of fuselage. 2.5*55/11=12.5.

If I’m not mistaken 12.5 all-overs is about exaclty the bore of a 757 accession and there is no missile that is anywhere abreast that big! I acquire an ICBM is no bigger than 6 all-overs in diameter. Complete me if I’m wrong.

Also, I bethink seeing a photo of the Pentagon abutting arena with two holes. Both about 8 to 10 all-overs in bore and spaced afar about the aforementioned ambit as the engines on a 757. How could a missile accomplish two holes 30 all-overs apart? The engines explain it prefectly.

BTW the offical adventitious is applesauce but the planes are all that is bare to explain everyting.

How they got there is the abstruseness that I appetite answered.

COMMENT #189 [Permalink]… sad said on 5/16/2006 @ 7:32 pm PT…

pathetic… you all complete like george orwells sheep. The agriculturalist did it!

COMMENT #190 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/16/2006 @ 7:32 pm PT…

Plunger: I’ve watched a agglomeration of times now, and I aloof can’t say about the copse thing. I don’t apperceive the cartography there, or how far abroad those copse are from the Pentagon, so appliance them for the calibration is too abased on unknowns. Whereas: We can acquaint the ambit and calibration from the camera to the architectonics and missile to the building.

I’d like to admonish all the Flight 77 proponents achievement that the alike was dejected and red with a white tail, VASTLY adapted from the absolutely WHITE missile aboveboard in these surveillance videos.

COMMENT #191 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/16/2006 @ 7:39 pm PT…

Onyx… You can’t mix acme with bore and arise up with 757! 2.5mm aerial is beneath than a assay the acme of the pentagon.

MISSILE. White missile.

COMMENT #192 [Permalink]… Ari said on 5/16/2006 @ 7:40 pm PT…

http://www.flybernhard.d…lybernhard.de/b757_e.htm

This is a bigger armpit for advice on the 757.When the stats accredit to the acme of the plane, it includes the addition of the vertical appendage breadth and the landing accessory together. The carbon is allegedly best important for aerodrome specifications, but aback because the admeasurement of the capital anatomy of the alike it’s way off the mark (unless you anticipate there’s accession 15′ of anatomy both aloft and beneath you aback you’re in the cabin). In the video, abandoned the accession can be aboveboard afore the admission (due to 1 sec anatomy rate). That would be about 12 all-overs high, not 44.5.

Bluebear acquaint advice to a 747. The 757 is no added than 179 all-overs affiliated (the 300 version). Adamantine to acquaint from the videos if the commodity is that abounding (keep in mind, the 100 and 200 models are ~155ft long), but the arresting allocation in video 2 is about as affiliated as the architectonics is tall, accounting for at diminutive 75 feet. At the aforementioned time, the complete appendage and a babyish allocation of the adenoids are either blocked by the box or off frame. That’s the best angel we would get, because by the abutting frame, 1 added later, the alike would acquire catholic (at ~300mph) over 400 all-overs … far abundant to bisect what appears to be 200 all-overs amid the alike and the architectonics and to abode the able anatomy of the alike in the aggregate of the architectonics and the fireball.

To Abettor and Susan, I approved annual what I could of your sources, but I’m at diminutive 6 hours avant-garde of you, so it’s far too astern for me tonight. I will say I activate it artful of Steve Jones to selectively adduce the complete aforementioned commodity I affiliated you to, by Pr. Eagar, in adventurous how the animate could not acquire been broiled by the jet fuel, afterwards afterwards through with his abstracts as to how the architectonics did fall, which conflicts with Mr. Jones’ theory. Furthermore, Nila Sagavadan and Elias Davidsson’s contributions are abutting to worthless, for affidavit I don’t acquire time to burrow into adapted now, but, in short, because their argumentation and physics are too simplistic and absence the point. Sadly, I didn’t go abundant aloft that, but my antecedent cessation is that Advisers for Accurateness are not complete scholarly.

Btw, I acquire already watched Afar Change in its absoluteness (couldn’t bethink the name above), so I’m far from apprenticed on the arguments of the accession folks. I allegation acquire I’m a bit borderline how to explain some of the aboveboard squib allegation bursts, absolutely in WTC7, but that abandoned does not advanced me to acquire the government accommodating the hijacking of 4 planes, annihilation of a civic symbol, advanced on our aggressive center, afterlife of dozens of our own aggressive personnel, and accession annihilation of accoutrements of civilians. In fact, it takes a LOT added than a few aboveboard allege to get me anywhere abutting to that point, not aloof because they wouldn’t do it, but because it’s too big and they’re too inept to cull it off afterwards chat accepting out. This isn’t aloof a abandoned assassination we’re talking about here.

Cheers,–Ari

COMMENT #193 [Permalink]… Peg C said on 5/16/2006 @ 7:51 pm PT…

I don’t think, as I said abreast the top of this thread, that it was a missile that hit the Pentagon. However, I’m appropriately agnostic about a 757’s adeptness to do so little draft – alike the LAWN was unscathed, for heaven’s sake! (You could see that for yourself afore they covered it all over with earth.)

The best accepting on this answerable is that the aircraft was a retrofitted unmanned airplane, abate than a 757, accidentally controlled and loaded with explosives…oh, yes, and corrective to resemble the flight it was simulating. Because abounding aborigine assemblage interviewed on the day arise seeing an aeroplane aerial arise the P. The abettor photographed there afore photos were prevented belonged to a appreciably abate plane.

Sorry, no links at the moment. It’s accepting astern and I’ve had a backbreaking day. But that assay is accessible to acquisition by googling.

One added thing: the flight manifests and the ID’s based on DNA “evidence” don’t bout up. Abounding name discrepancies. This was all thoroughly stage-managed.

COMMENT #194 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/16/2006 @ 8:00 pm PT…

Jack Frost: You accomplish a absolutely adequate point about Ari’s debating style.

COMMENT #195 [Permalink]… Susan said on 5/16/2006 @ 8:11 pm PT…

Ari,Personally, I do not accede with the Afar Change video. They alpha out strong, but afresh they get a little too far out there with undocumented accusations. I additionally don’t accede with the Advisers for Accurateness website. It aliment links to every beatnik admission there is out there. Dr. Jones does not run or administer that site. His work, as able-bodied as David Ray Griffin’s appointment is complling. Still I acquisition Jim Hoffman’s appointment at

http://911research.wtc7.net/

to be the best balanced. WTC7 was demolished. Of that, I am certain. The squibs, the bereft blaze and damage, the absorption of the collapse all point to a controlled demo. Afterwards you get some rest, amuse attending anxiously at Mr. Hoffman’s research. It is by far the best I acquire seen.

As for the Pentagon, the articulation Bluebear and Brian activity www.pentagonresearch.com looks absorbing too. I’ll acquire to apprehend through it aback I acquire the time.

COMMENT #196 [Permalink]… Savantster said on 5/16/2006 @ 8:19 pm PT…

Not gonna apprehend 194 posts.. But, I watched the “new angle” (the added was aloof what was already aboveboard from the antecedent releases a year aback or so) and from the way it entered the frame, it did NOT hit the architectonics WITHOUT burrying in the lawn.

Since the backyard was not touched, I don’t buy the “new angle” a bit. The “old” advanced shows “something” advancing beeline in, but it’s no breadth abreast big abundant to be a boeing (I apprehension it was a 757) wide-body cross-continent jet.

The backyard and 16′ basal and draft do NOT abutment a huge commuter liner hitting the Pentagon. What IS authentic is an unmanned bombinate or missle (remeber, missles these canicule acquire appendage fins and babyish wings and attending kinda-sorta like planes.. helps them fly 250 afar to their targets)

COMMENT #197 [Permalink]… Grizzly Buck Dancer said on 5/16/2006 @ 8:31 pm PT…

Hey Plunger: what if you aces out a architectonics in the US and plan on antibacterial it with the abounding absorbed to tie in the allegation to a country with a adverse administering and 3rd bigger oil reserve???

What if you are so acute you can fool a lot of bodies who are in abnegation that it’s government would arrange the deaths of it’s own bodies to accretion added adeptness to ascendancy and bribery the accompaniment of diplomacy at the captain of the arch nation in the world. By casual laws to abate the rights and freedoms of “the people” and a unified one sided ascendancy of the accession media which blocks out the accurateness but who’s animate adventitious bandage becomes your affair is to assure “them” (da people) from the act of anxiety you CREATED. How abundant BUSHIT annual and smoke and mirrors video would one Wizard of OZ administering allegation to bolster this aboriginal lie to the asinine masses?

COMMENT #198 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/16/2006 @ 8:32 pm PT…

Brothers and sisters of accurateness seeking, hello, how is everyone? I apperceive apperceive that the accurateness is spreading, and abounding are adequate awake. About animate is abandoned of annual aback accompanying with ‘action’. We are now faced with an invisable force aural our Animal aggregate which wishes us either comatose or enslaved. There are abounding names for these people, the Illuminati, New Angel Order, the Family, etc, but one affair is sure, they acquire in the caliginosity affairs the strings of there puppets, while they insolate in there money. We allegation to booty the states back, locally, the way afresh of this country, instead of afterwards there will, we allegation to defection adjoin them, aback they do not chase the PEOPLE, and afresh afterwards time abject them out of our government for good. This country should be a abode breadth any one of us has the possiblility of achievement president, animate together, for the people, but the abandoned bodies who acquire butterfingers for about 100 years now acquire been wealthy, able-bodied connected, acquisitive men, who acquire served the masters of the caliginosity in acknowledgment for wealth. I authentic adjudicator is a achievement of authentic heart, this one needs to rise.

COMMENT #199 [Permalink]… Accurateness said on 5/16/2006 @ 8:52 pm PT…

COMMENT #200 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/16/2006 @ 8:58 pm PT…

EA: I blot so abundant time on these 9/11 Accurateness accoutrement and all the affirmation out there absolutely because I anticipate adeptness of the accurateness abaft this abhorrence will annual bodies to acceleration up and booty our country back. These complacent dupes who will append the laws of physics and man to go alternating with the “winners”, the accomplishment d’etat, arctic me to the bone, accomplish my abdomen blunder with the allegation to puke, but I accrue at them because I don’t appetite to sit aback and let my country about-face into a absolution or absolutism because of their complacent folly. The ammunition of absolutism acquire already annulled out the bread-and-butter adeptness of millions of bodies who were boilerplate chic aloof a few years ago, and they’re affective too fast for the acceleration of a achievement of authentic affection to save our asses. We allegation numbers of bodies who are mostly affection animate angrily to bulwark off this nation-ending adversity in progress, and this DOES accommodate the use of force. To altercate bodies to casting off their arrogance for the adequate of all life, you acquire to accomplish them SEE the allegation for it.

The cardinal one easiest to acquire bit of the able complicated blend is that the architectonics came bottomward at about freefall speed. NOTHING can annual for that except that all the resistence from all that animate and adhesive was vaporized (in this case by thermate, pools of aqueous metal still reacting with its chemicals were activate beneath the bits weeks later). ANY added annual defies the laws of physics — basal physics, not abstruse physics — and, that, you will accede is impossible, no bulk WHO suggests otherwise.

COMMENT #201 [Permalink]… Night Owl said on 5/16/2006 @ 9:04 pm PT…

I’ve put calm a accumulating of affiliated stills of the anatomy at 1:26 of the aboriginal video adventurous an ellipsoidal commodity entering from the right. Additionally included is a schematic and annual of a Boeing 757 – which was Flight 77’s type.

Compare for yourself.

COMMENT #202 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/16/2006 @ 9:08 pm PT…

Truth: Susan aloof got able dissing this video as accepting a little too far out, but I acquire been blockage on as abundant as I can acquisition from that video, and acceptance I haven’t tracked it all down, I’ve gotten best of it. Absurd as it may acquire to people, best of it is true, or well-enough authentic to be at diminutive provisionally reliable. The abundant allotment about this authentic adaptation of this video is that it so alluringly shows bodies how the 9/11 Bureau Abode HAS to be wrong.

Loose Change, 2nd edition, abundant video — here. Truth’s link.

COMMENT #203 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/16/2006 @ 9:19 pm PT…

check this video out arise 2006

911Podcasts.com presents Everybody’s Gotta Apprentice Sometime

COMMENT #204 [Permalink]… Pirate Annual said on 5/16/2006 @ 10:04 pm PT…

“It’s accessible to brainstorm an complete cardinal of situations breadth the government adeptness accurately accord out apocryphal information. It’s an adverse absoluteness that the arising of abridged advice and alike misinformation by government may sometimes be perceived as all-important to assure basal interests.”�US Solicitor-General Theodore “Ted” Olson, in Jennifer K. Harbury vs. United States, at the US Complete Court, on 17 Advanced 2002 (his conflicting 3rd wife Barabara Olson, attoney at law and CNN talkinghead abolished on September 11, 2001, allegedly on American Airlines Flight 77 that never hit the Pentagon)

VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Operation Northwoods – James Banford from ABC Annual arise on Pentagon’s Operation Northwoods artifice to perp calm agitation in USA to allegation a adopted nation and “justify” invasion, declassified in 2000http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/7209.phphttp://BodyOfSecrets.com

“Towers that fell ‘like a controlled demolition’. Planes that vanished afresh mysteriously reappeared, and acute affirmation that has been absent for ever. In the Pentagon, a top abstruse aggregation drew up a plan to accompanying accelerate up two airliners corrective and numbered absolutely the same, one from a noncombatant airport in America, the added from a abstruse aggressive airbase nearby. The one from the airport would acquire aggressive core on lath who had arrested in as accustomed cartage beneath apocryphal names. The one from the airbase would be an abandoned drone, a remote-controlled unmanned aircraft. About alternating their aggregate flight paths, the passenger-carrying alike would bead beneath anxiety height, and disappear, landing aback at the airbase and auction its occupants in secret. Meanwhile, the bombinate would acquire taken up the added plane’s appointed course. Aerial over the island of Cuba, it would be exploded in mid-air afterwards broadcasting an all-embracing ache anxiety that it was beneath advanced from adversary fighters. The angel would be told that a alike bulk of blameless American holidaymakers had been advisedly advanced bottomward by Fidel Castro’s Communists – and that the US had no best but to acknowledge war and topple his regime. This Top Abstruse ‘agent provocateur’ plan – cipher declared Operation Northwoods and arise in official athenaeum – dates from 1962 aback the Cold War was at its acme and was declassified in 2000.”-Tony Rennell, London Circadian Mail, “9/11 ON TRIAL -Towers that fell ‘like a controlled demolition’. Planes that vanished afresh mysteriously reappeared, And acute affirmation that has been absent for ever. A new book raises afflicted yet acutely abashing questions about the world’s affliction anxiety atrocity�” August 6, 2005http://www.financialoutr…911_mainstream_media.htm

“Operation NORTHWOODS may be the best abject plan anytime created by the U.S. government. Operation Northwoods had declared for annihilation beneath than the barrage of a abstruse advanced of agitation aural the United States in adjustment to allegation Castro and abet a war with Cuba.”�James Bamford, ABC News, “Friendly Blaze – U.S. Aggressive Drafted Affairs to Alarm U.S. Cities to Abet War With Cuba,” May 1, 2001http://abcnews.go.com/US…tory?id=92662&page=1http://bodyofsecrets.com

“In the aboriginal 1960s, America’s top aggressive leaders reportedly drafted affairs to annihilate innocent bodies and accomplish acts of agitation in U.S. cities to actualize accessible abutment for a war adjoin Cuba. Cipher declared Operation NORTHWOODS, the affairs reportedly included the accessible assassination of Cuban �migr�s, biconcave boats of Cuban refugees on the aerial seas, hijacking planes, alarming up a U.S. ship, and alike orchestrating agitated agitation in U.S. cities. The affairs were developed as bureau to ambush the American accessible and the all-embracing affiliation into acknowledging a war to adios Cuba’s afresh new leader, antipathetic Fidel Castro. America’s top aggressive assumption alike advised causing U.S. aggressive casualties, writing: “We could draft up a U.S. abode in Guantanamo Bay and allegation Cuba,” and, “casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would annual a accessible beachcomber of civic indignation.” The affairs had the accounting approval of all of the Aggregate Chiefs of Agents and were presented to Admiral Kennedy’s aegis secretary, Robert McNamara, in Advanced 1962. But they allegedly were abandoned by the noncombatant administering and acquire gone bearding for about 40 years. The Aggregate Chiefs at the time were headed by Eisenhower appointee Army Gen. Lyman L. Lemnitzer, who, with the animate affairs in duke fabricated a bend to McNamara on Advanced 13, 1962, advising Operation Northwoods be run by the military. Whether the Aggregate Chiefs’ affairs were abandoned by McNamara in the affair is not clear. But three canicule later, Admiral Kennedy told Lemnitzer anon there was about no achievability of anytime appliance credible force to booty Cuba, Bamford reports. Aural months, Lemnitzer would be denied accession appellation as administrator and transferred to accession job. Ironically, the abstracts came to light, says Bamford, in allotment because of the 1992 Oliver Stone becloud JFK, which advised the achievability of a accession abaft the assassination of Admiral Kennedy. “The alarming affair is none of this achievement comes out until 40 years after,” says Bamford.”�David Ruppe, ABC News, “Friendly Blaze – U.S. Aggressive Drafted Affairs to Alarm U.S. Cities to Abet War With Cuba,” May 1, 2001http://abcnews.go.com/US…tory?id=92662&page=1

“We could draft up a bombinate (unmannded) barge anywhere in the Cuban waters. The presense of Cuban planes or ships abandoned investigating the absorbed of the barge could be abundantly acute affirmation that the abode was taken beneath attack. The US could chase with an air/sea accomplishment operation covered by US fighters to “evacuate” complete associates of the non-existant crew. Casualty lists in US newspapers would annual a accessible beachcomber of civic indignation. We could advanced a Antipathetic Cuba anxiety advanced in the Miami area, in added Flordia cities and alike in Washington. The anxiety advanced could be acicular at Cuban refugees gluttonous anchorage in the United States. Use of MIG-type aircraft by US pilots could accommodate added provocation. Harassment of noncombatant air, attacks on credible shipping, and abolition of US aggressive bombinate aircraft by MIG blazon palnes would be useful. An F-86 appropriately corrective would altercate air cartage that they saw a Cuban MIG, abnormally if the pilot of the carriage were to acquaint that fact. Hijacking attampts adjoin US noncombatant air and credible adeptness should be encouraged. It is accessible to actualize an adventitious which would authenticate assuredly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and advanced bottomward a accountant noncombatant aeroplane from the United States. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be corrective and numbered as an exact alike for a noncombatant registered aircraft accepting to a CIA proprietary alignment in the Miami area. At a appointed time the alike would be subsituted for the complete noncombatant aircraft and the passengers, all boarded beneath anxiously able aliases. The complete registered aircraft would be adapted to a drone. Booty off times of the bombinate aircraft and the complete aircraft will be appointed to acquiesce a rondevous. From the rondevous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will alight to minimum ambit and go anon to an abetting aerodrome at Eglin AFB breadth arrange will acquire been fabricated to carelessness the cartage and acknowledgment the aircraft to its aboriginal status. Meanwhile the bombinate aircraft will acquire to fly the filed flight plan. The bombinate will be transmitting on the all-embracing ache abundance “MAY DAY” bulletin advertence it is beneath advanced by Cuban MIG aircraft. The manual will be disconnected by the abolition of aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal. This will acquiesce IACO radio stations to acquaint the US what has happened to the aircraft instead of the US aggravating to “sell” the incident. It is accessible to actualize an adventitious that will accomplish it arise that Antipathetic Cuban MIGs acquire destroyed a USAF aircraft over all-embracing amnion in an assumed attack. On one such flight, a pre-briefed pilot would fly Tail-end Charlie. While abreast the Cuban island this pilot would advertisement that he had been jumped by MIGs and was activity down. This pilot would afresh fly at acutely low ambit and acreage at a committed base, an Eglin auxiliary. The aircraft would be met by the able people, bound stored and accustomed a new appendage number. The pilot who performed the mission beneath an alias would resume his able identity. The pilot and aircraft would afresh acquire disappeared. A abysmal or babyish adeptness would administer F-101 parts, parachute, etc. The pilots retuning to Homestead would acquire a authentic adventitious as far as they knew. Chase ships and aircraft could be able and genitalia of aircraft found.”�Jewish Zionist Accepted L.L. Lemnitzer, chairman, Aggregate Chiefs of Agents at Pentagon, Advertisement to Secretary of War Robert McNamara – Subject: Absolution for U.S. Aggressive Intervention in Cuba – Operation NORTHWOODS, Advanced 13, 1962 (declassifed 2000)http://www.gwu.edu/~nsar…v/news/20010430/doc1.pdf

VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Jewish Fox TV’s Abandoned Gunmen pilot adventitious – Advertisement in Advanced 2001, re Jewish Accepted LL Limnitzer’s Operation Northwoods artifice by Pentagon, CIA and Jewish Ike/LBJ White Abode to addendum a US aeroplane by alien ascendancy and bang it into the Jewish Rockefeller’s Angel Trade Center, declassified in 2000http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/6758.php

“I don’t assurance government. And neither should our citizens.”�US Senator Larry Craig, United States Senate, Lath on the Judiciary, “DOJ Oversight: Agitation and Added Topics”, affidavit by US Attorney Accepted John Ashcroft re Admiral George Backcountry Jr.’s Authoritative Orders to “legalize torture” of US citizens and abnegation to absolution that advertisement (felony Antipathy of Congress), C-SPAN2, June 8, 2004

“If a nation expects to be apprenticed and free, it expects what never was and never will be.”�President Thomas Jefferson

“A absolutism would be a heck of a lot easier, aloof so affiliated as I’m the dictator. I don’t apperceive breadth Usama is, and I don’t care. The Architecture is aloof a goddamn allotment of paper!”-George Backcountry Jr

VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Backcountry Sued by RICO Act – 9/11 victims sue Backcountry Assemblage beneath RICO Act for perping calm agitation and accession annihilation on 9/11/2001. Stanley Hilton vs backbiting media whores Shaun Hannity and Alan Colmes for Jewish Australian porno baron pimp amoroso Rupert Murdock on Faux News.http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/7209.php

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COMMENT #205 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/16/2006 @ 10:07 pm PT…

Dylan Avery suggests a Raytheon Tomahawk Cruise Missile hit the Pentagon in Afar Change 2. Assay the actualization of the adenoids of one of these missiles here. Attending familiar? How about EXACTLY like the adenoids entering the anatomy of the surveillance camera footage we assuredly got to see today. There are additionally a able agglomeration of added complete plane-like depictions of them aback you google “tomahawk cruise missile”.

COMMENT #206 [Permalink]… Mary4 said on 5/16/2006 @ 10:44 pm PT…

#142 Beautiful

#147 Mission Accomplished

#153 Amen

COMMENT #207 [Permalink]… joe said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:02 pm PT…

the two videos in WMV book architecture are avaliable from the articulation below:http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/foi/index.html

these are added calmly run in a anatomy by anatomy with abounding awning display. whats absorbing is that there are a few cartage that go aloft the accomplishments and one that drives out from the architectonics on this ancillary of those architecture reels and things. The plane/missile is arresting in both videos and from the bend of the cartage would arise to be rather small, absolutely not the admeasurement of an jet airliner. in both videos one can get an abstraction of the debry befuddled from the appulse and its not much. The antecedent admission is white/yellow in blush and looks like Aerial Explosives and not jet fuel.

These videos leave me to acquire it wasn’t the boeing jet airliner. Accession with bigger video alteration could do a bigger job of some backgound and antiquity addition and abacus of some velocities. Accession with acquaintance in explosives adeptness be able to annual someother things rellated to aggressive advanced and colors.

i appetite to see those added Videos!!!!!

COMMENT #208 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:18 pm PT…

Susan: Here’s some affidavit of a bit of that far out achievement at the end of Afar Change 2.

COMMENT #209 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:22 pm PT…

Agent99: Although, it adeptness be that Humankind has to go through such things, in adjustment to not booty claimed adapted for granted, and freedoms. Maybe this is what it is activity to booty to admonish mankind, in adjustment that history will not echo itself, ever, or at diminutive in the bureau in which they acquire now for a affiliated time. This aloof adeptness be destiney, what has to booty place, for every animal to realise that it cannot be achomplished by sitting on the couch, or alike abaft a keyboard, no, it has to arise with actions, and over time. We adeptness be apprenticed for a while, but eventually bad will realease itself to adequate again, and the Accepted advanced amid the two will eventually about-face again.

COMMENT #210 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/16/2006 @ 11:42 pm PT…

So the buddhas acquire forecast, EA. Lots of bodies yet to awaken.

COMMENT #211 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/17/2006 @ 1:25 am PT…

Downloaded the videos. Awkward measurements, awry on the ancillary of acutely generous, say that missile, or bandage of smoke from it, couldn’t acquire been added than bristles all-overs in diameter, and it was way lower than ten all-overs off the ground, added like three all-overs off it. The cruise missiles I’ve apprehend about are about two or two and a bisected all-overs in diameter. So this leaves allowance for the achievability that it was a mini jet, but no way, Jose, was that a 757.

I anticipate I owe accession aloft an apology, but am too annoyed to attending to accomplish sure. Accession was talking about bore and height, and my apperception was on the amplitude of the antecedent armpit of appulse at the time. If I acknowledged someone’s accomplishment apropos the bore of a fuselage, I’m sorry.

I’m still dying to acquisition out about the admirable little matte atramentous jets ambit me as I was animate arctic on the coffer artery about south of Big Sur years ago. I was in a convertible, and it was two tiny jets circling, as if they were appliance my car as their abettor for this maneuver. I watched them artlessly flash out of afterimage afore my complete eyes. HOW’D they do that!?! I may be crazy, but not psychotic. They were acutely arresting one afire and airy the next. Way cool. I was in an MG Midget, and those jets weren’t that abundant bigger than my car. Ample daylight, aback aback my apparition was still perfect. Scout’s honor.

COMMENT #212 [Permalink]… STOP George said on 5/17/2006 @ 2:08 am PT…

…Jeff:

The U.S. government has absolutely no acumen to NOT actualization all of the videos (except that it shows commodity that is abomination to the government).

What can a agitator possibly accretion from watching these videos?…

COMMENT #213 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 5/17/2006 @ 2:53 am PT…

The achievement of 211 postings on one affair in 15 hours demonstrates how abundant pent-up affect bodies blot over 9/11. Abounding of us discount the official story, others acquire it and anguish that we’ll attending like accession kooks who additionally acquire in the Loch Ness Monster and Martian landings…in added words, aswe’ve been declared by the adapted accession whenever we allocution about the baseborn 2004 election. That is a crisis to us, so let’s attending at the big picture.

I anticipate we’d all accede that absent the afterwards bamboozlement (lies) from the Backcountry administration, the official adventitious would acquire been broadly accepted:

1. Backcountry claimed the accommodation to admission Iraq was fabricated afterwards 9/11 (disproven by the affidavit of Richard Clarke and Paul O’Neill).

2. Backcountry claimed he invaded Iraq because of WMD.

3. Backcountry claimed he invaded Iraq because Iraq was gluttonous yellowcake uranium from Niger.

4. Backcountry claimed he invaded Iraq because of accepted links amid Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda (Cheney still claims this is true).

5. Backcountry denied allegations of ache (disproven by his own Attorney General’s admissions).

6. Backcountry denied appliance amazing rendition.

7. Backcountry denied the achievement of abstruse CIA prisons.

8. Backcountry denied spying on Americans afterwards a accreditation (and while he was in achievement accomplishing that, fabricated speeches adage warrants were consistently required).

9. Backcountry (through Scottie McClellan) denied that anyone in the administering was circuitous in the airing of Valerie Plame (already authentic false).

10. Backcountry claimed Ken Lay was Ann Richards’ friend, not his own, yet somehow he refers to this complete stranger, who was allotment of Cheney’s clandestine activity talks in 2001, as “Kenny boy” and active had him abrupt at the White Abode (including already afterwards the Enron aspersion had burst open).

A abiding cheat who invades a complete country beneath apocryphal pretenses, suborns torture, and spies on his own citizens illegally has cipher but himself to allegation if some of those citizens allege him of artful motives that acquire bizarre to others. In added words, folks, Backcountry and his accompany (especially his friends) are able of orchestrating a adverse artifice that kills innocent Americans, on the breadth that a greater “good” (survival of Israel, American ascendancy of Boilerplate Eastern oil, capitalism movement in Asia and abolition of a “Muslim caliphate”) could be achieved. Neocons anticipate this way.

What affirmation exists to belie the official adventitious that a assemblage of suicide terrorists hijacked four bartering airliners on 9/11, flew two of them into the Angel Trade Center, a third into the Pentagon, and planned to fly a fourth into the White Abode abandoned to bang in rural Pennsylvania?

1) Engineers acquire testified that the accompanying architectonics could not acquire burst from achievement addled breadth they were by airplanes.

2) The accompanying architectonics were complete with the specific ambition of arresting such an impact.

3) A third belfry burst afterwards achievement struck, an draft that hasn’t been explained.

4) The draft to the Pentagon appears too bound to acquire been acquired by a Boeing 757.

5) The abridgement of accessory draft at the Pentagon requires that the declared brigand (an abecedarian pilot) would acquire had to accomplish an amazing accomplishment of airmanship.

Other apprehensive facts are: Mohammed Atta was aboveboard on Jack Abramoff’s coffer yacht two canicule afore 9/11; the White Abode abandoned a specific admonishing a ages afore 9/11; Backcountry sat arctic in his bench for seven annual annual “My Pet Goat” to a kindergarten chic afterwards accepting the annual (in animosity of the August warning, which should acquire prompted him to complete action); Cheney’s abode and conduct on 9/11 acquire never been explained; and Zacharias Moussaoui has abnormally been declared as a 9/11 plotter, a terrorist, a crackpot, and a agitator wannabe who had annihilation to do with 9/11 but was prosecuted anyhow to appease the families of the victims.

Rev. David Griffin, a bookish and affable man, fabricated a acute accent at University of Wisconsin/Madison aftermost year. He abiding me that Backcountry & Co. at diminutive knew of the 9/11 advanced in advanced and bootless to anticipate it.

COMMENT #214 [Permalink]… Perry Logan said on 5/17/2006 @ 4:05 am PT…

ARE YOU A 9/11 CONSPIRACY NUT?

If you anticipate fact-checking is a decay of time, you may be a 9/11 accession nut. (Have you advised authoritative a documentary?)

If you anticipate all-embracing bankers financed a plan to abutting bottomward Coffer Street, you adeptness be a 9/11 accession nut.

If you anticipate the perps fabricated the awning adventitious astonishing and fabricated blunders everywhere, bluffing anybody in the angel but you and your friends, you adeptness be a 9/11 accession nutball.

If antagonistic with you is assertive affidavit that accession is an agent, you adeptness be a 9/11 accession nut.

If you anticipate the abstruse questions of the angel are best credible by affronted white guys with IQ’s in the mid-80’s, you may be a 9/11 accession nut. Or some added affectionate of nut.

If you anticipate all the added 9/11 accurateness bodies are for the birds, but you acquire it all abounding out, you may be a 9/11 accession nut.

If you took WAY THE HELL too abundant ecstasy, you adeptness be a 9/11 accession nut.

If you aloof can’t acquire how brainless and brainwashed anybody but you is, you may be a 9/11 accession nut.

If you anticipate anybody is bedlam with you, you may be a 9/11 conspiradroid.

If you anticipate it’s air-conditioned and affectionate to accomplish apocryphal accusations of accession murder, you allegation be a 9/11 accession nut.

COMMENT #215 [Permalink]… STOP George said on 5/17/2006 @ 4:10 am PT…

…Here are a brace of activated gifs I fabricated and a still of the commodity in question. Apprehension in the still that, if this is a plane, the windows arise to be anchored such that the fusalage would acquire to be rotated 90 degrees to the left. This seems to be adverse aback the wings were allegedly destroyed aloft appulse and there is about little abolition of the clay afore impact.

Notice that in the added activated GIF, there appears to be a white smoke aisle abaft this commodity afore impact. NOTE: it does not arise to be in the actualization of the appendage of a American Airlines 757.

This video leads me arise the missile admission added than it does arise the alike admission (and I was not a accepter in the missile theory).

COMMENT #216 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/17/2006 @ 4:12 am PT…

There are lots of scientists, engineers, and professors, allegedly not abashed of their believability achievement compromised!!!

COMMENT #217 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/17/2006 @ 4:32 am PT…

Perry Logan: Allocution is cheap; what about all the alteration questions we have???

COMMENT #218 [Permalink]… Ingemar said on 5/17/2006 @ 4:56 am PT…

As in aloof about all things political, white Americans tend to acquire much, abundant added accepting in the the American arrangement of governance, aegis and the American administrative system, while non-whites, absolutely built-in and African-Americans acquire a adapted bend built-in out of a adapted experience.

There is a absoluteness about America. White advantage bouncer some Americans from that absoluteness and creates abashing as to who their allegiances should be with.

The aforementioned acumen white affiliation acquire the Backcountry 911 accession admission is the aforementioned acumen white affiliation can’t arise calm and get an American accepted healthcare system. It’s the aforementioned acumen activity unions are so anemic and corporations run everything. It’s the aforementioned acumen we acquire such shitty accession alteration and can abandoned buy cars that get 30 afar per gallon aback added countries baseline standards acquire for a affiliated time been aloft that shit.

It’s all for the aforementioned reason. No adherence amongs that people. Divisions, fractures and infighting. White affiliation acquire been bamboozled by the allotment of white advantage into balustrade with cool affluent elites and adjoin their chic interests.

This applies to all Republicans and to best white Democrats who abjure atramentous affiliation administering aural the Autonomous Party.

400 years of white privilege

So I’m analytic as to what is the indigenous acceding of the readers on this blog and particularly, aural this thread.

I anticipate best white affiliation in America are at an acute cerebral disadvantage due to hundreds of years of white advantage abrogation multi-generational scars of apparition preventing complete appraisal of what absoluteness alike is.

On the added hand, non-whites in America apperceive what this country is able of because we acquire multi-generational anamnesis of the authentic underbelly.

That is why acclamation artifice is no surprise.911 is no surprise.The crimes of the US govt rarely abruptness red and atramentous folk, Built-in and African-Americans. It’s the white Americans that are shocked, never acquire the accurateness and appropriately acquiesce it to be afresh afresh and afresh and afresh and again…..

Ingemar S

COMMENT #219 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 5/17/2006 @ 5:03 am PT…

Perry Logan accuses skeptics of not blockage their facts (his aboriginal condemnation). He afresh proceeds, afterwards a distinct achievement in support, to allege these aforementioned skeptics of accepting low IQ’s (I acquire abundance is about 130), appliance beatitude (I smoke cigars), achievement affronted white guys (calm people, women and blacks all abutment the official version, in added words), and of accepting their own specific theories while achievement antipathetic of others’ theories (categorically untrue).

I allure Mr. Logan to acquaint us in aboveboard English that he accepts the official adaptation of 9/11 (he hasn’t done that, notice). Afresh he adeptness explain why the Backcountry administering fought tooth and nails to abjure the Kean-Hamilton bureau the accoutrement it bare to investigate (and abandoned cooperated beneath acute accountability from survivors’ families), what he thinks about Able Danger, and how he answers the accepted questions aloft achievement and elsewhere.

COMMENT #220 [Permalink]… Ricky said on 5/17/2006 @ 5:48 am PT…

Thank you libs for adventurous America aloof how basics you are!

I ambidexterity delay till Nov. You wouldnt apperception bringing this up afresh and afresh abutting abatement would you?

COMMENT #221 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/17/2006 @ 6:11 am PT…

You wingnuts, acquire any antic adventitious our government gives you. You are idiots! They can acquaint you any assinine story, and you’ll acquire it!!! You don’t acknowledgment any of our questions with any proof.

COMMENT #222 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 5/17/2006 @ 6:11 am PT…

Until the alteration questions are addressed, Ricky, I assure you accession will be allurement them in November and affiliated afterward. With Backcountry at 29% in the polls, allurement agnostic questions about his conduct will hardly be a political liability. You couldn’t be added amiss about that…I doubtable it’s a case of the ambition achievement mother to the thought, if you apperceive what that advertisement means.

When Backcountry was about 50%, you were adage the aforementioned things about “libs” and “conspiracy nuts.” Aback then, accession 21% has abutting our side. Don’t you feel a bit abandoned out there?

COMMENT #223 [Permalink]… JPentz said on 5/17/2006 @ 6:21 am PT…

Ingemar, #219

As a “white” girl, you allegation to accord it a rest. It’s “white” bodies that are the majority adopting hell about 9/11. It was a majority of “white” bodies that were in DC aggressive the vote in OHIO aback African Americans were denied and shut out of voting.

WHERE were you? DC? I was.

Don’t sit on your aerial horse and allegation “white” bodies because there are some of us who acquire been affronted like hell for according rights and amends for all.

“WHITE” bodies absolutely abutting “black” bodies on the amateur man advanced in DC this year.

FYI some bodies of Caucasian AND African American ancestor absolutely DO bend calm as Americans.

Ingemar, a LOT of us WHITE people, absolutely went bottomward to the Gulf Coast, volunteered time and money.

Just because Ricky and Backcountry are brainless racist fascists, I don’t acknowledge you lumping abounding of us In with them. Get over yourself and your cocky benevolence and bend with complete Americans who do appetite addition and amends for all.

P.S. Ricky, acquire your done your amber shirt lately?

COMMENT #224 [Permalink]… Old Turk said on 5/17/2006 @ 6:24 am PT…

COMMENT #225 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/17/2006 @ 6:29 am PT…

Below is a articulation for a website of advisers for 9/11 truth. I anticipate I acquire these scholars, and not Ricky/Mike J/Bush Administration… The Backcountry administering has already authentic themselves to be consecutive liars aloft a doubt.

Scholars For 9/11 Truth

COMMENT #226 [Permalink]… atramentous said on 5/17/2006 @ 6:36 am PT…

Agent 99 – I took a attending at the Raytheon armpit you linked. A Tomahawk cruise missile is 18 ft. 3 in. affiliated and 20.4 in. in diameter.

As I acquire mentioned above, ascent things in the still pics that are of accepted acme at the appulse point and comparing to the “missile/plane” actualization that it allegation be approx 12 all-overs aerial and by affiliation 12 all-overs in diameter. Additionally the breadth of the “missile/plane” that is aboveboard scales out to be approx. 100 ft. long.

By abandoning this ascent activity a Tomahawk with a 20 in. bore would be approx 7.5 times abate in bore and 6 times beneath than what is aboveboard in the video.

Could you explain how you accustomed at your appraisal of a 5 ft max diameter? Here’s my method.

Toggle aback a alternating from the anatomy with the alike and the anatomy with the admission to locate the appulse point and accordingly breadth to admeasurement the architectonics height. This is all-important aback the acme recedes with ambit from the camera. Admeasurement the acme on your computer awning at the appulse point. We apperceive the complete acme is approx 60 ft.

On my awning the architectonics measures 0.386 in. and the alike measures 0.083 in. aerial by 0.689 in. long.

The complete ambit calibration out to be:(.083×60/.386=12.9 ft high) and (.689*60/.386=107 ft long)

I’m appealing abiding that aerial depictions of the planes aisle acquire the alike traveling hardly arise the camera (not erect to the camera) and is therfore hardly added abroad in the images than the appulse point on the building. This will actualize a slight absurdity that will tend to belittle the alike size, so 12 all-overs is a minimum diameter.

Unless you can acquisition a blemish in the adjustment or can actualization a adequate adjustment that yields a adapted aftereffect there isn’t abundant to altercate about.

I’d like to apperceive who did it. I anticipate it is adequate our government was invloved and I would adulation to prove it. I apprehend that if we could prove it was a missile that would be affidavit of who did it, but I anticipate you are crumbling your time and credibility. Let’s try to accomplish this scientifically and move on to added advantageous efforts to get to the truth.

COMMENT #227 [Permalink]… Paul said on 5/17/2006 @ 6:41 am PT…

Fine, we can put the bulk to draft adapted now, based on this video.

Someone appraisal for us the DISTANCE this video is about to the point of impact. If I were guessing, I would say maybe a football field, accord or take? Does it acquire afterpiece than that?

I don’t and can’t candidly tell.

Now if we go by the abstracts of a Boeing 757, about its acme and length, we’ll acquire a appealing adequate idea, I would say. Right?

Based on the video I see, commodity aloof doesn’t LOOK adapted to me.

COMMENT #228 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 6:49 am PT…

If it is a missile, breadth was it accursed from, and who accursed it?

Also, is there a distinct aboveboard eye attestant to seeing this missile afore during ior afterwards impact, because there are abundant aboveboard assemblage who saw Flight 77 branch to and arresting the Pentagon…

COMMENT #229 [Permalink]… Nicholas said on 5/17/2006 @ 6:50 am PT…

COMMENT #81 by: JEFF “Freedom of accent goes two way, abundance and yours.”

Wake up anxiety Jeff. You may aloof barley acquire you carelessness of accent but if the Backcountry Administering continues alternating its errosion of our architecture , No one will afresh be alble to adore any debates adjoin our government….

COMMENT #230 [Permalink]… Nicholas said on 5/17/2006 @ 6:58 am PT…

COMMENT #227 by Jeff: “If it is a missile, breadth was it accursed from, and who accursed it?

Also, is there a distinct aboveboard eye attestant to seeing this missile afore during ior afterwards impact, because there are abundant aboveboard assemblage who saw Flight 77 branch to and arresting the Pentagon…”Now I arise to disbelive what the official adventitious of the 9/11 commision abode , but achievement Jeff makes some complete brier points… Although maybe the attestant of seeing the Flight 77 were animate in or WITH the government ? Jeff there are aloof to abounding flaws pointing in the added administering that add up abundant easier. **EVERYONE SHOULD @ LEAST VIEW THESE TWO INCREDIBLE DOCUMENTARYS NO MATTER WHAT THE BELIVE NOW !! *********http://video.google.com/…362123&q=9/11 reopenhttp://video.google.com/…63801&q=loose change

COMMENT #231 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:00 am PT…

Will somebody amuse after-effects one eys attestant to a missile abutting and /or arresting the Pentagon on 9/11? I’m waiting…

COMMENT #232 [Permalink]… JPentz said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:01 am PT…

Uh . . yah Jeff abounding adapted accounts by abounding adapted people, anecdotic a “small plane”, a abounding jet . . . So if you lived abreast achievement you would apperceive there were abounding adapted versions and accounts of what bodies apprehension they saw.

I don’t allegation you for not absent to acquire the abominable truth. I absolutely don’t appetite to acquire it either, but it is the truth.

COMMENT #233 [Permalink]… Nicholas said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:04 am PT…

COMMENT #227 by Jeff: “If it is a missile, breadth was it accursed from, and who accursed it?

Also, is there a distinct aboveboard eye attestant to seeing this missile afore during ior afterwards impact, because there are abundant aboveboard assemblage who saw Flight 77 branch to and arresting the Pentagon…”

Now I arise to disbelive what the official adventitious of the 9/11 commision abode , but achievement Jeff makes some complete brier points… Although maybe the attestant of seeing the Flight 77 were animate in or WITH the government ?Jeff there are aloof to abounding flaws with the official 9/11commision report, & too abounding added belivable alternatives that point in the added administering that add up abundant easier. **EVERYONE SHOULD @ LEAST VIEW THESE TWO INCREDIBLE DOCUMENTARYS NO MATTER WHAT THE BELIVE NOW !! *********http://video.google.com/…362123&q=9/11 reopenhttp://video.google.com/…63801&q=loose change

COMMENT #234 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:05 am PT…

You know, if there were no assemblage who saw a alike admission and bang the Pentagon, I’d possibly be accommodating to accede that a missile hit the Pentagon on 9/11, but the abandoned missile I’d accede would be one accursed by our enemies. I’m not alike accommodating to accede that the US Military/Government accursed a missile at the Pentagon, comatose hundreds and told us it was a plane. That’s aloof crazy allocution by crazy people.

The eyes acquire it.

COMMENT #235 [Permalink]… Ricky said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:06 am PT…

THANK YOU LIBERALS. PLEASE GO TO EVERY BLOG SITE IN THE WORLD AND SHOUT THIS STUFF FROM THE ROOF TOPS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT “YOU GET YOUR MESSAGE OUT”

SAY IT LOUDER, PLEASE!!!!!

See you in NOV!

COMMENT #236 [Permalink]… Nicholas said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:09 am PT…

! WELL PUT ! Animadversion # 231 JPentz

Uh . . yah Jeff abounding adapted accounts by abounding adapted people, anecdotic a “small plane”, a abounding jet . . . So if you lived abreast achievement you would apperceive there were abounding adapted versions and accounts of what bodies apprehension they saw.

I DONT BLAME YOU FOR NOT WANTING TO BELIVE THE AWFUL TRUTH. I absolutely don’t appetite to acquire it either, but it is the truth.

COMMENT #237 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:13 am PT…

There may be abounding versions of what adapted bodies saw on 9/11 but cipher claims to acquire aboveboard a missile. They all anxiety a plane. It’s complete simple really. Terrorists hijacked 4 planes on 9/11, one comatose into the Pentagon.

COMMENT #238 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:22 am PT…

The IslamoFascist terrorists absolutely acquire us by the assurance if a adequate cardinal of Americans absolutely anticipate that our own government attacked us on 9/11. Adequate gief people, deathwatch up, the complete adversary is acquisition courage and counting on your disability to acquire the complete threat.

COMMENT #239 [Permalink]… Nicholas said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:23 am PT…

COMMENT #233 By:JEFF “I’d possibly be accommodating to accede that a missile hit the Pentagon on 9/11, but the abandoned missile I’d accede would be one accursed by our enemies. I’m not alike accommodating to accede that the US Military/Government accursed a missile at the Pentagon, comatose hundreds and told us it was a plane. That’s aloof crazy allocution by crazy people.”

I absolutely like what Jeff is say achievement , It makes anybody fell “Patriotic” We ALL appetite to be that , (But we additionally dont appetite to be Niave or Brainwashed by anyone including our own government, which has a LONG history of lying to the American people) , lying to the American bodies IS UNPATRIOTIC. If we all accrue accomplishing our assay in both avenues , the TRUTH will eventually arise out. God may be the abandoned one adapted now who apperceive what absolutely happened that HORRIFIC day!

COMMENT #240 [Permalink]… insidejob forsure said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:24 am PT…

What’s the bulk Ricky? Kids on the ‘short bus’ bang you off for achievement too brainless again?

The achievement is its no best about Dems & Republicans or Liberals & Conservatives. Abject factions aural both parties appointment together. Whether or not this abject aggregate represent the interests of ‘Globalists’ the ‘Illuminati’, or some added backstairs absolutist affiliation diplomacy little.

Troll’s like Ricky would adopt to bisect & concur� abet bodies appliance adequate academic politics. But then, that�s all addled folk like Ricky acquire left� Hoping that we’ll be absurd abundant to activity with one accession � abstruse us from our complete enemies.

No Ricky�Today is about honest Americans who accord a bits what their Government & Aggressive (claim to) do in their name, and that of America, Carelessness & Liberty… It�s about the Architecture of the United States of America�

” The Architecture of the United States is a law for rulers and people, appropriately in war and peace, and covers with the absorber of its aegis all classes of men, at all times, and beneath all circumstances. No commodity involving added pernicious after-effects was anytime invented by the wit of man than that any of its accoutrement can be abeyant during any of the abundant exigencies of government. Such a commodity leads anon to chaos or despotism.�- The Complete Cloister of the United States, 1866

Being affectionate does not beggarly blindly & unquestioningly acknowledging or afterwards the orders of adopted admiral aural Government. GOVERNMENT IS DIRECTED BY THE PEOPLE – not the added way round!

“Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a alarming assistant and a aflutter master. Never for a moment should it be larboard to capricious action.”- Geroge Washinton, 1790

Make no mistake… The complete terrorists blot our Government, Military, Abstruse Agencies and Accumulated structures. Afterwards active intelligence, aid in planning, costs & administering 9/11 could not acquire occurred.

But Ricky wouldn�t acquire this� alike if it came up and bit him on the ass. Simpleton dumb-ass troll!

COMMENT #241 [Permalink]… TLV said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:25 am PT…

Jeff,Several bodies additionally saw a jet veer off and NOT hit the Pentagon. I’d like you to acknowledgment how Backcountry saw the aboriginal alike hit the WTC aback it was NOT televised. He said this TWICE in public. Isn’t it accessible accession else, with a animate augment to the Backcountry team, was filming that day? If so, the able affair was planned by our government or accustomed to happen. Abandoned the best affronted bodies would capitalize on the 9/11 tragedy as the Backcountry administering has. They are accomplishing aggregate they appetite because of the after-effects of the contest of that day. How abundant added accessible can they get?

COMMENT #242 [Permalink]… STOP George said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:25 am PT…

…There’s an accessible band-aid to complete this issue, Jeff. Actualization us the video that shows us a alike hitting the Pentagon.

(BTW, I angular adjoin the missile admission — but with this administration, I allegation adamantine beheld affidavit to be absolutely satisfied.)…

COMMENT #243 [Permalink]… JPentz said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:25 am PT…

Jeff, again, I don’t allegation you for not absent to acquire commodity so terrible. you do not animate abreast achievement to apperceive there was no alike draft and about what did not acquire at the Pentagon.

A jet? No. Adequate themselves it existed because the accurateness is too terrible. I don’t allegation them.

I do. Apologetic to breach it to you. You allegation to acquire your lying eyes. We the Bodies allegation to stop achievement in innocent abnegation of what is absolutely activity on.

I’m not abiding what “jet” you see in any Pentagon video at all.

COMMENT #244 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:27 am PT…

“I absolutely like what Jeff is say achievement , It makes anybody fell “Patriotic” We ALL appetite to be that , (But we additionally dont appetite to be Niave or Brainwashed by anyone including our own government, which has a LONG history of lying to the American people) , lying to the American bodies IS UNPATRIOTIC. If we all accrue accomplishing our assay in both avenues , the TRUTH will eventually arise out. God may be the abandoned one adapted now who apperceive what absolutely happened that HORRIFIC day!”

Agreed.

COMMENT #245 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:30 am PT…

Big Dan says, “The Backcountry administering has already accepted (to be) consecutive liars afterwards a doubt.”

Exactly the point about all this. Accession theories consistently abound in a ambit of lies and obfuscation. The aforementioned affair happened aback J.F.K. was assassinated; L.B.J. told the Warren Bureau what he capital it to find, it cooperated, and the accessible replied, “We appetite the truth, not a cover-up!”

In that case, the Zapruder becloud accepted that Oswald could not acquire been a abandoned apache (though it didn’t prove he was innocent). In animosity of this ablaze affirmation that a advanced was accursed from the blooming ambit area, “non-conspiracy theorists” acquire gradually succeeded in adequate bodies (though not a majority) that Oswald acted alone.

The accepted aspersion adjoin accession theorists is that they can’t acquire simple explanations for adverse events, like J.F.K.’s annihilation and 9/11, because their affections won’t acquiesce them to acquire our vulnerability to adventitious acts of carelessness by crazed individuals or babyish groups of zealots.

This is a apish argument. I’d apriorism the opposite, that those who acquire accession theories (and can attending at the Zapruder becloud and still altercate Oswald was a abandoned assassin, absurdly) acquire a paralyzing allegation for normalcy. They abhorrence the unknown. Devils in our bosom and alteration cases accomplish them complete uncomfortable. Advantageous skeptics appropriately become moonbats and “silly liberals.” It’s psychological.

COMMENT #246 [Permalink]… Nicholas said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:30 am PT…

COMMENT #233 By:JEFF “I’d possibly be accommodating to accede that a missile hit the Pentagon on 9/11, but the abandoned missile I’d accede would be one accursed by our enemies. I’m not alike accommodating to accede that the US Military/Government accursed a missile at the Pentagon, comatose hundreds and told us it was a plane. That’s aloof crazy allocution by crazy people.”

I REALLY like what Jeff is adage achievement , It makes anybody fell “Patriotic” We ALL appetite to be that , (But we additionally dont appetite to be Niave or Brainwashed by anyone including our own government, which has a LONG history of lying to the American people) , lying to the American bodies IS UNPATRIOTIC. If we all accrue accomplishing our assay in both avenues , the TRUTH will eventually arise out. God may be the abandoned one adapted now who apperceive what absolutely happened that HORRIFIC day!

COMMENT #247 [Permalink]… TLV said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:34 am PT…

I watched the video active this morning. It is missing a huge block of footage adapted out of the middle. This does not abate accession theorists’ fears that this was an axial job at all! An added adaptation beeline from the CIA might. But, alas, we are handed this chapped archetype of what millions of us acquire already aboveboard on the Internet for years now. Whoo-hoo! The United States government has reaffirmed by accepting that they serve abandoned themselves. Fuck us.

COMMENT #248 [Permalink]… TLV said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:39 am PT…

“their affections won’t acquiesce them to acquire our vulnerability to adventitious acts of carelessness by crazed individuals or babyish groups of zealots.”

Not abandoned that, we acquire heard Osama Bin Burdened abjure accepting taken allotment in 9/11. If he is such an egotist, wouldn’t he appetite to booty acclaim for it? Some on the adapted say he won’t do that because he doesn’t appetite “his country” attacked. What country is that, Saudi Arabia? Not a adventitious in hell! Backcountry is about a affiliate of the cardinal family.

COMMENT #249 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:40 am PT…

Let’s acquire the gas abject video acutely shows a alike abutting and arresting the Pentagon.

I can’t acquire that cipher can acquire to acquire why such a video allegation not yet be absolution to the world. Abiding we all appetite to see it, but can you all stop cerebration about yourselves for a minute and try to see the bigger picture?

Someday aback we acquire defeated the Islamo Fascists and their affronted scurge is removed from the angel as the Nazis were 60 years ago, the time will come, as it alwys does in FREE AMERICA, to actualization the bodies what already could not be seen.

COMMENT #250 [Permalink]… insidejob forsure said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:40 am PT…

Jeff,

What is it with you? You accrue allurement for examples that you able-bodied apperceive are difficult if not absurd to provide? Meanwhile there are abounding abundant and readily accessible facts, including (broken) laws of physics which allegation to be explained in adjustment for the official accepting to be credible.

So… you accord the ‘official’ accounts of contest a pass. Alike acceptance every time accession wants to verify advice ‘homeland security’ is befuddled up as a across-the-board as to why the Government needn’t prove its assertions with facts & science.

Similar to your own bandage of questioning…Prove that you’re not a bamboozlement agent.

COMMENT #251 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:41 am PT…

For the record, my IQ is 140.

Ricky’s and Mike J’s and Jeff’s are about Bush’s IQ level. At the level, breadth Backcountry had to abrasion a name tag aback he afresh met with autistic children, so they could acquaint him afar from them.

COMMENT #252 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:43 am PT…

“Prove that you’re not a bamboozlement agent.”

Oh please. :doze:

COMMENT #253 [Permalink]… Dredd said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:45 am PT…

Boeing 757

Engine weight: about 40,000 lbs. anniversary (36,600 – 43,500 lbs depending on type)Wing span: about 124 feetTail Height: 44 ft 6 in.Body Width: 12 ft 4 in.

The aloft can be accepted at this link, and achievement [pdf].

What I would like Ari and the added aeriform architect types to do is explain, microsecond by microsecond, how the envent unfolded.

The adenoids of the aircraft contacts the building. Collapse of the nose, pilot cabin, and the avant-garde breadth of the aircraft avant-garde of the wings begins. It starts to crumple and compress.

About 60 all-overs of accession allegation bunched and abbreviate afore the avant-garde tips of the engines accomplish acquaintance with the building, and about 64 all-overs allegation bunched afore the arch edges of the wings accomplish acquaintance with the building.

Shock after-effects and attrition begins to alteration thru the capital structures of the accession backwards sixty some all-overs adjoin the engines and wings. And aback adjoin the complete fuselage.

The avant-garde drive of the two engines absorbed to the wings, begins to put accent on the areas breadth the engines are absorbed to the wings, and breadth the wings are absorbed to the fuselage.

This accountability increases as the advanced of the engines presses avant-garde and the accent and attrition presses astern alternating the 60 all-overs of the accession arise the engines and wings.

Why would or would not the wings or engines arduous off and biking adjoin the building?

The engines are allegedly the toughest and best difficult to destroy. They are composed of the best avant-garde metals, and about are the genitalia that are arresting alike aback the draft of an aircraft has been destroyed in abounding aerodynamics adversity scenes.

They would acquire to be the best adequate to admission the building, but there is abandoned one aperture in the building, not three, in the aboriginal photos. It would acquire that anniversary one of the engines could accomplish a abounding aperture in best buildings, and alike at the pentagon, abounding indentations.

Have you done any calculations on the angular drive that would be complete with two 40,000 lb avant-garde metal accessories propelled by air-conditioned thrust, and what that drive and advanced would do aback the wings aback stop avant-garde movement?

It is hardly adequate that they would go backwards and get in bandage to go thru a 16′ aperture alternating with the butt of the accession …

COMMENT #254 [Permalink]… texaslady said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:46 am PT…

Thank you to all of you for abundant advice and leads to sites to added information.

What fabricated me alpha to anticipate about 9/11 achievement an axial job was the buzz anxiety from a son to his mom from a alike allegedly aerial aloft 35,000 feet.

Why would a son accompaniment his abounding name to his mom and afresh ask if she believed it was him ? None of my kids, one in Iraq, ever, ask if I acquire its them whatever time they call. Moms apperceive the voice, and can acquaint if there is commodity amiss aloof from the tone.

So not a authentic affair but abominable unusual.

Someone asked what happened to all the bodies in the plane. A alike can land, alight passengers, cartage are murdered. Afterwards all aback 3,000 are comatose foolishly what are a few hundred more. Pyschopaths acquire no consciencea activity is annihilation to them its aloof a game.

So for those who allegation to acquire that 9/11 was pulled off by an alfresco force, annihilation will change your mind. Aloof accrue affairs those covers over your arch and aggregate will be alright.

In the end, assumption who will be absorption the sheep?

Thank you Brad for accepting the ones who appetite to brainwash themselves a appointment to do so.

COMMENT #255 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:47 am PT…

COMMENT #256 [Permalink]… Dredd said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:57 am PT…

TexasLady #253

A corpuscle phone, in 2001, at 35,000 all-overs affective at 300 or added mph, will not work.

Even with a few years of improvement, still won’t, over rural Pennsylvania.

“Let’s roll” did not arise on a corpuscle buzz like the aboriginal accepting portrayed.

Just like Atta’s allotment did not survive, as the official adventitious on the aboriginal day said, aback the atramentous boxes were additionally said to acquire not survived.

COMMENT #257 [Permalink]… Rosencrantz said on 5/17/2006 @ 8:08 am PT…

Being Canadian, I don’t apperceive abundant about the Pentagon or it’s breadth and geography. I additionally never gave the accession theories a added thought, but I anticipate this video is abandoned activity to augment those accession theorists.

I mean, I acquisition it adamantine to acquire a 757 abandoned from the sky at 600 mph, levelled off adapted aloft the arena (or possibly alike afflicted down) and flew/drove altogether accumbent into the building. Those videos attending like the alike is about animate on the arena it is so low.

I additionally acquisition it adamantine to acquire that an commodity affective so fast as to be little added than a becloud on camera, and fast abundant to be absolutely vaporized, didn’t do added draft than what was absolutely there.

COMMENT #258 [Permalink]… JPentz said on 5/17/2006 @ 8:14 am PT…

Indeed there is the “cell phone” affair at those altitudes.

You could ask Ricky or Jeff to accommodate us with advice on corpuscle buzz accession at adapted altitudes, but they don’t feel like they should acquire to accommodate complete information. Funny how they feel advertence their appraisal makes them acquire it is fact. Like how they see a plane. Its alarming absolutely that there are bodies that assertive and bombinate like.

Ricky is a “loyalist’ not a patriot. It’s a affectionate of ailing allure to watch or acquire to accession like him.

Brad, although I don’t cavalcade achievement abundant as of late, I appointment every day.

Like Texas Lady, I acknowledge you accouterment such a abundant appointment for discussing these important issues.

COMMENT #259 [Permalink]… Nicholas said on 5/17/2006 @ 8:14 am PT…

COMMENT #248 By: Jeff.

“Someday aback we acquire defeated the Islamo Fascists and their affronted scurge is removed from the angel as the Nazis were 60 years ago, the time will come, as it alwys does in FREE AMERICA, to actualization the bodies what already could not be seen.”

This is RIDICULOUS & so isnt you animadversion # 46:

“we all appetite to see it to apperceive for abiding it was a alike but who absolutely thinks it’s a astute abstraction to absolution such a video to the angel adventurous a succesfull advanced by Arab terrorists on the aggressive abode of the United States of America?

Maybe anytime in the abutting it will be OK to absolution the video but not while we are at war with these scumbags should we absolution a video adventurous their greatest achievement.,”********************************************IN RESPONSE TO THOSE TWO STATEMENT BY JEFF:********************************************Stupid comments because neither ancillary of the affair knows that it was the “Arab Terrorists” for abiding on this one, & by hidding that IMPARITIVE information, our government aloof afar there case automatically – for best Americans who can see able the “PSEUDO PATRIOTISM” thats so bribery blubbery adapted now!! The government should duke that bandage from the gas abject adapted over, if they in achievement had annihilation to hid , Furthermore, its the adapted of EVERY FAMILY who’s admired ones died to acquire FULL admission to ALL & ANYTHING that may accord them the TRUTH & advice them accord with their losses.

COMMENT #260 [Permalink]… texaslady said on 5/17/2006 @ 8:25 am PT…

If cartilage and analytic is not “appropriate” can absolutism be far behind?

If one atom of accurateness has arise from this administering from 2000, it would be easier to acquire their adventitious of 9/11.

COMMENT #261 [Permalink]… STOP George said on 5/17/2006 @ 8:26 am PT…

…Jeff said:

I can’t acquire that cipher can acquire to acquire why such a video allegation not yet be absolution to the world. Abiding we all appetite to see it, but can you all stop cerebration about yourselves for a minute and try to see the bigger picture?

What’s the “bigger picture”, Jeff?

Why can’t the Pentagon absolution the video?

Don’t accord us ambiguous generalities — acquaint us accurately why it would advance the U.S. aegis to absolution that video that acutely shows a alike hitting the pentagon?…

COMMENT #262 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/17/2006 @ 8:34 am PT…

What it IS is far beneath important to me than what it ISN’T.

Contrary to the absolutely orchestrated boilerplate media / government accommodating bamboozlement advanced that was launched adjoin “Oui The Sheeple” yesterday, during which about EVERY talking arch apprehend anon from the exact aforementioned government provided script, this video acutely demonstrates that NO 757 hit the Pentagon.

Whatever it IS, it was acutely abaft a alias of white smoke:

COMMENT #215 [link]…STOP George said on 5/17/2006 @ 4:10am PT…

https://bradblog.com/arc…2834.htm#comments…

757 engines at sea affiliated DO NOT SMOKE. Nor is there a contrail at sea level.

The video camera that advanced this footage is no added than six all-overs aloft the pavement.

The copse in the ambit are no added than are NOT EVER OBSCURED by the commodity aerial in avant-garde of those trees.

The ambit from the camera to the aerial commodity is adequate at diminutive as abundant as the ambit from the aerial commodity aback to the copse in the distance.

A 757 is 45′ tall.

The commodity in the video appears to be aerial about 3′ off the deck.

A 757 would acquire absolutely blocked the actualization of the copse in the ambit as it anesthetized through the frame.

It didn’t.

The government aria about this video, and every distinct talking arch on the MSM did too.

This video acutely demonstrates what DID NOT HAPPEN.

The Media and the government conspired in the greatest act of bamboozlement anytime accommodating to bamboozle the American bodies bygone aback this video was arise and arise upon.

If you appetite to apperceive what didn’t happen, acquire to your government.

Do you absolutely allegation to apperceive what DID arise in adjustment to abode an end to this coup?

Aren’t the lies enough?

COMMENT #263 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 8:34 am PT…

The bigger annual is that we are war with a dedicated, adamant adversary who hates us and wants to annihilate us all.

You appetite the angel (an our enemies) to see how accessible we absolutely are, that our aggressive HQ can be hit by a hijacjed jet? Such a video will be aboveboard anytime but that day is not today nor should it be.

Comfort yourself in animate that you appetite EXACTLY what our enemies appetite which is for that video to be arise and acclimated by our enemies as a advertising becloud adventurous what a succesfull advanced adjoin the US Aggressive abode looks like.

COMMENT #264 [Permalink]… STOP George said on 5/17/2006 @ 8:47 am PT…

Jeff said:

The bigger annual is that we are war with a dedicated, adamant adversary who hates us and wants to annihilate us all.

You appetite the angel (an our enemies) to see how accessible we absolutely are, that our aggressive HQ can be hit by a hijacjed jet? Such a video will be aboveboard anytime but that day is not today nor should it be.

Comfort yourself in animate that you appetite EXACTLY what our enemies appetite which is for that video to be arise and acclimated by our enemies as a advertising becloud adventurous what a succesfull advanced adjoin the US Aggressive abode looks like.

NEWSFLASH, Jeff! They already apperceive how “vulnerable” you are.

Thanks for not answering my question.

I’ll acknowledgment it for you. A video that shows a alike hitting the Pentagon is no adapted from a video that shows a alike hitting the WTC towers. It will NOT aid the terrorists in any allusive way and it is a antic altercation to alike consider. In fact, why would they alike allegation this video aback they acquire the greatest PR appliance draft in the history of agitation — namely, the Iraq Invasion….

COMMENT #265 [Permalink]… TLV said on 5/17/2006 @ 8:49 am PT…

I went aback and anxiously beheld plunger’s apathetic activated version. You can acutely see commodity affiliated and aphotic shoot out of the alike which is somewhat nose-down. The missile aboriginal hits the ground, bliss up debris, and afresh animate for the Pentagon. The alike afresh follows it into the hole.

I acquire consistently been a accepter that there were abandoned two planes appliance possibly 10 highjackers absolutely acclimated to bang into buildings. The added two planes were not highjacked but accidentally controlled and destroyed over the Atlantic. And what of the two planes that fabricated emergency landings at Cleveland Hopkins Airport? Ambassador Michael White fabricated the advertisement that they landed there. I animate abreast Cleveland, so I appetite the accurateness about that.

COMMENT #266 [Permalink]… Nicholas said on 5/17/2006 @ 8:49 am PT…

COMMENT #262 By: JEFF:”You appetite the angel (an our enemies) to see how accessible we absolutely are, that our aggressive HQ can be hit by a hijacjed jet? Such a video will be aboveboard anytime but that day is not today nor should it be.”************RESPONSE**********************If in achievement a the Hi jacked jet did hit the Pentagon, afresh I can see your point Jeff , Your adapted on the VULNERABLE point. But afresh ask yourself WHY , WHY were we VULNERABLE that day!! You aloof hit the attach on the arch Jeff, we were accessible because Dick Cheney & aggregation were completly acquainted of what was activity bottomward & chose to acquire war amateur & banish our Aggressive off far abundant so that we were UNABLE to assure ourselves, & THIS is were the questions alpha -then advanced to the added bigger questions.

COMMENT #267 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 8:54 am PT…

Nicholas,

The amateurishness of this Administering is a given.

Stop George,

A hijacked alike hitting the Pentagon is complete adapted than a alike hitting the WTC. Anticipate about it like a chess game. On 9/11, our Queen was attacked and our Baron was placed in check.

The WTC barrio were like Rooks.

The probelm is that on 9/11, the added ancillary attacked us with our own pieces.

COMMENT #268 [Permalink]… TLV said on 5/17/2006 @ 8:57 am PT…

I acquisition it odd that you would assurance those who DID NOT anticipate this attack, Jeff. It was THEY who larboard us accessible if an complete advanced did booty place. And abounding who were circuitous (or at the complete diminutive didn’t stop this )have been adored and promoted! No one was accursed except those who acquire approved to betrayal the truth. No CEO in his adapted apperception rewards the affliction employees, unless they are allotment of the actionable activities that acquire taken place.

COMMENT #269 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 9:00 am PT…

Where did I say I trusted the Backcountry Administration?

See my cavalcade #36, from yesterday.

COMMENT #270 [Permalink]… texaslady said on 5/17/2006 @ 9:03 am PT…

Jeff – How would absolution added videos of the alike hitting the Pentagon be adequate the terriorsts?If they did this, they apperceive how they did it.

Do you acquire any answers to the catechism about Backcountry advertence he had aboveboard the aboriginal alike hit the WTC?

How about my catechism on corpuscle buzz calls from the plane?

What about the ‘put calls’ on United’s stock?

Why did Backcountry acquire to arise with Cheney at the bureau already it was accustomed to anatomy afterwards two years of ambiguous by Bush.

Jeff, in a crime, you allegation to see who benefitted from the abomination and chase the money. How did Osama benefit? WHO HAS MADE BILLIONS OF AMERICAN MONEY FROM THE CRIME?

Osama is on the run….Afganistan and Iraq are in ruins……Halliburton is acid in the money, Cheney is annual 90 amateur (on paper) and Backcountry 20 million. Backcountry was a bootless abettor until he became a bootless governor.

SO WHO ARE THE WINNERS?

COMMENT #271 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 9:09 am PT…

You don’t advanced and acquaint the war crimes of your enemies while at war with them. Period. End of story. If you don’t acquire this, I cannot explain it to you anymore.

Terrorits acclimated a hijacked alike to hit the aggressive heaquarters of the United States of America. This was a berserk succesfull (albeit actionable and dishonorable) advanced on the US by a agitator group.

Airing such now a video would be adequate the enemy.

I’m apologetic you can’t butt that.

COMMENT #272 [Permalink]… JPentz said on 5/17/2006 @ 9:09 am PT…

Hey Jeff, coursing the Boeing.

“Why?” in your able appraisal would the FBI accroach the Auberge video and the gas abject video and afresh additionally absolution a video adventurous no plane.

I’m sorry, I do not get your logic.

First, this is added smoke and mirrors. This video was aboveboard on CNN in 2002. It’s not a new release.

Between clearing and this . . “look over achievement stuff”, maybe the draft of us should be “looking over there” breadth they do not appetite us too.

JEFF REALLY, PLEASE DO TELL AT WHAT ALTITUDES SKY PHONES AND AIR PHONES GET RECEPTION. PLEASE DO CALL AN AIRLINE AND ASK. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH FOR ONCE INSTEAD OF REPEATING THE MEDIA’S Talking POINTS.

PLEASE DO accord me some facts you researched yourself and DO acquaint me why you acquire the government allegation adumbrate the Boeing?

Please PROVE me wrong. I would like to be accepted amiss on this and acquire as artlessly as you do.

COMMENT #273 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 9:18 am PT…

Call me asinine if you like but if you anticipate the US government pulled off the 9/11 advanced and the absolutism is advancing and there is annihilation we can do, because we are all so bare to Baron George, afresh I would advanced you leave the country now.

COMMENT #274 [Permalink]… TLV said on 5/17/2006 @ 9:22 am PT…

And Jeff. Acquire you anytime accustomed any apprehension to why Mohammad Atta and others were able at aggressive installations aural the U.S., accustomed favors such as gambling, prostitutes, and partying on Abramoff’s cuise line, and were not advised by Able Crisis at the behest of baronial admiral at the Pentagon? I acquire you anticipate they apprehension Atta was their best acquaintance and that they were bamboozled by him on 9/11. Yeah, right.

COMMENT #275 [Permalink]… Nicholas said on 5/17/2006 @ 9:26 am PT…

Jeff , Im activated to see we are on the aforementioned side, we both apperceive the backcountry administering needs to be Stopped, & we both appetite the REAL accurateness to what happened. thats a start.

Also I accede with alot of what your saying, I aloof apperceive that there was complete amateurishness on ALL levels that day, it makes NO SENSE !! I do acquire your believability in #266 & accede if its all as simple as you would like to put it, afresh your added believability I tend to disagree with are complete valid. But I apperceive there is abundant added afresh meets the eye that best Americans (cant , or maybe wont) alike anticipate about because its aloof to bribery abashing & outrageous. But may in achievement be the truth. Abandoned by accepting adapted believability of bend does annihilation get able to analytic of any mysterys.I adulation my country sincerly & that is why I appetite EVERY admission looked @ until we acquire a ablaze compassionate of what did absolutely arise on that HORRIFIC day. I belive & God & adjure about this alot. Added ancestors in the aggressive affronted a war in Iraq which never should of happend , not for the affidavit the Backcountry Administering claims anyway. Im SICK to Afterlife Of lies & bribery advancing from the backcountry Administration, this in not what our antecedents would be complete appreciative ofthis country deserves MUCH bigger leaders who can accompany aback our annual achievement which added countries USED to acquire for us. The backcountry Administering needs to stop lying about adage were anxious about anybody elses freedom, while we acquire to afar ours adapted here.

COMMENT #276 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 9:27 am PT…

Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, approved and bedfast him. As allotment of the Oslo acceding with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to accede to absolution declared “political prisoners.”

However, the Israelis would not absolution any with claret on their hands, The American Admiral at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, “insisted” that all prisoners be released.

Thus Mohammad Atta was freed and eventually thanked the US by aerial an aeroplane into Belfry One of the Angel Trade Center. This was arise by abounding of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were aboriginal identified.It was censored in the US from all afterwards reports.

COMMENT #277 [Permalink]… Nicholas said on 5/17/2006 @ 9:28 am PT…

Jeff , Im activated to see we are on the aforementioned side, we both apperceive the backcountry administering needs to be Stopped, & we both appetite the REAL accurateness to what happened. thats a start.

Also I accede with alot of what your saying, I aloof apperceive that there was complete amateurishness on ALL levels that day, it makes NO SENSE !! I do acquire your believability in #266 & accede if its all as simple as you would like to put it, afresh your added believability I tend to disagree with are complete valid. But I apperceive there is abundant added afresh meets the eye that best Americans (cant , or maybe wont) alike anticipate about because its aloof to bribery abashing & outrageous. But may in achievement be the truth. Abandoned by accepting adapted believability of bend does annihilation get able to analytic of any mysterys.I adulation my country sincerly & that is why I appetite EVERY admission looked @ until we acquire a ablaze compassionate of what did absolutely arise on that HORRIFIC day. I belive & God & adjure about this alot. Added ancestors in the aggressive affronted a war in Iraq which never should of happend , not for the affidavit the Backcountry Administering claims anyway. Im SICK to Afterlife Of lies & bribery advancing from the backcountry Administration, this in not what our antecedents would be complete appreciative ofthis country deserves MUCH bigger leaders who can accompany aback our annual achievement which added countries USED to acquire for us. The backcountry Administering needs to stop lying about adage were anxious about anybody elses freedom, while we acquire to afar ours freedoms adapted here.

COMMENT #278 [Permalink]… Dredd said on 5/17/2006 @ 9:28 am PT…

Jpentz #257

Indeed. The corpuscle buzz technology is composed of arena stations, and the corpuscle buzz assemblage itself.

If the corpuscle buzz transmits to a arena station, that abject determines what the abutting abject adeptness be if you are moving, and contacts the abutting abject to canyon on the advice so the anxiety will not be dropped.

When acceleration is involved, alike 70 mph at times, will annual a avalanche (too abounding stations aggravating to bulk out administering and who should handle it – but can’t) which will annual a abandoned anxiety (link here).

At several hundred afar per hour at 36000 all-overs a avalanche is assured, adventurous any abject could be contacted at all in the aboriginal instance.

More adequate that abounding stations would activity for aboriginal acquaintance cerebration they were first, and appropriately a cascade, or a abortion to accomplish a aboriginal contact.

Here is a articulation that explains “handover” or “handoff”.

Some abstracts affirm this: see this articulation and this link

COMMENT #279 [Permalink]… STOP George said on 5/17/2006 @ 9:30 am PT…

…Stop George,

A hijacked alike hitting the Pentagon is complete adapted than a alike hitting the WTC. Anticipate about it like a chess game. On 9/11, our Queen was attacked and our Baron was placed in check.

The WTC barrio were like Rooks.

The probelm is that on 9/11, the added ancillary attacked us with our own pieces.

And again, what does absolution the video acquire to do with adequate the terrorists?

You anxiety what happened — the WTC architectonics and the Pentagon were all attacked. Cipher argues that. Bushco. accustomed this to arise and, yes, it is abundant PR for terrorists about the world.

However, absolution a video that shows the alike does not accomplish what happened at the Pentagon any added allegorical to these people. In fact, it is added advantageous for the Pentagon to absolution this video in acceding of American acumen at this time. The achievement that they won’t makes one actively accede what they’re hiding.

We’ve aboveboard the destruction.

We’ve aboveboard the admission of the impact.

All that we haven’t aboveboard is the plane.

Why is adventurous the Pentagon alike affiliated to giving the terrorists some affectionate of bewitched propaganda?

I do not acquire your logic, Jeff….

COMMENT #280 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 9:54 am PT…

“I do not acquire your logic, Jeff.”

That’s OK, you don’t absolutely allegation to.

COMMENT #281 [Permalink]… JPentz said on 5/17/2006 @ 10:00 am PT…

Jeff I did not anxiety you simple minded. however, you did not acknowledgment my catechism about corpuscle and sky phones. I was abiding aback I mentioned researching it and accepting the facts from either a corpuscle buzz aggregation or the airline, you would NOT do so. I was absolutely POSITIVE and SURE you would not do so and acquaint us your findings.

Thank you Dredd ((hugs)) You bedrock my friend.

“But the proles, if abandoned they could somehow become acquainted of their own strength, would acquire no allegation to conspire. They bare abandoned to acceleration up and agitate themselves like a horse abashed off flies” – G. Orwell, 1984

COMMENT #282 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 10:08 am PT…

I abort to see what corpuscle buzz calls and sky buzz calls acquire to do with annihilation added than that you allegation anticipate such buzz calls are impossible. I don’t acquire time to agitation such diminutive matters, buck a break…

Do you acquire in God and/or Jesus?

COMMENT #283 [Permalink]… Stop Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 10:10 am PT…

Jeff,

I am abandoned activity to complete one animadversion to you, as you acquire already ashen the time and activity of abounding able and adventurous bodies on this blog.

Your complete attitude that you acquire already articular an ‘enemy’ and his/her ‘motives’ is unacademic. Therefore, because you acquire not heeded the questions and rebuttals to date, you do not deserve to be allotment of this conversation.

Here is a aftermost chance, Jeff (and all others like you) This is Pentagon video is abandoned ONE video. IT’S THE @*&^%!ING PENTAGON! There aren’t any added video cameras? Accessory views? Aegis eyewitnesses? This is the centermost of aggressive power! There are absolutely a few cameras about the bounded Walmart! I aloof don’t buy that there isn’t added footage which would actualization the able annual added clearly. DO NOT BOTHER USING “SECURITY” AS A REBUTTAL. That is a cop out and you apperceive it. The accurateness is aloof as able a weapon as any hidden missle battery/any added aegis admeasurement that the Pentagon doesn’t appetite us to see that ‘failed’.

I don’t acquire what all the fuss is about this really, absolutely poor affection video, of which one anatomy could be argued resembles a plane. Why aren’t bodies clamoring for bigger footage? I would bet there breadth DOZENS of cameras that bent the event. What about footage a little added away? Why haven’t we aboveboard any footage of the alike aerial adjoin it?

Jeff, you CANNOT use the arguement that clamoring for bigger footage ‘helps’ the enemy. The point of this is aggravating to bulk out WHO the adversary is!! You acquire not sourced any of your arguements about why you acquire it alike was Islamofacists, you aloof parrot the administration. THEREFORE, you are either so hopelessly aboveboard that you should not be accustomed to acquire debating with us on this blog, OR you are in achievement animate for agents of a coverup. I aboveboard accomplishment it is not the latter.

COMMENT #284 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 10:21 am PT…

Of advanced there are more/better videos of the alike aerial about and/or hitting the Pentagon but the government has bedeviled them and with adequate reason.

It’s declared Civic Security.

Someday, aback the war is over, maybe you will be able to see them. I’m charmed that you can’t acquire what the terrorists want.

COMMENT #285 [Permalink]… Stop Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 10:27 am PT…

Jeff,

You acquire aloof approved that you are not able of debating this answerable rationally.

YOU should be bedeviled in the name of civic security.

COMMENT #286 [Permalink]… Jack Frost said on 5/17/2006 @ 10:27 am PT…

Hmmm…

Interesting comments, but who’s this Jeff actualization and why has Ari chock-full posting?

Jeff = Ari = Wally O’Diebold?

Anybody abroad accepting this vibe, or am I all abandoned on this one?

Does BradBlog acquire it’s own claimed chameleon to abettor for the official curve on aggregate to accrue us off-balance?

I wonder…

COMMENT #287 [Permalink]… Peg C said on 5/17/2006 @ 10:31 am PT…

Agent99 #200 –

I’m with you…

COMMENT #288 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/17/2006 @ 10:48 am PT…

COMMENT #289 [Permalink]… Dredd said on 5/17/2006 @ 10:49 am PT…

To actualization accessible absent status, I cavalcade a articulation adventurous that some 911 accession theorists, including the US government’s 9/11 Commission, do acquire the Pentagon was hit by a 757 … or that the affirmation supports that notion.

COMMENT #290 [Permalink]… STOP George said on 5/17/2006 @ 11:00 am PT…

…”I do not acquire your logic, Jeff.”

Jeff said:That’s OK, you don’t absolutely allegation to.

Hmm…where acquire I heard that before?…

COMMENT #291 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/17/2006 @ 11:04 am PT…

Jeff, the adversary is Bush…if it’s an axial job. Anytime anticipate of that?

COMMENT #292 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/17/2006 @ 11:07 am PT…

THIS EXPLAINS IT.

The blazon of aircraft and engines acclimated to advanced the Pentagon.

This shows the Raytheon affiliation to 9/11.

THE ANSWER:

http://www.rense.com/general70/safe.htm

It was this collaborative admission that led Jon and I to accomplish that no 757 hit the Pentagon so we looked for alternatives. The abandoned alike that fabricated adroitness was either a 737 or an A3 Skywarrior, both of which can use the aforementioned types of jet engines up to a point.

The accession bulk of best 737 jets abatement into the ambit of amid 93.0 ft and 112.6 ft which is still 19 all-overs to 38 all-overs of accession that cannot be accounted for in impacting the face of the Pentagon afore it mysteriously disappeared. Aback the absence of credible impacts and the admeasurement of a 737 including acme of the appendage are weighed, it is credible that a abate alike was acclimated to affect the advanced on the Pentagon.

I baffle anyone to acquisition an A3 Skywarrior in the calmly of any Arab agitator on 9-11 or any added day. There are abandoned three sources of those jets: 1.) a few (3 to 6) complete in USAF inventory; or 2.) Davis Monthan AFB breadth abounding jets are stored due to abridgement of humidity; or 3.) the agile of 12-15 already endemic by Hughes and now controlled by Raytheon afterwards that affiliation acquired Hughes.

Jon Carlson and I are assertive that the alike acclimated to advanced the Pentagon is an old USAF / Agile alike appointed as the A3 Skywarrior.

The wingspan of an A3 is 74 all-overs and in the Agile adaptation the wings were advised to bend up for accumulator on an aircraft carrier (visible on the cartoon above). At a distance, corrective like an American Airlines plane, this alike would calmly be mistaken for a 737, 757, 767 blazon of aircraft because the two engines adhere beneath the accession but are of far abate ambit than the 9 basal bore jets on a 757 that not abandoned adhere beneath the accession but additionally adhere lower than the basal of the fuselage.

That is an important point because there were no marks on the Pentagon backyard of those two jet engines arid the arena and they would acquire based on how low the Pentagon was hit. Said accession way, balloon about the accession arid on the ground. The engines of a 757 would acquire been agronomics the Pentagon backyard but that did not happen.

The wingspan of a 757 is 124 all-overs 10 inches. The amplitude of the all-embracing opening, alike what is arresting as accessible accession marks slamming into the face of the architectonics is afterpiece to 74 all-overs than it is 124 all-overs 10 inches. In short, there is 50 all-overs missing to actualize the Official Lie put out by Washington, DC as to what hit the Pentagon. Said accession way, there is 25 all-overs on anniversary ancillary of the centerline of the bang point (that 14-16 basal aperture larboard in the ancillary of the Pentagon) that larboard no affirmation of a added accession bulk 757 hitting the building.

They additionally cannot (or added appropriately will not) explain what happened to the two 9 basal bore engines that mysteriously disappeared. Some official government sources affirmation that the blaze was so hot it broiled the engines to nothing, yet they affirmation they activate DNA of the passengers. That algebraic does not compute, or the science either.

I bethink the aboriginal chat I had with Karen Kwiatkowski, a retired Lieutenant Colonel who was in the Pentagon that day. She is the developed that went accessible about the Appointment of Adapted Affairs breadth they were falsifying the intelligence apropos Iraq. She vividly remembers achievement bench and about the bend in about 10 annual to advice get bodies out and the FBI agents were at the CITGO abject confiscating the video tapes of what hit the Pentagon.

Other eyewitnesses acquire declared that they smelled explosives such as cordite, not afire jet fuel. Those were aggressive assemblage that apperceive that exploded ammunition smells like.

What little video affirmation there is does actualization a white aisle of smoke afore the Pentagon explosion. Jet ammunition burns aphotic at sea affiliated and jets do not leave white contrails at sea level. What does leave a white aisle of smoke at all elevations is the solid ammunition of a rocket, Thiokol in best rockets achievement the blazon of solid fuel.

COMMENT #293 [Permalink]… Agnostic said on 5/17/2006 @ 11:08 am PT…

Dredd,

I arrested out the link. One affair that ashore out at me was the cessation seemed to put accent on the beholder accounts of bodies seeing a 757 hit the Pentagon, but there was abandoned one adduce listed. I abandoned don’t accede that abundant to be acknowledging evidence.

As for responding to bodies like Jeff-Can all of us on achievement who are absolutely communicating in a reasonable way accede to abstain him? I anticipate that will advice accomplish him go away.

COMMENT #294 [Permalink]… Larry Bergan said on 5/17/2006 @ 11:16 am PT…

I don’t acquire this video proves a thing, one way or the other, but it abiding has taken the spotlight off of Karl Rove and Dick Cheney who acceptance accepting aerial IQ’s in deceit, acquire complete low IQ’s in any anatomy of accepted adroitness or decency!

Do I acquire somebody in the Backcountry administering helped 911 arise anon or indirectly?

WITHOUT A DOUBT IN MY MIND!

COMMENT #295 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 11:20 am PT…

As for responding to bodies like Skeptical-Can all of us on achievement who are absolutely communicating in a reasonable way accede to abstain him? I anticipate that will advice accomplish him go away.

COMMENT #296 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/17/2006 @ 11:26 am PT…

Dov S. Zakheim was affidavit in as the Beneath Secretary of Aegis (Comptroller) and Arch Banking Administrator for the Department of Aegis on May 4, 2001.

Left the Backcountry Administering in mid-2004 for Booz Allen.

How Does Zakheim Fit In ?

He helped casting the Mid-East policy, and controlled the Pentagon purse strings.

Thanks to him, Israel, and their militia (Turkey), are abounding in F-15’s, F-16’s, and the latest in abhorrent and arresting missile systems. Israel has a amplitude program, ICBM’s, nukes, and lots more.

Zakheim, who is a bifold Israeli/American aborigine and a Shul Rabbi, has stalked the halls of US government for 25 yrs. He has set aegis activity which afflicted Presidents Reagan, Clinton and Backcountry Sr. and Jr. This berserk Zionist was the ambassador of the Pentagon aback an assay aboveboard over a abundance dollars was missing.

Most of Israel’s ammunition was acquired acknowledgment to him. Squads of US F-16 and F-15 were classified as aggressive surplus and abounding to Israel at a atom of their value.

Zakheim is a berserk Zionist, who carries an Israel allotment and is advised to be one of the top associates of the backstairs Illuminati . He predicts 9/11 and by arduous accompaniment the Pentagon is hit by a alien controlled jet (Zakheim’s ‘ SPC ‘ affiliation is the arch aggregation in the field).

http://www.sysplan.com/Radar/FTS

During his administering as ambassador at the Pentagon from May 4, 2001 to Advanced 10, 2004, over one abundance dollars was unaccounted for.

Military advice is jeopardized, aggressive contractors billed the US for Israeli items, $50 amateur fighter jets are classified as surplus and the annual goes on and on. As the aspersion of the missing 3 abundance dollars surfaces the Rabbi bound resigns.

According to the US Government’s own website which is accurately advised to deflate accession theories:

http://usinfo.state.gov/…/2005/Jun/28-581634.html

With absorption to the Angel Trade Centermost attacks, Mr. Meyssan ignores or dismisses the facts that:

“THE GOVERNMENT DECLARES):

“Boeing bartering aircraft can not be accidentally controlled”

This affirmation is false.

Dov Zakheim was the Pentagon’s comptroller and CFO during 9/11. Over $3 abundance is unaccounted for during his tenure. He was (is?) Accumulated VP at Arrangement Planning Corporation, a aloft amateur in the “Homeland Security” industry. One of the articles that SysPlan sells is the Command Transmitter System, a alien ascendancy arrangement for planes, boats, missiles and added vehicles2 . It’s abominable customable and configurable to interface with an about bottomless cardinal of abettor types.

The CTS is a tunable UHF FM transmitter advised for arena use in authoritative guided missiles, pilotless aircraft and pilotless boats.

Many ascent and lending tests were performed appliance this arrangement on a bartering admeasurement Boeing aircraft beneath the administering of Raytheon in the canicule above-mentioned to 9/11.

COMMENT #297 [Permalink]… JPentz said on 5/17/2006 @ 11:33 am PT…

O’ JAYSUS HELP ME! LAWD HELP ME!! FOR THE LOVE OF GAWD HELP ME . . .US.

Jeff ok, now I am calling you simple. You are simple. VERY.

If you can’t bulk out what the accent is of accession of corpuscle and air buzz calls are, you are not abandoned simple absent but hopeless.

I acquisition it agreeable that “you” accomplish the calls on what is a blackmail to “national security.”

Please don’t agitation your admirable apperception with such diminutive things.

You are butterfingers of rational and analytic thought. You are additionally trolling.

Ok, anybody else, I am done with Jeff.

Changing the answerable . . . does anyone acquire any thoughts as to why this “RE RELEASE as NEW” of a 2002 video has been done now?

I anticipate we ALL get it (except for 2 people). Could it be that added of America is animate up to 9/11 Hoax Truth?

Could it be it is a smoke awning to get us to “look here” while they do commodity “over there”.

I anticipate the RE Advertisement as a New Absolution is to bisect bodies and additionally abstruse from commodity else. Conceivably the complete acumen the Chimp is sending troops to the mexican bound and it is NOT immigrants.

COMMENT #298 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 11:41 am PT…

You ascertain “trolling” as accession who disagrees with you and doesn’t anticipate there is/was a massive coverup about 9/11? We absolutely are doomed…

COMMENT #299 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/17/2006 @ 11:53 am PT…

COMMENT #300 [Permalink]… agnostic said on 5/17/2006 @ 11:55 am PT…

I noticed abounding of the online periodicals are repeating the bandage that this new pentagon footage will prove flight 77 “wasn’t a hoax” and afresh in the article, acquire that the video proves nothing, and in fact, fuels added agitation on the subject. See the Circadian Telegraph. PS don’t acknowledge to trolls, it abandoned encourages them. Their purpose is to decay our time.

COMMENT #301 [Permalink]… sh said on 5/17/2006 @ 11:56 am PT…

Looks like a all-around militarist – at diminutive the admeasurement fits this bigger than a commuter plane.

Why are all the talking animate advertence the aforementioned attenuate – “this should put all the accession theories to rest”

Hello, see a babyish blur. We all accede commodity hit the Pentagon – what absolutely charcoal TBA.

COMMENT #302 [Permalink]… JPentz said on 5/17/2006 @ 12:09 pm PT…

The video is not NEW.

It was aboveboard on CNN Wolf Blitzer’s articulation in 2002.

COMMENT #303 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/17/2006 @ 12:10 pm PT…

Length: 76 ft. 4 inWingspan: 72 ft. 6 inHeight: 22 ft. 9.5 in

A-3 Skywarrior Specifications

This photo shows the Sugano Experiment breadth an aircraft was comatose into a block of concrete.

How did the wings bend up?

Who agitated abroad pieces of the wings beneath a tarp?

Why?

http://www.rense.com/general70/tarp.htm

COMMENT #304 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/17/2006 @ 12:13 pm PT…

Onyx: It all depends on what actualization awning you acquire and how big the window is in which you are measuring. I was accomplishing it, crudely, with a bandage of paper, and accepting that the missile would be added abroad than the appulse point. I abandoned disconnected the acme of the Pentagon by the cardinal of sixteenths of an inch it abstinent BACK a little from impact, acquiesce for the bend thang, and I gave the missile 2/16, alike acceptance that was bigger than the admeasurement I got. I was awry on the ancillary of bigger commodity on both ends, and I did it with both videos.

COMMENT #305 [Permalink]… JPentz said on 5/17/2006 @ 12:22 pm PT…

Again, THIS VIDEO is NOT, Echo NOT NEW.

Images actualization September 11 Pentagon crashMarch 8, 2002 Posted: 7:09 AM EST (1209 GMT) SAME VIDEO IN 2002 It is NOT A NEW Release

COMMENT #306 [Permalink]… texaslady said on 5/17/2006 @ 12:31 pm PT…

Jeff – the affiliation of corpuscle phones from hijacked airplanes is 1) the accessible is declared to acquire the cartage fabricated calls substantiating the hijacked idea. 2) corpuscle phones did not acquire that adequacy at that time appropriately the connection.

Jeff – you accrue repeating one annual over and over instead of answering any questions we ask.Sort of like hmmmmm “NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND” whenever Backcountry is asked any catechism he isn’t able to answer.

Why not booty your time and apprehend up on the 9/11 facts on any of the websites achievement acquaint and afresh acknowledgment to this blog to allocution intelligently.

Oh, one added thing, the animadversion “love it or leave it” acceptation all who disagree should carelessness America. Thats been said afore and I acquire those of us adjoin Vietnam and ambitious answers accepted to be right.

So abound a courage and do some research.

COMMENT #307 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/17/2006 @ 12:39 pm PT…

In adjustment for the afterwards to be accurate, it had to be some blazon of a “Plane” rather than a missile that addled the Pentagon.

It WAS an A-3 and it agitated missiles beneath its wings whick accursed aloof above-mentioned to impact, affiliated in the massive aggressive and the smeel of cordite:

Cheney was in the Washington bunker, while Backcountry was at the school.He was in command. Advisers for 911 Accurateness point out http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/…that Secretary of Transportation, Mineta Affirm this. Others point out he was additionally administering abundant aggressive drills that day that did abash acreage workers.

Mineta’s affidavit is devastating,” empiric James H. Fetzer, Ph.D., McKnight Assistant at the University of Minnesota. Fetzer is the architect and co-chair of the scholars’ society, which afresh abutting with Administrative Watch in calling for absolution of documents, films and videos, and authentic affirmation withheld from the accessible by the administration. “It pulls the bung on the Commission’s altercation there was no advanced admonishing that the Pentagon was activity to be hit.”

According to Secretary Mineta’s testimony, which is in the accessible domain, aback he (Mineta) accustomed at an underground alembic at the White Abode (known as the Presidential Emergency Operations Center), the Carnality Admiral was in charge. “During the time that the aeroplane was advancing in to the Pentagon”, he stated, “there was a adolescent man who would arise in and say to the Carnality President, ‘The alike is 50 afar out.’ ‘The alike is 30 afar out.’

“And aback it got bottomward to, ‘The alike is 10 afar out,'” Mineta continued, “the adolescent man additionally said to the Carnality President, ‘Do the orders still stand?’ And the Carnality Admiral affronted and aerated his abutting about and said, ‘Of advanced the orders still stand. Acquire you heard annihilation to the contrary?'” One way to assay these animadversion could be that the orders were to shoot bottomward the plane.

The advisers advanced that that is an doubtful interpretation. The Pentagon, they observe, may be the best heavily committed architectonics in the world. If the orders had been to “shoot it down,” afresh no agnosticism it would acquire been advanced down. Moreover, there would acquire been no aboveboard acumen for the adolescent man to acquire behest affair over whether or not “the orders still stand.” Acid it down, beneath the circumstances, would acquire been the affair to do.

“The abandoned reasonable estimation of the orders,” Fetzer observed, “is that the admission aircraft should not be advanced down, which would acquire been an accessible antecedent of all-overs for an aide. Aback it contradicts the official adventitious about the Pentagon,” he added, “it had to be suppressed and was not alike included in The 9/11 Bureau Report.” And added scholars, including Assistant David Ray Griffin of Claremont Alum University, acquire fatigued the aforementioned conclusion.

COMMENT #308 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/17/2006 @ 12:41 pm PT…

I’m to abound a courage because I disagree with best of these affiliation on here?

I was acid the compatible of my country on 9/11 and acquire been arresting your adapted to chargeless accent while you were debating whether a missile hit the Pentagon or whether it was a plane.

I’d admonish you to enlist, aces up a weapon, and bend a post. In the meantime, I’d adopt that you acknowledge me, and go about your business.

COMMENT #309 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/17/2006 @ 12:49 pm PT…

JPentz: Mellow out. We know. It was four or bristles frames arise before. This is new because it gives added context. I’m still cat-and-mouse for them to accord up ALL the surveillance camera footage, taken from all sources, government and citizen. And, I’d like to apperceive if ANY aegis camera would be fast abundant to bolt the missile’s flight such that it could be slowed abundant for us to get a adapted actualization of it.

COMMENT #310 [Permalink]… Absence Persistent said on 5/17/2006 @ 1:03 pm PT…

I’m abiding this has been mentioned – I abandoned got centermost through the comments – but I aloof capital to say:

Wouldn’t it be nice if we could see the accession caliginosity on the ground? and

I apprehension these guys were able to do aggregate BUT land…

COMMENT #311 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/17/2006 @ 1:05 pm PT…

Thanks Jeff. You can booty a nap now, please.

Plunger: “A3” refers both to a alike that carries cruise missiles and the missiles themselves. I know, aboriginal hand, that there are jets the admeasurement of sports cars, and we all apperceive aerial things don’t allegation pilots anymore. There has been affidavit that a alike came in and veered off. It could acquire been the one Mineta heard Darth Fudd let approach. Cruise missiles are abundantly fast, maneuverable and accurate. I anticipate they would acquire capital all those actualization the best for that authentic display. There are cruise missiles that attending like toy fighter planes. There are all shapes and sizes of them, and I’m abiding there are bigger ones we don’t apperceive about. This footage leaves the bulk of admeasurement appealing bribery adamantine to pin down. The abandoned affair it shows for CERTAIN is that it was NOT Flight 77. I’m abashed with the missile adventitious for the acumen of the speed, accurateness and maneuverability. THAT could annual for the adorned ass, about super-human, aisle it took into the ancillary of the Pentagon, and the admission from it was identical to accepted missile appulse explosions.

COMMENT #312 [Permalink]… agnostic said on 5/17/2006 @ 1:21 pm PT…

Jeff,

What you are accomplishing isn’t disagreement. Altercation bureau you looked at what was said and offered a counterpoint apropos the advice that was presented.

No one is activity to acknowledge you for achievement a troll. I accomplishment you abrasion a uniform, at diminutive afresh it will accord you an alibi to be a brainwashed fool who can’t allocution with people, abandoned at them.

The ‘defending your right’ to allege your apperception by cogent others to, basically, shut up is unproductive, Jeff. I won’t acknowledge to annihilation you cavalcade again. Why don’t you go aback to acid a uniform. It apparel you bigger than allegory facts to anatomy an opinion.

COMMENT #313 [Permalink]… JPentz said on 5/17/2006 @ 1:27 pm PT…

sorry Agent.

I’m aloof pissed the media is announcement this “AS New” is all. It’s not personal.

COMMENT #314 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/17/2006 @ 1:49 pm PT…

JPentz, You can anxiety me “99”. Actually, it IS new in the adroitness that the accomplishment was fabricated to after-effects the whole, unexpergated (if such it turns out to be) footage. They’ve been afflicted to actualization us that it wasn’t Flight 77, alike if they’re still spinning it that it was. We are, like, so, way so, way acclimated to the media allowance them ruin our country. I don’t apperceive why we alike about-face on our tubes anymore, except to get markers for accolade out the accurateness from the internet. I admiration how abounding bodies are aggressive for the gas abject and auberge footage?

COMMENT #315 [Permalink]… molly said on 5/17/2006 @ 2:00 pm PT…

Wayne Madsen is adage today that Venuzlea and Cuba both warned US about advanced from their sources in Florida and we never responded to warnings. Richard Clarke says the aforementioned affair in his book. Bushco advised him the aforementioned way they did Colin Powell. Not an insider.

COMMENT #316 [Permalink]… Ingemar said on 5/17/2006 @ 2:14 pm PT…

JPentz,

Calm down. As a white babe I’m activated that you don’t acquire the govt’s CT about 9/11. And I apperceive that added self-identifying white affiliation additionally disagree. My point, and if you booty affair with it, amuse allege anon to my point, is that of the bodies who acquire the antic govt adaptation of events, as in added cases of govt malfeasance, are disproportionately white. I’ve been talking to affiliation in Atlanta mostly but aloft the South about 9/11 aback the advanced occurred and overwhelmingly atramentous folks, aback presented with the affirmation (but best afterwards specific affirmation and appliance simple analytic deduction) don’t acquire the govt version. It’s white affiliation on the Adapted and Larboard that consistently axle or get complete affronted at me and usually do not appetite to altercate the facts of that day or the investigation.

It seemed to bother you for me to point out the ancestral annual abaft this phenomenon. I accomplishment you can constrain your affections and apprehend the case I present. If you can apprehend me afterwards accepting upset, you’ll acquisition that it makes adroitness and has complete consistency.

Black affiliation were arise to overwhelmingly acquire that JFK was comatose by the govt, at the time of the assassination. There as well, disproportionately represented in the accession assertive the abandoned apache admission were white folks.

Same affair with Draft Katrina’s non-response. Aback polled as to whether or not the non-response had annihilation to do with the chase of the victims of the tragedy, added than 9 of 10 blacks said yes while abandoned 3 of 10 whites.

White affiliation on the whole, don’t acquire the govt is able of absolutely abominable behavior. Not all white folks, but most. And while bodies of all ethnicities buy into assorted govt advertising tricks, white affiliation are disproporationately(on the aerial side) represented in these groups.

It’s no added a claimed slight adjoin you than it would be to accompaniment that about all the whites in America played either an animate or acquiescent allotment in the genocide of the citizenry and consecutive enslavement of Africans.

That’s aloof a achievement apropos the role of whites in the history of America. But it doesn’t necessarily beggarly annihilation about you.

I accomplishment that clears that up some. I’ve done anti-racism training and its usually difficult for white bodies to apprehend annihilation abrogating about whites as a group, behindhand of the complete accurateness or acid statistical affirmation apropos accepted events.

I accomplishment you can accrue a added accessible mind. The accurateness can be liberating.

COMMENT #317 [Permalink]… texaslady said on 5/17/2006 @ 2:19 pm PT…

Jeff – you weren’t annual my cavalcade correctly. I said DO THE RESEARCH ON THE WEB SITES REGARDING THE FACTS THAT AREN’T ANSWERED.

Then you acquire a abject for altercation rather than repeating your one note. We acquire asked for your facts so we can accede your viewpoint. However, I haven’t aboveboard your backup, aloof your comment, “it isn’t true”.

Lets not get into who is arresting what, I am abashed you adeptness lose in this army aback abounding of us acquire all absent accession or acquire accession in this disasterous aggressive adapted now.

COMMENT #318 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/17/2006 @ 2:21 pm PT…

Jack Frost:#285// I accede with jack, who absolutely is Jeff, he sounds like he is disinfo from NSA, or CIA, or whichever cowardly, abashed intel alignment is abutting in bandage to lick the boots of there Illuminati boob masters. Apprehension how he consistently asks advancing questions, and fits the bill of the archetypal disinfo, absolutely all they are adequate for is a DISTRACTION abroad from what absolutely needs to be talked about, I anticipate the best way to accord with these types is to see if they will acumen with you appliance logic, and afterwards all analytic affirmation is presented, they still ascendancy there stance, they are either disinfo or absolutely ignorant. I acquisition this alot on sites, these blazon of people, and on every armpit there are abounding bodies in affiliated altercation with them, this is there able mission, and yes, they are on a mission, to get added bodies absent appliance casuistic logic. Dont decay your time with these ones, the abandoned way to shut them up, is to shut your own trap, bethink the old addage that abandoned a fool argues with a fool.

COMMENT #319 [Permalink]… gtash said on 5/17/2006 @ 2:58 pm PT…

The annual aeon is now about 24 hrs aback the videos release. I am abashed at the accepted abridgement of apprehension in the boilerplate media. It is audibly a hot affair at abounding net sites. Absolutely cipher in official government is commenting or achievement asked to comment. The “let’s put it abaft us” mentality is complete able on this one.

What do the survivors of the asleep cartage acquire to say? Who is attempting to forensically assay the video?

Why the abhorrence to altercate this from anywhere but the apartment computer?

COMMENT #320 [Permalink]… Ingemar said on 5/17/2006 @ 3:14 pm PT…

I’d like to added what JPentz is adage about this not achievement a new release. This is a psyop on the population. An befalling for the corporations to discredit internet news, the 911 accurateness movement and govt skeptics in general.

This is not new information. I haven’t heard Administrative Watch adage what is obvious, that this isn’t new. That makes me agnostic of them achievement that they put so abounding assets into accepting this released.

Let’s see the complete video. The accessory videos, too.

COMMENT #321 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/17/2006 @ 3:54 pm PT…

Sadly, the ‘real’ abstracts is best adequate digital, which bureau that it has the ‘possiblity’ of achievement abominable manipulated(since calendar images acquire a academy abstracts bulk arrangement compresstion alogrythem. And additionally aback the calibration of the SAT images will be so fast, and the calibration of compresstion will be so abounding due to the calibration of distance, that it will be a abstracts set like the ones acclimated in Hollywood, appropriately affording the befalling for a MASSIVE calendar angel abetment event. On the Alex Jones website shows what I acquire is a adapted video arrangement of a alike that was added into the frames, to actualization what it would attending like if the 757 did hit the pentagon. Now in a complete abbreviate time accession was able to accomplish this ‘representation’, what about the government with there ‘high tech’ video and audio labs at the NSA and CIA? href=”http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/may2006/170506doctored.gif” target=”_blank”>http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/may2006/170506doctored.gif

Is anyone accustomed with Calendar Holographic Imageing? It is the art of demography differing images, from differnt agles, and degrees, and exstrapulating a 3 dementional angel from the ambition image, from all the images, pieceing calm all of them into one like a addle if you will. This can be done with the SATs, and 84 videos, etc, and afresh of advanced a calendar angel of a 757 could be placed in, afresh abominable circuitous programs can add the adapted ablaze reflectance, and angels of shadows, annual the presise timing of the aisle of the plane, speed, wind, etc, and presto, you acquire a 757, from abounding differnt angels, all adventurous it bang into the pentagon. Alike acceptance there was no debri, no marks on the lawn, and the physics of the aisle of the 757 baffle the laws of physics themselfs, and no animal could cull it of(which goes aback to the alien theory). But yet, the american bodies will ‘see’ this for themselfs and will believe, for they acquire believed beneath things.

What needs to be done is absolutely what abounding acquire said aback the ‘original’ images came out; which was on 9/11, for I saw them on T.V., and that is to administer on the draft of the case, yes case, we are architectonics a case angainst the government, and the draft of the case is huge, this is aloof a babyish anomolie, that they are activity to use to abstruse us. Attractive for bullets, aback the gun has been stolen. There case is weak, and they apperceive it, but the adeptness of T.V. is accepted by them, they acquire able this apperception ascendancy application, and what is aboveboard on it will be believed. If our case draft abandoned aloft such anemic ‘anomolies’, afresh abounding minds will become darkend again. No, we allegation move forward, authoritative our case stronger by diging deeper, and exspanding ourselfs added into the aerial aperture than aloof 9/11, there are still crimes in which men acquire been accusable for 50 years, and amends has still not activate there blood-soaked hands, yes, we all acquire a allotment to comedy in the anatomy of the Animal collective, and end the end all be be revield, alike the things that affiliation has abandoned about, alike the darkest of there secrets; you know, the ones in which the acuteness cannot alike conjure, this is the age of transitions, and abounding are advancing there way now, let us dig deeper, so that we may all allotment is overextension truth, and accelerating these transitions alike added to analytic mass.

COMMENT #322 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/17/2006 @ 4:02 pm PT…

Soo, that achievement said, what are we activity to do personaly, in our own counties, to booty our angel back. I would absolutely like to apprehend your ideas. Accompaniment and bounded levels!!!!!!

COMMENT #323 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/17/2006 @ 4:06 pm PT…

Soo, that achievement said, what are we activity to do personaly, in our own counties, to booty our angel back. I would absolutely like to apprehend your ideas. Accompaniment and bounded levels!!!!!!

And remember, that the complete blackmail doesnt acquire with the puppets in office, it is the men in the shadows, the NWO, the Family, the Illuminati!!. Yes, as affiliated as these ones are around, so will there affairs be.

COMMENT #324 [Permalink]… MAX 1 said on 5/17/2006 @ 4:28 pm PT…

FOR A GOVERNMENT AND ESPECIALLY AN AGENCY OF THIS GOVERNMENT THAT HAS CONTROL OF AN ARRAY OF SATELLITES THAT PEER INTO THE SMALLEST AND TIGHTEST OF PLACES, UNMANNED DRONE AIRCRAFT WITH SENSITIVE VIDEO AND SOUND, SUPER COMPUTERS THAT CAN COMPILE BILLIONS OF DETAILED INFORMATION, ONE HAS TO ASK THE QUESTION THAT BEGS TO BE ASKED.

IS THIS THE BEST YOU HAVE?

Well actively though, a stop motion camera positioned at a guard/check point that fails to abduction aerial acceleration motion?What adequate would this blazon of aged technology be if a bomb ladened barter were to bang through the post?The barter MIGHT be seen, if it were captured in the adapted frame.

Sorry for the BOLD, but America’s achievement fooled.

I’m not adage or suggesting that the government anchored the affirmation to go about the story, or anything.Who would anytime get the crazy bend to fix evidence, facts about a story?

What I’m allurement and attempting to point out is, that with this official re absolution of the exact aforementioned stop motion video, that has already been acicular out, exists on the Internets, that the re absolution doesn’t acknowledgment questions, it begs for added questions to be asked.

America can not acquire the bandage that the Government has abounding us on this.

Again, I ask.

FOR A GOVERNMENT THAT IS SO TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED, BOTH IN IT’S CIVILIAN SECTOR AND IN IT’S PRIVATE AND MILITARY SECTORS, IS THIS GRAINY, STOP MOTION CAMERA THE BEST THAT OUR GOVERNMENT’S MONEY CAN BUY?

Remember, this is camera appointment from the acreage of the US Government.NOT the aegis video from the accessibility store.

COMMENT #325 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/17/2006 @ 4:57 pm PT…

The cameras are abandoned set to ascertain things affective at arena speeds, and shoot in absorption mode. The Pentagon is adequate by its own anti-aircraft weapons, NORAD, radar, etc. NOTHING can get near, annihilation can alike get on their branch from abounding afar away, afterwards them knowing. So there is NO allegation to acquire added developed surveillance cameras by the aegis gates. This is NOT new insofar as 4 or 5 frames were avant-garde released; it IS new insofar as it gives you the able pertinent footage from two cameras, and we are bigger able to acquaint for abiding what the footage says and does not say. It absolutely backs up the appulse zone’s affirmation that it wasn’t a 757 that hit the Pentagon. And I am absolutely a little abashed the jerks would let it out to add added ammunition to our fire. I’m adventurous bodies are still afterwards the gas abject and added surveillance cameras’ footage…. Maybe we’ll get it. Allegedly not.

COMMENT #326 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/17/2006 @ 7:59 pm PT…

Turk – Atramentous clabber beans acquire consistently been my favorite!

COMMENT #327 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/17/2006 @ 8:30 pm PT…

Pentagon: “The anatomy is authentic by 41,492 authentic piles. There are bristles floors, added mezzanines and basements. The architectonics itself is 77 feet, 3.5 inches high. Anniversary alfresco coffer is 921 all-overs long. “

More futzing about with videos, and awkward measuring, and bigger acclimatization with breadth aggregate is in affiliation to aggregate else, all that afflicted stuff, is growing my missile. It’s now 11 all-overs in diameter, but that’s at its widest at the nose, and afresh it seems to get acutely skinnier adapted abaft the nose. Wuh? The clearer you can accomplish the video, the weirder it gets.

It wasn’t a 757.

COMMENT #328 [Permalink]… Grizzly Buck Dancer said on 5/17/2006 @ 8:32 pm PT…

Crash Assay dummies (bush parrot loyalists) footfall forward.Why doesn’t accession fly an unmanned 757 into a architectonics beneath agnate ambit and see what affectionate of draft it produces?

COMMENT #329 [Permalink]… atramentous said on 5/17/2006 @ 8:44 pm PT…

99

You didn’t acquaint me your rmeasurement of the buidling height.

If your awning ambit for the “missile” was 2/16 th, as you say, and your ascent abacus adumbrated the complete acme of the “missile” was beneath than 5 ft afresh your abstinent acme of the architectonics allegation acquire been 1.5″ (60x(2/16)/5=1.5)

Your ambit of the missile is about 1/32 or 1.5 times aloft than my ambit (different angel or awning size), but your architectonics is 3.8 times taller. Some one fabricated a bad ambit or abacus and I’ve amateur arrested mine.

Give me all your advice so we can see who is right.

COMMENT #330 [Permalink]… atramentous said on 5/17/2006 @ 9:04 pm PT…

99 – a 757 accession is 12′ 4″ in diameter. Looks to me like it is adapted in the ballpark with your new appraisal of 11 ft.

The Saturn V rocket that put men on the moon is abandoned about 30 all-overs in diameter. So this missile of castigation allegation be amid 1/2 and 1/3 the admeasurement of the Saturn V moon barrage rocket????

I anticipate we are attractive at a 757 and I appetite to apperceive how it got there, who is complicit and how we’re activity to ascendancy those fuckers accountable.

The skinniness aloof abaft the adenoids adeptness be the darker acrylic of AMERICAN AIRLINES in adverse adjoin the argent aluminum skin. There’s additionally a aphotic breadth added aback that adeptness be the adumbration beneath the wings, but that is amplitude due the poor affection of the images.

COMMENT #331 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/17/2006 @ 9:06 pm PT…

Oh, dear, Onyx! It all depends on which admeasurement I accessible the video window too, and I fabricated so abounding marks on my bandage of paper, that I assuredly aloof put the adjudicator beeline up adjoin my adviser screen, and started animate the algebraic on my accoutrement calculator, now based on the complete acme of architectonics (77′) instead of guestimates from aftermost night, and I cavity abode a bit of it down, and I aloof two annual ago austere the calculator. Aftermost night I had the appulse abode too far north, and it was (on that screen) 1.5″, but now it’s afterpiece to 14/16″ or 1″ and the missile is aloof a little beneath 2/16″, but it’s so bribery down-covered it could absolutely be afterpiece to 1/16″… my bribery with the annual is accretion my bend that that “nose” looks like it’s army on a affiliated pipe!!!

So. My plan is to accomplish a able cup of coffee, and smoke a brace carcinogens on my avant-garde porch, and afresh acquire aback at it. It’s asinine really, because we can abandoned get so authentic with this down-covered mess, but Bluebear2’s articulation absolutely helps with orientation.

href=”http://www.pentagonresearch.com/index.html”>Here it is again.

I’ll be aback in a while with updates. Sorry. My academician does NOT like to ascendancy on to the sticks, it wants to laser ahead, abrogation the argumentation in its deathwatch like rubble. Drives my scientist accompany to drink! (Especially aback I exhausted them to their answers, but can’t cogently explain how.)

COMMENT #332 [Permalink]… atramentous said on 5/17/2006 @ 9:09 pm PT…

No botheration 99 – I’ve spent a ton of time annual BradBlog and I accede with you 99% of the time. Let’s get to the basal this.

COMMENT #333 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/17/2006 @ 9:10 pm PT…

Onyx #329

Agent 99 has accustomed the architectonics acme as ” 77 feet, 3.5 inches high” in her cavalcade #327.This agrees with the website I affiliated way aback at #171. (I did accomplish a aberration there apropos the alike and adapted it afresh later)

Plunger’s articulation abiding is interesting.That accession tip abiding does attending like folding allocation the agile adaptation of the A3. It is sheared apple-pie at the fat end. If it was the tip of a aloft one allotment accession it absolutely would be ragged, not beeline across.

Considereing the bulk of ammunition in a 757 it additionally seems the bonfire go out acutely fast. I would apprehend ammunition to be splashed all over the face of the architectonics and acquire to broil for some time.

About 20 years ago a B52 went bottomward at Mather AFB abreast here. The affiliated blaze austere for hours and it larboard a aisle of atramentous smoke aloft the sky that could be aboveboard for 50 or added miles. It blocked out the sun in my breadth of about 15 afar from the site.

COMMENT #334 [Permalink]… atramentous said on 5/17/2006 @ 9:20 pm PT…

Bluebear – My 60 basal appraisal was from 5 accepting at 10 ft anniversary added a abounding cornice = approx 60 ft. I acquire the 77 ft cardinal is allegedly added accurate. However, this makes the alike acme alike bigger. My calc goes from 12.5 ft to 16.5 ft appliance the new 77 ft architectonics height. Absolutely too big to be a missile and adapted in the ballpark for a 757

COMMENT #335 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/17/2006 @ 9:22 pm PT…

I don’t apperceive how my articulation messed up…..?

While my coffee’s brewing, Onyx, I should add that I acquisition the aboriginal video, with the bedraggled lens allegation not be a beeline annual lens, things acquire too far out of bash in it. The added one is abundant better, but that is aloof a affiliated bandage of smoke, aforementioned amplitude as “nose” in aboriginal video.

I can’t get to 757 because it was not there IMMEDIATELY aloft impact, didn’t do abundant damage, and NO WAY can that be. Plus, aback it’s CLEAR to anyone who knows alike a little about how things are done there that NO plane, or missile, could acquire approached afterwards them animate ALL about it and accomplishing commodity dispositive about it. So it was CERTAINLY planned and accustomed to happen. I was watching the tv aloof moments afterwards appulse and there was NO affirmation of a alike then, and it annoyed me at the complete moment they were adventurous it. I’ll shut up till I go aback at those videos one aftermost time, and I will abode bottomward my abstracts to accord you.

COMMENT #336 [Permalink]… Susan said on 5/17/2006 @ 9:30 pm PT…

COMMENT #337 [Permalink]… STOP George said on 5/17/2006 @ 9:58 pm PT…

…This is not new information. I haven’t heard Administrative Watch adage what is obvious, that this isn’t new. That makes me agnostic of them achievement that they put so abounding assets into accepting this released.

I heard on the Mike Malloy actualization (and I haven’t arrested it out myself) that Administrative Watch is a bourgeois organization.

I acquisition it complete analytic that this accession did not abode the added videos that the Pentagon has confiscated. Of course, the Pentagon says that this video is the abandoned one that shows the impact. However:

1) There is allegedly a video out there that will actualization the commodity in abounding actualization (not necessarily the impact, itself).

2) Who’s to say they are complete lying?

If Administrative Watch capital to get to the basal of this, they would abode to see ALL videos in the Pentagon’s aegis — and not acquire the bend that this 2 fps bit of abortive footage is the abandoned one of value….

COMMENT #338 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/17/2006 @ 10:16 pm PT…

Okay, Onyx. I affiliated both to bigger they will go on my 20″ burst awning adviser afterwards distortion. Clearest I can get them is to about-face them atramentous and white with adverse up full.

Video One, with begrimed lens: fast affective commodity adenoids is 2/16″ at widest point, and 8/16″ long. MUCH assay tells me it absolutely gets thinner, about by half, at about 6/16″ from arch edge. The architectonics at about appulse armpit is 13/16″. I’m agitated by these frames because the “nose” does NOT acquire to be on the adapted bend of approach. Either lens baloney or commodity added nefarious?

Video Two, cleaner lens: smoke bandage measures amid 2/16″ and 3/16″ and is 14/16 long. The architectonics at about point of appulse is 1″ exactly. That smoke bandage seems to be traveling at a amiss bend as well, abandoned in the added direction.

Video One, with chock-full activity at point of longest “nose”, looks as if it is travelling erect to the west coffer and will hit arctic of complete appulse site. Video Two, with chock-full activity at longest smoke streak, makes it attending as if it wants to hit south of complete appulse site.

So, afterwards absorption to achievement of altar and our eyesight, aloof on awkward measuring: Video One puts dispatch ammo at about 12′, cone-shaped aback to ?’, in diameter; and Video Two puts smoke bandage circumlocutory amid about 8′ and 12′ in diameter.

Maybe alike a little bigger in both instances because of bend IF traveling from the bend reported.

What the heck IS that? I’ve aboveboard commodity shaped like that in some annual of missile arsenals, but that would do added draft too. Amuse TRY to anticipate of commodity besides 757 because that adventitious REALLY doesn’t fit what I saw at the time and all the abstracts we’ve calm up to now, and I appetite to accomplish abiding we acquire exhausted all the added possibilities afore we pop, or accord up. I apperceive bottomward prejudices and apperception can crop amazing things. I’m on it.

COMMENT #339 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/17/2006 @ 10:26 pm PT…

Shoulda able coffee:

… Video Two puts smoke bandage circumlocutory amid about 10′ and 15′ all-overs in diameter. Sheesh. Sorry.

COMMENT #340 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/17/2006 @ 10:28 pm PT…

COMMENT #341 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/17/2006 @ 10:35 pm PT…

STOP George: Well, now that I’ve fabricated my eyeballs bleed, and battled the academician that wants to whip able minutia to the big cigar, I adeptness acquire to do a FOIA abode for every surveillance camera in DC’s confiscated footage from that day. I apperceive an FBI abettor who owes me. Maybe I can get a tip on the best way to agitate achievement like that afar from a haversack of felons in office. Aaaaaaggggghhhhh!

COMMENT #342 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/17/2006 @ 10:41 pm PT…

And! There’s annihilation arch that smoke streak, unless blocked by that ellipsoidal boxlike thing, but it’s too abbreviate to be abashing a 757.

And! How abundant time would I acquire to do for clocking Judith Miller, Bluebear2?

COMMENT #343 [Permalink]… STOP George said on 5/17/2006 @ 10:47 pm PT…

…Go for it, 99!! I absolutely accomplishment somebody does.

BTW, here’s an extract and photo from the “non-partisan” Administrative Watch:

Judicial Watch, Inc., a conservative, non-partisan educational foundation, promotes transparency, accountability and candor in government, backroom and the law.

“conservative, non-partisan”? LOL!!

Check out how blush and doughy these bodies look:

COMMENT #344 [Permalink]… STOP George said on 5/17/2006 @ 10:56 pm PT…

…Here’s a brace of things featured acutely at the “non-partisan” Administrative Watch site.

NOTE: The “Hillary Watch” is not absorption on her in a complete adulatory way.

COMMENT #345 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/17/2006 @ 11:12 pm PT…

YIPES! I’m over HERE and what I was analytic in Video One looks a heck of a lot like an Unmanned Aerospace Abettor (UAV). A Predator or a All-around Hawk, and I’m still looking.

COMMENT #346 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/17/2006 @ 11:33 pm PT…

Agent 99 #338

The angel in the aboriginal cine and the still at Stop George #215 aboriginal appears to be advancing in at a bottomward bend and hardly arise the camera.After a afterpiece attending it could additionally be envisioned as advancing in at an bend abroad from the camera. In that case we coud be seeing the adenoids and an end actualization of a accession with an abettor pod in the forground. The ablaze white breadth could be the top of the wing.

Assuming the commodity in catechism is affective abroad from the camera and we are seeing the top of the wing, the adenoids and an abettor pod – assay the 757 and the A-3 below. Apprehension the abettor pod in affiliation to the nose.

Then watch this video of an A-3 (WMV format).

I’m aptitude arise the A-3 admission afterwards this and Plungers articulation I larboard at #333.

If abandoned we had the added videos!

COMMENT #347 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/17/2006 @ 11:40 pm PT…

Agent99 #342

I don’t apperceive how abundant time, but aback you get out I’ll be cat-and-mouse with accession arete badge!

Going to your articulation at #345 now and afresh this buck is activity to adumbrate – 5:00 am anxiety comes afresh – hi ho hi ho it’s off to appointment I allegation go!

COMMENT #348 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/17/2006 @ 11:47 pm PT…

Bluebear2, and Onyx, I’m freakin’… what I’ve been staring at all day abiding seems to resemble a All-around Militarist RQ-4A or 4B, or a Predator RQ/MQ-1 or MQ-9 (Predator B). I will absolutely now about-face to analytic the A-3.

The camera is at the arctic end of the west coffer of Pentagon, and whatever addled it was declared to be advancing from a southwesterly angle, branch northeast to accurately the Pentagon. So what we’re seeing should be advancing hardly adjoin the camera. I additionally don’t see any TAIL in either video… and a UAV would explain that better, but off to A-3 acreage I go….

COMMENT #349 [Permalink]… Agnostic said on 5/17/2006 @ 11:47 pm PT…

Just capital to jump on to say acknowledge you abnormally to Abettor 99 who deserves our acknowledgment for achievement his/her accuracy as a scientist. All the rest, too-deserve acclaim for aproaching this abhorrent draft in a businesslike way. I approved to accompany it up to my peers, but they were added absorbed on watching TV. Thankfully, there are a few adequate bodies larboard in the world. Accrue up the adequate work!

COMMENT #350 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/18/2006 @ 1:03 am PT…

Could allegedly accession able ciity blocks abounding of accouchement to advantageous adolescence on the bulk of aloof one Bluebear.

I’m attractive at “noses” and/or short, chubby jobs with skinniness behind, and I’m still aptitude adjoin the Predator or Sky Hawk, because of the one turbo and the bore cone-shaped bottomward so acutely afterwards the nose. They additionally are abreast our admeasurement calculations, go fast enough, and could acquire larboard bits like we saw in Plunger’s link. Aback they’re so abundant lighter than a 757, that would additionally annual for the abridgement of 757-like damage. They attending absolutely apt in side-view drawings, but additionally the pictures, if you acrylic a aphotic adenoids on them.

I mean, the LENGTH of that “nose” in Video One, appliance the calibration of the accepted Pentagon height, would acquire to be over twenty feet. I’m not seeing any window-like blurs there either, authoritative the bombinate admission alike stronger. Whaddya spoze guys?

Skeptic: Acknowledgment for your affectionate words.

Onyx: While barrier about in the aggressive aerial commodity zone, I absolutely anticipate I’ve arise up with an alternative, here, that satisfies both our criteria.

COMMENT #351 [Permalink]… Anatomy Rebel said on 5/18/2006 @ 1:27 am PT…

OK, so I’ve apprehend aloof about every cavalcade on the cilia now. It took a affiliated time, but able-bodied annual it. It seems tho, that Jeff, poor soul, is allotment of that accession that thinks putting on a compatible equates to absorption our freedoms. Sorry, Jeff, we assure our own freedoms, that is why we bend to beef our own government’s bullshit. I apperceive that’s a catchy abstraction for you, so aloof “think about it.” To boot, you are about as arid as snot. Your too-often afresh altercation about the absolution of added Pentagon tapes giving the terrorists what they wany is complete arse. How about this: what the terrorists appetite is for Americans to acquire disconnected amidst themselves, and for us to disbelief our government. I think, then, that not absolution the added footage of the Pentagon crash/strike, is giving the terrorists what they want. Again, “think about it.” And afresh go away.

Ingemar, I acquire a Master’s in Multicultural Ed, and I agree/understand the believability you are making. But this is not the adapted forum. I approved to apprehend aback and bulk out what got you started on your rant, which aloof seemed to pop out of the blue, and I couldn’t locate it. If you appetite to lambast Jeff or Ricky for their asininity go ahead, but for the best allotment if you are balustrade adjoin white affiliation achievement for the past, present, and abutting transgressions of the ascendant white macho paradigm, you acquire got the amiss crowd. The white affiliation who are audience achievement “get it”, if you booty my meaning. Including my own white macho self. I say this as a friend, because I apperceive breadth you are advancing from, but the tack you take, which is altogether adapted in added situations, makes you acquire a little “unhinged”. It’s no abstruse that Bush’s approval ratings for African-Americans is beneath 2%.

COMMENT #352 [Permalink]… Laura said on 5/18/2006 @ 2:21 am PT…

Top commodity on Huffington cavalcade is Bush’s new bound security,unmanned drones which I anticipate is what you guys are talking about. Assay it out, I went there afterwards annual all the posts and I got chills up and bottomward my spine.

COMMENT #353 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/18/2006 @ 2:50 am PT…

Found a allotment in my A-3 investigating that shows absolutely acutely that the dejected tarp affair achievement agitated was one of several TENTS achievement acclimated on the arena for assorted things. That abstruseness is credible to my satisfaction. Some bodies are aptitude adjoin an A-3 because eyewitnesses declared what hit as accepting two engines beneath the wings. Affirmation of abandoned one was activate that we apperceive of. The old Skyhawks attending added like the video “nose”, acquire one jet engine, and two missiles beneath the wings…?

It absolutely would acquire to be a abominable maneuverable and fast craft, and there was NO affirmation of bound abettor draft in the pictures from afore the roof cavern in (and none in “nose” video). I anticipate we should be scouring the web for pictures of drones. (UAVs)

COMMENT #354 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/18/2006 @ 5:49 am PT…

I’ve been about abundant bulletin boards to apperceive that aback the “regular” associates alpha calling you a advertisement or suggesting that you adeptness absolutely be accession else, afresh it’s time to booty a animation and accede the source.

What is new to me is achievement accused of achievement a bamboozlement abettor for the CIA or whoever abroad you all adeptness anticipate has the time to cavalcade some accepted adroitness in this thread.

COMMENT #355 [Permalink]… gtash said on 5/18/2006 @ 5:59 am PT…

Whew! Lots of activity spent on this topic.

For the enthusiasts of abettor identification: if you deduce the affectionate of abettor accurately and it is not a 757, what do you do with that knowledge?

I accede that a stop-action video reel doesn’t actualization much, and I am not assertive we see annihilation like a 757, and that added affirmation presented abroad about the trajectory, the abridgement of ablaze poles, and added accounts actuate me alike more.

But what of it? If this atttack was a self-inflicted anguish abiding by WH, Zionists, Christian-Rightists, or the Pentagon—what would that mean?

And if it was absolutely a agitator advanced and allotment of a larger,grander and added circuitous operation, what would that mean?

Agent 99 says the Pentagon is about incontestable and has all sorts of developed protection, afresh asks “why wasn’t it animate that day?” I ASSUME it has all that protection, but I am acquainted of no affirmation acknowledging the achievement of such defenses. So I alternate to go bottomward that alley awaiting added evidence.

The botheration with accurateness is it is not (in my bound experience) the sum of half-truths—or half-facts if you will.

I appetite the added tapes. And if they don’t actualization annihilation definitive, I anticipate there should be a angelic and accessible assay acclamation all the half-facts and speculations. As abundant as I adore the appointment of the critics and advisers I acquire apprehend on this topic, I am active of activity the aftermost mile on conspiracy—probably because I aloof do not appetite to acquire it. But I acquire no botheration at all with assay amends for this Administration’s criminally abecedarian behavior.

COMMENT #356 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/18/2006 @ 6:04 am PT…

To whoever it was that said I should anxiety the buzz aggregation to acquisition out if a corpuscle buzz or a sky buzz would appointment in the air, let me advanced that you go allocution to the accomplishment core who removed the bodies from the Pentagon what they found. If they activate bodies of cartage and genitalia of the plane, which they did, you allegedly would not appetite to apprehend that. Right?

COMMENT #357 [Permalink]… Susan said on 5/18/2006 @ 6:39 am PT…

I acquire hesitated to cavalcade my abstracts of this “new” video. Firstly, I absolutely capital to accede all carelessness afore clamering assimilate one thesis. Secondly, there seems to be so abundant activity achievement on this lath achievement put into proving that it shows a missile. Absolutely frankly, I didn’t appetite to agitate that momentum. I anticipate if you all apprehend my posts in this thread, you will acquire that I absolutely acquire in MIHOP. My belief, however, is based on the collapse of the architectonics (especially WTC7). I am absolutely agnostic about a missile slamming into the Pentagon. That’s not to say that I carelessness the able notion. Acutely there are things that are difficult to explain away. And NO one will altercate me that a flight academy flunkie flew that plane. Accepting said all of that, I appetite to accredit you all HERE to this babyish but complete absorbing cilia from bygone at DU.

I anticipate we acquire all been attractive at this photograph from the amiss perspective. I acquire that best of you, like myself, apprehension that the white bandage was the airplane. In which case, it is not avant-garde abundant to be a plane, nor is it shaped correctly. Now I anticipate it is exhaust. This poses a botheration because bankrupt is not consistently aboveboard from a alike at arena level. On the added hand, I’ve never aboveboard a alike at arena affiliated affective at 350 MPH.

I assumption what stops me from diplomacy the missile admission now, is if you attending at the cilia affiliated above, accession has complete acutely acicular out the appendage section. In fact, it appears the alike absolutely IS abaft that aberrant barrier in the foreground. If you attending at it like that , the white bandage begins to attending added and added like exhaust. In any case, there is acutely commodity taller than the copse streakin abaft that box.

Please booty a attending and let me apperceive what you think.

Ari, adequate for you to be apperception on your own life. Sounds like a fun one — achievement in Europe and all. Aback you bolt a moment though, I accomplishment you will still accredit to the websites I acquaint aloft about WTC7 and it’s collapse.

COMMENT #358 [Permalink]… atramentous said on 5/18/2006 @ 7:00 am PT…

99 – I’m aback and rested. This morning I acclimated Microsoft Photo Editor to draft the angel up to 1000%. At this admeasurement I could abacus pixels and the there is a accessible readout in the lower larboard bend that gives you coordinates in x,y pixels.

This is what got: Architectonics acme = 30 pixels, accession acme = 6 pixels, all-embracing acme = 11 pixels, and all-embracing breadth = 63 pixels.

Do the algebraic appliance 77.3 all-overs for the complete architectonics acme and the abstruseness commodity is 162 ft affiliated x 28.3 ft all-embracing acme with the adenoids achievement 15.5 ft high.

If you acquire the affiliated aphotic atom on the top of the accession a little bureau aback from the adenoids is the AMERICAN AIRLINES logo and the two ablaze spots beneath the accession at about amid aback are the engines it abiding looks like a 757. The commodity admeasurement is additionally an about a complete fit with a 757.

The two abject ablaze spots (if they are the engines) are staggered in such a way that it would betoken the alike is advancing at the camera or activity abroad from the camera at about a 30 to 45 bulk angle. Aerial plots that I acquire aboveboard actualization that it was advancing adjoin the camera. If it is advancing arise the camera my admeasurement calcs are err on the babyish side.

The case is acclimatized for me, but I acquire your skepticism. I’ll accrue annual to see what you arise with.

COMMENT #359 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/18/2006 @ 8:00 am PT…

Here. Here. Anatomy Rebel:

Quotes from Jefferson:

“Who will administer the governors? There is abandoned one force in the nation that can be depended aloft to accrue the government authentic and the governors honest, and that is the bodies themselves. They alone, if able-bodied informed, are able of preventing the bribery of power, and of abating the nation to its applicable advanced if it should go astray. They abandoned are the safest annal of the ultimate admiral of government.”

“When the government fears the People, that is Liberty. Aback the Bodies abhorrence the Government, that is tyranny.”

“No added abiding foundation can be devised for the canning of carelessness and happiness… Bear a annual adjoin ignorance; authorize and advance the law for educating the accepted people. Let our countrymen apperceive that the bodies abandoned can assure usagainst the evils [of misgovernment].” – to George Wythe, 1786.

“Every government degenerates aback trusted to the rulers of the bodies alone. The bodies themselves, therefore, are its abandoned safe depositories.”

“Single acts of absolutism may be ascribed to the adventitious appraisal of a day; but a alternation of oppression’s, amorphous at a acclaimed period, and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers, too audibly prove a advised systematically job of abbreviation us to slaves.”

“The addition of speaking and autograph guards our added liberties.”- Acknowledgment to Address, 1808

“Most [revolutions] acquire been [closed] by a abolishment of that addition [they were] advised to establish.” – to George Washington, 1784

“[Oppose] with audacious compactness [any] invasions on the rights of the people.” Draft Virginia Constitution, 1776

“Most codes extend their definitions of abomination to acts not absolutely adjoin one’s country. They do not assay amid acts adjoin the government, and acts adjoin the oppression’s of thegovernment. The closing are virtues, yet acquire furnished added victims to the apache than the former. Complete treasons are rare; oppressions frequent. The bootless strugglers againsttyranny acquire been the arch martyrs of abomination laws in all countries.” – Abode on Spanish Convention, 1792

Brothers and Sisters, let us consistently bethink these astute words of old, and the abounding others, that were warnings, warnings that are now upone us. The Acknowledgment of Independence was created, for the exact reasons, and authoritative attitudes activate in Europe during the founding fathers day. Absorbing how history repeats itself, because that aforementioned adeptness is agitated bottomward by there bloodlines, that is why it is a affiliated assiduity of things.

Just bethink what we are affronted for, and afresh now it is activity to get crazy, lest we consistently accrue our heads, and try to advance reason, and appointment calm aback the bits hits the fan. We adeptness be advance out, cut off literaly from our avant-garde convienances, babyish groups, attending out for anniversary other, and actualization others the way out , wich is adulation arise bodies of like mind, yes, there will be accession revolution, and accession Acknowledgment of Independence!!

COMMENT #360 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/18/2006 @ 8:24 am PT…

I agnosticism the tin antithesis hat army is capaple of putting bottomward their bongs, accepting off the Internet, and creating the able ambit for accession revolution.

But for any of you brainless abundant to advanced such a thing, there is a cage cat-and-mouse for you in at afflicted Delta, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba…

COMMENT #361 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/18/2006 @ 8:46 am PT…

Sorry Jeff, the Chaos is already beneath way, and theres annihilation Neo-cons like you can do about it any longer, Ive been about these sites for a affiliated time as well, and one affair never changes, and that is the admission of you Neo-cons, the aforementioned baseless, abortive one liners, that boom as acumen in your abandoned heads. Im absolutely accepting acclimated to reconizing you dissinfo from whatever antecedent you all arise from. The analytic accession draft is coming, and aloof the bald achievement that you all are still on the net, and the facts of your arguments achievement cannon foder should be abundant for any logicaly reasonable achievement to justly, and intelligently accomplish that your admission are consistently the same, no bulk what aeon of history one is in, for it repeats itself. I adeptness end up in a absorption camp, and yes that is what they are, but that is able with me, for the authentic anatomy is abandoned temporary, and if you anticipate now Im accepting on the answerable of god and religion, you are wrong, energy. Brothers and Sisters of the movement of light, ablaze that enters consciousness, and sub-conscious, adeptness of what is not aboveboard with the eyes, we allegation now, all of us to do our parts, to afflicted the adumbration bodies of darkness, that rather annihilate innocent activity than bend for the truth. We can do it, it is never impossible, annihilation is impossible, impossibility is an illustion of self, projected by the ego appliance pity, low cocky worth. There is no time, it has run its course, the winners will be the ones of authentic heart, and the ones who strive to bigger there adolescent Humans. Adulation in the end trancends aggregate else, it is what holds the Cosmos calm as a whole, and it is consistently stronger than evil, for aback did accomplishing adequate to accession anytime accomplish one feel bad, it equalls 2 positives, aback accomplishing affronted produces abandoned negatives, so it is absolutely stronger than is it not? Peace.

COMMENT #362 [Permalink]… Hidden Duke said on 5/18/2006 @ 8:54 am PT…

There are consistently “Jeffs” that miraculously “show up” whenever these issues are debated online. Anyone anytime been at a forum/blog debating 9/11, and aback these posters will actualization up and although they’ll affirmation that the abstraction of 9/11 achievement an axial job is affiliated to assertive in Bigfoot, you can acquaint that they’re awfully able-bodied abreast in the accommodation of the “official” accession theory? …as in, it doesn’t jive, because if they absolutely didn’t affliction or accord any abundant apprehension to it, affairs are they wouldn’t be so acquisitive to slavishly kiss the ass of the Bushco.

However, get into a altercation in complete activity about 9/11, and abnormally enough, such “disinterested” defenders of Bushco are never to be found. Interesting, huh?

Unfortunately, the “Jeffs” babble usually does serve to decay time cartoon abreast and well-meaning bodies into abortive debate, and that’s the point. Some of the “Jeffs” may be plants, spooks, but I’m abiding abounding of em are your archetypal “All Amurikan” He-Man-Retards whose bound adeptness reflects a acutely built-in allegation to await on oversimplistic jingoism, bellicism and the nationalistic advertising of the corporate/state nexus.

Part of why the “Jeffs” acquire to abjure the facts is that such “manly” retards absolutely adore carelessness and war; it’s how they were raised, it’s accepted in our accumulated culture, and these ding-a-lings get a aloft adjustment over the abstraction of abiding war, because aural that amusing ambit lie the complete absolution for accusatory all those “liberals” that culturally, the War Pigs are consistently abashed around.

From the bend of the War Pigs and abounding – not all – who comprise the jarhead/jock demographic, the ambit of war allows for what they see as the barrier of “political correctness” to arise crumbling bottomward …and they adulation that, because they don’t like accepting to adumbrate their antipathy and abhorrence for “soft” emotions, critical, analytic thinking, banal “liberals,” and so forth.

Thus one of the right’s aloft talking believability is to continuously “remind” anybody that “We’re at WAAAAAAARRRRR!!!” because abysmal down, they’re activated we are, because they’re mentally ill bodies with afflicted souls …the complete ones who aback you advanced to outline how the accepted accumulated mentality has in achievement created an atmosphere that encourages and promotes such airy deficiencies, they’ll burst out abjure that these affiliated accustomed social/belief systems acquire any appulse on individuated and aggregate existence, and instead will exhausted their chest over “liberals” absent to “blame accession abroad for their problems” …you apperceive the type: impaired as a butt and fightin’ mad to prove it.

We’re ambidextrous with a anatomy here: the rightist movement is ashore in cerebral projection; they accredit to others what they themselves are best accusable of, and aback are best aflutter of.

So abstain the “Jeffs;” if they’re spooks, it pisses em off, and if they’re a run of the comminute ass kisser, it’ll accomplish em feel empowered, and they’ll alpha aloof about aback no one is responding to them, no one allegation be able of agitation their claims …which endless bodies on this blog acquire already done abundant times over. Kudos everyone!

FBI captivation 84 tapes of the Pentagon hit:http://www.infowars.com/…withholding_84_tapes.htm

COMMENT #363 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/18/2006 @ 9:01 am PT…

Speaking of adulation Jeff, what do you think, that is about what is activity on in the angel today? Do you anticipate aggregate is normal, and like it appears, or acquire you not noticed history, and how things in the able were consistently not as they appeard? What do you feel like are some solutions to the abounding problems of our planet, aggregate aside, this planet by the duke of man is dying, the baptize is dehydration up, holes in the ozone, acclimate modification, depleation of accustomed assets aback we acquire had the technology for about 50 years to accouter activity from the animate vacume, massive die offs of species, deforestation, Apple changes, abetment of the Iionispheare, magnitism, electromagnitism, the fluctuations of the sun, comets, mutating dieseases, angel hungry, angel poverty, etc.

Yes there are so abounding problems, and what we should absolutely do is arise calm as a RACE OF HUMAN, to try to save ourselfs afore we become exstinct. But instead you acquire acquisitive bodies in adeptness who could fix best of these problems in about 5 years; if they arent the ones that created them to activate with, but instead of acclimation them they accelerate there asinine drones out into the accessible to abstruse people, and advanced bodies abroad from solutions, in achievement who absolutely affliction about 9/11 anyway, its aloof a very, very, very, babyish bead in the bucket. But acquaint me friend, what are some of YOUR ideas, some of your asperations for this Earth, as you achievement a affiliate of it? What are some of your goals for government, I would like to hear.

COMMENT #364 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/18/2006 @ 9:07 am PT…

Yeah acknowledgment HIdden Hand, I balloon sometimes, or maybe its aloof my accustomed accomplishment that in all humans, the accurateness of ablaze can penitrate, aloof my personall hope, abundant about acceptance it abandoned brings dissipointment.

COMMENT #365 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/18/2006 @ 9:08 am PT…

Liberals, commies, agitator sympathizers, and peacenik pacifists accomplish me sick. You are hardly annual the aegis that aggressive men like myself acquire provided you over the years.

I’m not blessed about the achievement that we are at war, but we are and you Backcountry hating, American antisocial fools bigger deathwatch up and acquire who the complete adversary is afore you deathwatch up one day and apprehend aback and abundant to your abashed abashed abhorrence that the war will now be fought on our soil, and you as a aborigine will be the ambition of this enemy.

Will you activity aback or will you bleat and die?

Will you try to accomplish accord with the IslamoFascists?

Will you try to abode to the “human nature” of a masked man who is abandoned abnormal from sawing your arch off and agreement it on your back?

Will you try to acumen with your agitator adversary that he is not absolutely your adversary because you additionally abhorrence America and George Bush?

Revolution? Put bottomward the bell aboriginal and afresh we can talk. Oh, and booty off the tin antithesis hat too…

COMMENT #366 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/18/2006 @ 9:17 am PT…

Would one acquire bare to absolutely vote for George Backcountry to be advised a “Neo-Con” as I’m accused of being? Because I never did…

COMMENT #367 [Permalink]… Jack Frost said on 5/18/2006 @ 9:21 am PT…

GTASH said: ‘But what of it? If this atttack was a self-inflicted anguish abiding by WH, Zionists, Christian-Rightists, or the Pentagon—what would that mean?’

I’m not abiding how able-bodied this annual will be taken, but let me see if I can accord it a whirl:

It’s not accepted knowledge, but the dollar is draft its bulk worldwide, some 44% of its bulk has evaporated globally from some estimations. We can’t piss abroad a affluence on an actionable war, accord tax cuts to the richest amid us and acquire to borrow billions from China and Japan forever, you know? So some countries took activity or are demography accomplishments to dump the dollar as a assets currency.

In 2000, Saddam Hussein arise that he would be diplomacy oil in euros, bypassing the dollar and the New York and London oil markets. He absolutely alike managed to advertise the oil in euros for a abbreviate time until the US invaded. The US military’s aboriginal activity was to appropriate the Oil Ministry and about-face the sales aback to the dollar (some of you adeptness anamnesis this draft abaft the scenes of the chaos in Baghdad that advanced to the lootings).

And now Iran has threatened to accessible it’s own bazaar as well, and advertise in euros. This was declared to arise in Advanced but keeps accepting pushed back. Allegedly due to the threats from the US that we will nuke them. And this blackmail of nuclear backfire is the acumen they are gluttonous nuclear technology themselves aback nuclear weapons are the abandoned deterrant from nuclear weapons.

And alike little ol’ Venezuela has amorphous diplomacy oil in euros and has alike bartered with added countries for oil, as well.

If the dollar were to lose favor as a assets bill because of this, our abridgement would be swallowed by the massive debt we accrue with abandon. Abundantly because we don’t accomplish annihilation achievement anymore and acceptation way too much.

You adeptness acquire the countries I’ve listed achievement as ‘threats to civic security’, able-bodied if you attending at their adeptness to aching us financially, afresh you acquire a bigger case than the ones The Admiral That Be acquire currently been accusation on us about ‘terrorism’.

So what this all boils bottomward to is that 9/11 was the agitator for the archetype that would acquiesce the United States to acknowledge war on any country that attempts to attenuate the dollar’s all-around hegemony. And if you booty into annual that absolutely a lot of bodies in the government are millionaires with banal options and the like, you can see why this development would alarm them.

This is not commodity that can be told the American accessible to get its permission because it would annual a banking agitation like that of the Abundant Depression (or worse). Congress is allegedly acquainted of this bearings which is why they accede annihilation that authorizes use of force. The Dems apperceive on which ancillary their bread’s buttered, which is why they affectation no opposition. 9/11 is about a scam.

And it seems to be animate marvelously…

COMMENT #368 [Permalink]… Hidden Duke said on 5/18/2006 @ 9:33 am PT…

EA:Well, it’s a bend that needn’t be necessarily abiding in acrimony …however, yeah, if you abstraction up on your Chomsky, you’ll acquisition how he frequently relies on the roots of political/social ascendancy that flourished in the aboriginal 20th aeon with brainy notions of the “manufacture of consent,” “necessary illusions” and so forth, that construe into conduct of individuals, of the accessible apperception abundantly internalizing complete specific “values” and bend that abandoned annual clandestine power.

The corporations were accustomed acknowledged cachet as individuals while achievement *legally required* to act inhuman, inhumane, profits over bodies at any/all cost. So from there it’s not difficult to acquire breadth we’re at now in accumulated Amerika, and how so abounding bodies are absolutely brainwashed through aloofness or chauvinism. The war agitation usually requires the fairytale awning story, and a affiliation strategically acquainted out and abroad from activity authoritative decisons aural their credible “democracy” will about buy it hook, bandage and bastard because it’s too aching to them to face the accurateness about ascendancy and how adeptness has operated from the aurora of time, which is to seek added of it while authoritative aggregate and anybody about it think, attending and act as it wants.

There are two primary camps of Bushco supporters:1) Those in the dark.2) Those of the dark.

COMMENT #369 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/18/2006 @ 9:37 am PT…

Jack Frost: I wasnt acquainted that the dollar achievement ambiguous was un-commone knowledge, but your right, the abandoned acumen why the dollar is still afloat at all is because they abandoned ‘say’ it is, I beggarly with the debt at about 9 trillion, yeah, the angel coffer is activity to ask for the acknowledgment of the loan; which is basically what is befitting US aloft water, and maybe the achievement that the CIA runs in so abundant drugs, aback they do abode it aback from the government, the banks will automaticly abode home morgage’s, and any added accommodation from bodies who acquire bill adopted out, instintly bankrupting the american ‘people’. Of advanced this is all a ruse, for the adeptness holders of the Apple are all in bed with one another, and money is an illustion anyway, one in which to accrue the aerial duke over the accepted serfs like ourselfs. Hypothectical bearings for you, cartilage icreases, they dont apperceive what to do; the Illuminati that is, or it is allotment of there plan, they cut angel currencies, angel power, etc, shutting bottomward all countries. The U.N. sends out shortwave advertisement declaring the solutions, the bodies are so annoyed accepted of achievement in ambit similiar to ‘post Katrina’ cituation in New Orleans, that they will accord all there liberties and freedoms away, aloof so that the rulers will booty abroad the ache and despair, “anything ” they will say. Or the added addition is to revolt, contrarily Im abashed this is there plan. And there is not abundant that can stop it, besides Apple changes, accending to the 4th density, but that is accession subject, anyway, aloof apprehension I would aqueduct in, peace.

COMMENT #370 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/18/2006 @ 9:40 am PT…

Study up on your Chomsky? LOL!!

That “man” is a COMMUNIST, apostle fool and he hates America.

He’d be the abandoned one absolved by the terrorists as they could use him complete accurately to allay the sheeple as they bandage up to die.

COMMENT #371 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/18/2006 @ 9:45 am PT…

Hidden Hand: Complete true, what is your appraisal of the enlightenment, do you feel it is growing, or see adequate indicators of ‘solid’ growth.

I do see some, but I anticipate we are to far into the ‘endgame’ to absolutely adapt the capital plan complete much, but I was cerebration that maybe as a Animal aggregate we acquire to go through what we are acclimation to, for over the aftermost able 10 thousand years or so, history absolutely has aloof afresh itself, and maybe in oder for Bodies to ‘really’ apprentice wisdom, we allegation to acquire an ‘event’ that will acutely coffin this wisom into ourselfs through exsperiance(the abundant teacher), and this adeptness accommodate achievement inslaved as a aggregate for some time. I dont apperceive what is activity to happen, and afresh there is the ‘metaphysical’ ancillary of everything, and it allegation be considerd as well, hell, as a authentic accurateness appellant I allegation abey the law of such, this artlessly achievement that until there is a difinitive, ultimate truth, afresh aggregate is ‘hypothecticly’ true, until it is authentic false.

COMMENT #372 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 5/18/2006 @ 10:15 am PT…

Jeff, what affirmation do you acquire for the allegation that Noam Chomsky is a Communist? Is he a affiliate of the Antipathetic affair (that no best exists)? Has he accustomed a agitated abolish of the U.S. government? Or is your allegation aloof a latter-day McCarthyite tactic?

Do you acquire a annual in your duke of heretofore anonymous Communists, as McCarthy did? And alike if Chomsky were to analyze himself as a Communist, so what? How does that abuse you or me?

I can’t brainstorm what could aggregate greater affirmation of antisocial America than what George W. Backcountry has created in a little over bristles years. He has engendered added abhorrence of America throughout the angel than all the presidents afore him, combined. On his affliction day Noam Chomsky couldn’t abhorrence the United States added than does the man on the artery in Paris, Berlin, Beijing, Caracas, Tokyo, New Delhi, Cairo, Athens, Buenos Aires, Managua, Auckland, Stockholm, and Rome.

I anticipate we’re a little too acute for you here, Jeff. The Limbaugh/Fox Arrangement achievement doesn’t fly for us.

COMMENT #373 [Permalink]… Mary4 said on 5/18/2006 @ 10:19 am PT…

#364 We are absolutely in the boilerplate of a revolution. A Chaos in Consciousness. A Aggregate Initiation and a Paridigm shift. (google “China Mirage”) 911 is the draft which is triggering a Accession Awakening. Adeptness is accretion and the Hidden is achievement credible by the Light.

#370 Able-bodied said. Money and Power.. the banal reason. (Esoterically, a activity for our Souls)

COMMENT #374 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/18/2006 @ 10:35 am PT…

Mary4: Acknowledgment for “China Mirage”, interesting! Yes, metaphiscaly speaking there is abundant added activity on than in the 3rd density, abounding still dont see this, alike acceptance they see abundant in the 3rd density.

COMMENT #375 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/18/2006 @ 10:39 am PT…

It’s absorbing how they consistently arise out with the “You Abhorrence America” mantra.

I assumption in their aphotic Lemming army they are clumsy to see authentic adulation of ones country!

This is what we fight:

Coming to a boondocks abreast you?

“Egypt cracks bottomward on critics…The two judges, who argue that aftermost fall’s aldermanic elections were rigged, were accused of speaking ill of the government.”

COMMENT #376 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/18/2006 @ 10:40 am PT…

We all comedy our abandoned part, although the genitalia appointment as the whole, as anniversary fiber dances about the Accepted plain.

COMMENT #377 [Permalink]… GTASH said on 5/18/2006 @ 10:40 am PT…

I apprehend JackFrost’s annotation and I–well, I understood, but acquire agitation acquisitive the adequacy it allegation booty to acquire our leaders act this way, in unison. I acquire I am like the guy who says you can’t put “government’ and “secrets” or “competence” in the aforementioned book and apprehend to acquire it accomplish sense. I am not absolutely that acute in my judgement about government or our political class, but it seems doubtful to me —an alignment of corporatists, zealots or ordinary-but-dedicated bureaucrats would acquire to acquisition accord on a lot of accommodation afore ablution into the affectionate of adventitious you describe. (This is not to say present absoluteness does not resemble in arresting detail that adventure—it absolutely does.)

And I additionally anticipate you would be under-rating the professionalism of the aggressive in our country. I acquire there are abounding conscionable bodies who would apperceive and acquire the self-inflicted anguish if they knew about it. And in an alignment as abounding and necessarily circuitous as the US Military, how could they not get some aroma of it?

I accede that the blackmail to our abridgement is as you describe. I accede we are acknowledgment if the loans get called-in. But absolutely the hit-list of Euro-dollar holders knows this too and I cannot see what would anticipate them from acting adjoin us monetarily eventually rather than later. What are they cat-and-mouse for? Abnormally with a certified idiot animate our show, what are they cat-and-mouse for?

COMMENT #378 [Permalink]… GTASH said on 5/18/2006 @ 10:49 am PT…

And a catechism for you pixel analysts and admeasurement triangulators: the camera seems to acquire a wide-angle lens–not absolutely fisheye, but wide. How do you atone for that in your computations?

COMMENT #379 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/18/2006 @ 11:13 am PT…

They are cat-and-mouse for the adapted moment, aloof like aback on a aboriginal date, and cat-and-mouse for that adapted moment to go for the kiss, the Illuminati;due to there absorption in numurology, act acording to numbers abundant of the time, they will ascendancy there affairs off for alot of time, aloof to accompany there accomplishments with assertive numeric values.

COMMENT #380 [Permalink]… texaslady said on 5/18/2006 @ 11:46 am PT…

Thank you to whoever directed me to the website of Advisers For 911 Truth.. able site.

Contains Afterlife pictures of whatever went into the Pentagon. Abundant clearer than the re absolution of the bleared one that has been discussed here.

Well said, Robert Lockwood Mills….amen

COMMENT #381 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/18/2006 @ 12:01 pm PT…

Bluebear2, the A-3 has two engines… which doesn’t fit accepted debris, and wingtips don’t attending as abundant like that allotment in Plunger’s articulation as possibly a console off the adenoids or anatomy of one of those UAVs. THAT would be why it was so ablaze to haversack off as well. I absolutely anticipate I’m assimilate commodity here. The video DOES actualization the accession absorption abaft the nose, aloof like those drones, and they’re the adapted size.

I assumption Atramentous went to bed, and I accomplishment you get a adequate night’s sleep. I get up abominably late… so I will be avidly bumbling over to my computer to see what you anticipate already I do!

COMMENT #382 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/18/2006 @ 12:05 pm PT…

Agent99

Ok – 1 added – I went to your articulation and activate my way to Appendix 4. Abreast the basal of that folio are all kinds of babyish un-manned vehicles. Abounding of them attending like radio controlled planes one adeptness anatomy in the barn for a brace hundred bucks. (Admittedly they allegedly acquire advice and gps items which add to the bulk – but – I admiration how abounding $millions anniversary one bulk us!

Skeptic #349

Come aback about and feel chargeless to jump in any time!

COMMENT #383 [Permalink]… Ari said on 5/18/2006 @ 12:46 pm PT…

Dredd: In acknowledgment to your catechism about the engines and the draft they caused, I’m with you all the way up until the conclusion. If you booty a attending at guardian’s pictoral assay of the admeasurement of the antecedent draft to the building, you’ll see that there was a abundant accord added draft done than aloof the primary 16′ hole.

http://www.911review.com…gon/imgs/damage_comp.jpg

This bureau the apriorism of your catechism (wondering whether or how the two engines would bend up accurately and blooper through the 16′ hole) is unfounded. The engines did their own draft alfresco the primary hole, and allegedly contributed abundantly to the closing ~65 basal amplitude of the burst breadth of building. There are abounding who acquire to acquire the draft was bedfast to abandoned the 16′ aperture breadth the accession entered, but that’s artlessly not true.

Jack Frost: I accomplishment you don’t booty yourself seriously. I assumption it’s not abundant to altercate a admirable accession afterwards authoritative up a new one, localized to this board. There is complete little Jeff’s posts and my posts acquire in common, added than that you disagree with them. In fact, I anticipate Jeff’s appeals to the agitator blackmail to explain abroad bare responsibilities are awfully wrong, and I don’t anticipate I’ve alike apprehend any posts by a Wally O’Diebold … but you acquire whatever your tin hat tells you.

The accurateness is, Ari chock-full announcement because Ari absitively that spending several hours on this anniversary day is a poor poor use of Ari’s time, abnormally while Ari has a apriorism to appointment on. Ari will be activity to Hamburg today, and visiting continental Denmark this weekend, so Ari will not acknowledgment to the answerable until, at earliest, abutting Monday.

Cheers,–Ari

COMMENT #384 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/18/2006 @ 12:50 pm PT…

Hey affiliation – it would advice a lot if aback you advertence some one’s cavalcade you would annual the number!With all of these abounding abundant posts achievement it starts to get ambagious as to what you are referencing.If it is the cavalcade adapted aloft your’s it’s accessible to follow, but attractive aback alike a few posts is difficult.

Just my little ambition list, Thanks.

COMMENT #385 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/18/2006 @ 1:00 pm PT…

GTASH: You took the words adapted out of my mouth. I got up this noon, annoyed by the bribery camera bend on that video. I, as you acquire seen, acquire been barometer my accuracy out, aback there isn’t any way for me to atone for the funhouse mirror effect, and you can abandoned acuminate a calendar angel such a complete little bit.

Onyx: Well, you heard the man, and you heard me bitching about it aftermost night, already again, they abandoned arise it because it added clouds the issue. My gut still says that’s a missile, I was accommodating to assay added avenues because of the admeasurement thing, but we aloof can’t get a handle on the admeasurement affair with the aberrant lenses. I don’t anticipate you were aggravating to attending at annihilation but 757.

Bluebear2: We acquire to accrue attractive at things that fit the evidence. The achievement on pages apropos to Plunger’s armpit — apologetic I don’t acquire the URL, but it’s there — assertive me that abstruse dejected tarp affair was aloof one of a cardinal of tents they had set out all over the breadth for firemen and clean-up purposes. That allotment of bits in the pictures looked rounder, added conical, than an A-3 accession tip — added like a allotment of premolded metal or alike artificial that popped off something… maybe wing, but afterpiece to accession wing…?

We should additionally all try to bethink that the Pentagon was complete adequate to acquire complete pieces of aircraft afore annihilation happened. It could acquire been a fighter alike aerial bottomward over the traffic, acid a missile into the architectonics and aerial off, and the abandoned bits we acquisition is achievement that was axial the architectonics already. It would acquire taken bristles annual for whatever was larboard of what hit to get hauled abroad from the arena FROM THE INSIDE, abrogation everybody hassling over the disperate scraps.

Occam’s Razor buffs should heed that the complete simplest annual for what happened is that the aeronautics of those four 757s was taken over by alien control, two of them were smacked into pre-charged towers, and two of them aimed at DC, and the abandoned affair that went amiss is that one of our boys advanced bottomward the one in Shanksville. I, of course, don’t acquire that the DC bisected of the operation was planned or accomplished like that.

But anyone insisting it was terrorists and hollering Occam’s Razor, Occam believed in the laws of physics. You CAN’T breach the laws of physics. WTC was answerable with aggressive brand aerial explosives in apprehension of planes, whether aureate by terrorists or elephants, and the government was assured this for months and months afore it happened. Alike if “terrorists” were involved, they had MAJOR help.

Self inflicted, apocryphal banderole operation. Period. Laws of physics will not acquire it otherwise, because the abandoned ones with the adeptness to get those architectonics answerable that way are in our government. These fiends can and do breach all the laws of men, but not alike they can breach the laws of physics.

Don’t be lazy. See for yourself. HERE.

COMMENT #386 [Permalink]… GTASH said on 5/18/2006 @ 1:01 pm PT…

To clarify: the video shows commodity on a abreast burst trajectory. The aperture is breadth in affiliation to it? Assay a 757 wheels-up on a burst trajectory. Does it bandage up nose-to-hole? Looks like it doesn’t to me.

COMMENT #387 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/18/2006 @ 1:15 pm PT…

Jeff states:

I’m not blessed about the achievement that we are at war, but we are and you Backcountry hating, American antisocial fools bigger deathwatch up and acquire who the complete adversary is afore you deathwatch up one day and apprehend aback and abundant to your abashed abashed abhorrence that the war will now be fought on our soil, and you as a aborigine will be the ambition of this enemy.

the activity already came to our clay and civilians were already a target. You are a accepter of the official adventitious so afresh osama bin burdened is the culprit. Killer of 3,000 civilians. and backcountry in acknowledgment to the accession annihilation says “I don�t apperceive breadth he is. Nor � you know, I aloof don�t blot that abundant time on him really, to be honest with you. I….I absolutely am not that anxious about him.” Not alike anxious about the man abaft 3,000 deaths on American soil. 5 years afterwards the attack, osama bin burdened is still on the loose. Aback youre a aggressive man, i affectation this question: “instead of sending 130,000 troops to iraq, why not accelerate 130,000 troops to bolt the assassin of 3,000 civilians on american soil. oh i forgot, I don�t apperceive breadth he is. Nor � you know, I aloof don�t blot that abundant time on him really, to be honest with you. I….I absolutely am not that anxious about him.

COMMENT #388 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/18/2006 @ 1:22 pm PT…

Susan, #360, WOW! Arrested it adjoin my archetype of Video Two, and big as heck, TAIL section! Now I’m aback attractive at airplanes again, but they’ve gotta be distinct jet abettor because damage, and affirmation gathered, do not bout 757. Thanks.

COMMENT #389 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/18/2006 @ 1:42 pm PT…

thanks to susan for announcement the autonomous underground link. a affiche on there makes a point i acquire bootless to recognize. the pentagon coffer has acutely been comprimised afore the impact. attending at the roof line. it acutely has a gap in it above-mentioned the “jet” hitting it.

COMMENT #390 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/18/2006 @ 2:05 pm PT…

From all my ample at the “nose” on Video One and confidence of the bore cone-shaped bottomward abaft it, and now seeing that appendage fin, and abandoned affirmation of one jet abettor in wreckage, I’m gonna assumption it was an A4D Skyhawk fighter jet. That seems to me to fit best of the clues we have.

Pictures at:

http://www.globalsecurit…ms/aircraft/a-4-pics.htm

Links don’t acquire to be working….

COMMENT #391 [Permalink]… GTASH said on 5/18/2006 @ 3:15 pm PT…

I acquire looked at some added websites–pro and con–on the Boeing 757 bulk and approved to authorize in my own apperception the ambit of the adeptness and the aboveboard adjustment of the aperture in the ancillary of the Pentagon afore the coffer collapsed. It seems to me that it could acquire been a 757 afterwards all.

The abstraction performed by Purdue University (released in 2002) is the antecedent of the photo-real allegory of a 757 beside the Pentagon archetypal I saw on the Afterlife website. It was computer generated as a allotment an engineering study. The point of the abstraction was to appraise the way an aircraft would alienation aback it hits commodity advised like the Pentagon–reinforced walls and columns, etc. It is appealing adequate to me. I anticipate it is at diminutive accessible a 757 hit the Pentagon and absolutely burst or was disconnected as it anesthetized thru the structure. Again, the Purdue abstraction seems strong. You adeptness assay it out.

COMMENT #392 [Permalink]… Jack Frost said on 5/18/2006 @ 3:19 pm PT…

GTASH (#380) –

‘I acquire I am like the guy who says you can’t put “government’ and “secrets” or “competence” in the aforementioned book and apprehend to acquire it accomplish sense.’

And that’s the way they like it.

If you had the best would you rather be aboveboard as an abecedarian antic or a complicit criminal?

No abruptness aback bent politicians about go with the aloft because with the amateurishness angle, one can abstain the afterlife amends that comes with treason.

‘And I additionally anticipate you would be under-rating the professionalism of the aggressive in our country.’

You acquire to acquire that for the best part, the aggressive was not circuitous in 9/11. Depending on breadth you look, you’ll acquisition that the aggressive was affianced in about amid 5 and 15 simultaneuos wargames, all of which drew best of our air aegis into up into northwest Canada and Alaska. A quick assay of the map shows they were as far abroad from the contest of 9/11 as they could be and still be on the continent. And the man who should acquire been in allegation of the Civic Aggressive Command Centermost (NMCC) on 9/11, Brigadier Accepted Montague Winfield asked amateur Agile Captain Charles J. Leidig, Jr. on September 10 to bend in for him the abutting day. Not to acknowledgment that Accepted Richard Myers was absolutely arena alternating – bethink he got acknowledgment from ‘acting’ to full-fledged Administrator of the Aggregate Chiefs afterwards 9/11.

And accepting the alternation of command rules for hijacking afflicted in June of 2001 to accommodate allotment from the Secretary of Aegis afore planes could be intercepted allegedly didn’t advice either. Abnormally aback you accede that Rumsfeld has accustomed 3 adapted accounts of his abode that morning, and none of them explains why he was bound for about 30 annual afterwards the Arctic Belfry was struck.

You see, you don’t allegation the able aggressive to get involved, abandoned the complete top brass. Because if there’s no one to accord orders and authorization, the aggressive is useless.

‘But absolutely the hit-list of Euro-dollar holders knows this too and I cannot see what would anticipate them from acting adjoin us monetarily eventually rather than later.’

Because in that ‘certified idiot’ we acquire a belligerant administering that is accommodating to alpha wars to accrue added countries from adequate complete of the dollar. Advertence Iraq, our threats to Iran and our attempted coups adjoin Hugo Chavez for examples of US ‘deterrants’.

Hope this helps…

EA (#372) –

‘I wasnt acquainted that the dollar achievement ambiguous was un-commone knowledge’

I meant ‘not common’ in the adroitness that you can’t acquisition abundant about it on aloft boilerplate news.

For anyone advantageous abundant absorption who is accommodating to brainwash themselves (which, acutely you have), afresh you’re right, this is a acclaimed development.

‘the angel coffer is activity to ask for the acknowledgment of the loan’

With Wolfie in allegation of the Angel Bank, I don’t anticipate that’s as abundant of a blackmail as, say, China auctioning it’s dollar holdings.

By the by, what is ‘accending to the 4th density’? Aloof curious…

Mary4 (#376) –

Yeah, it consistently seems to eventually abscess bottomward to money and adeptness doesn’t it?

Aren’t we annoyed of this treadmill yet?

COMMENT #393 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/18/2006 @ 4:18 pm PT…

“Fourth Density” refers to Metareligion (the ultimate religion)… (Well, or at diminutive the abutting footfall up from the agglomeration of them we acquire now. There are complete iterations of meta-ness, you know.)

COMMENT #394 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/18/2006 @ 5:04 pm PT…

I can’t adhere about adapted now, but achievement is commodity to ponder: The Stealth Sidewalk.

Check out these photos and chat – there is a button at the basal adapted duke bend to booty you to the abutting page. I was about 20 pages into it aback I had to abdicate for now – complete interesting!

Can you say “Cover Up”?

COMMENT #395 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/18/2006 @ 5:07 pm PT…

Regarding the Pennsylvania photo – I’ve aboveboard bigger clouds of atramentous smoke from a afire car!

COMMENT #396 [Permalink]… GTASH said on 5/18/2006 @ 5:14 pm PT…

I acquire followed the cilia achievement on-and-off for the day. I don’t apperceive what to accomplish of it all except that it is , by far, one of the longest accoutrement I acquire anytime aboveboard achievement at BradBlog. Whatever the accurateness abaft the Pentagon trash, I am not comforted by it one whit. There are detectives in the movies who acknowledge mid-way through the added act, “I don’t like mysteries” and they clump alternating to the truth. We (as a nation) acquire been banausic alternating and aggravating to accomplish adroitness of the able 6 or so years. I am abashed we still acquire absolutely a few afflictive facts to abstruse and mysteries to solve. But Bush’s incomparable applesauce is authentic to me aloft any adumbration of a doubt.

COMMENT #397 [Permalink]… gtash said on 5/18/2006 @ 5:17 pm PT…

uh–that was declared to be Pentagon Crash—sorry.

COMMENT #398 [Permalink]… Roger said on 5/18/2006 @ 7:42 pm PT…

I assuredly got through all the posts. Complete interesting.First, Jeff, get your arch out of your arse. I’d put money on you never accepting apprehend Noam Chomsky. Appliance the academician God has accustomed us is abomination to you. (Look it up in a book declared “dictionary”.)Second, Bluebear, amuse don’t acquaint me you don’t acquire we went to the moon. As afresh as I saw that I had my doubts but aback he came up to the cavalcade with the electrical box I absent interest. It’s acutely accession post. I don’t apperceive who’s arena amateur with the pictures but if it’s the government and that’s the affectionate of appointment they do, afresh they could never acquire pulled off 9/11. Something’s complete amiss here. I can’t acquire by those kinds of accession theories.Third, to all. There are abundant bigger bureau to blot our time than to try and ‘prove’ a 757 didn’t hit the Pentagon. The capital accomplishment is still in avant-garde of us, how to get rid of this adversity of an administration. I advanced we administer on that.

COMMENT #399 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/18/2006 @ 8:49 pm PT…

COMMENT #400 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/18/2006 @ 9:48 pm PT…

Roger #398

I aloof apprehension the photos were absorbing – they acutely are adapted , but by whom is a able nother question!Just one added allotment of the mystery.

As for activity to the moon – I apperceive that we were there for a fact. That is how we placed mirrors there with which the USS Addition was communicating with the pentagon appliance articulate laser pulses.

No I don’t acquire my tin antithesis hat on with that one!

The Addition was the best developed advice abode in the angel and was in the Mediterranean spying on the Arabs and Israelis arch up to and during their 6 day war.

It was deliberatly attacked by the Isrealis alike acceptance it was Articular as an American ship.

Our government anesthetized it off as an accident.

My academy dorm-mate was one of four radio operators on appointment at the time. They were in advice with the Isreali pilots aback the advanced occured. He was the abandoned one in the radio allowance to survive aback a abate exploded anon beneath the room. His aback faced the abandoned aperture and he was befuddled into the aisle – the others weren’t so lucky. I can still bethink him animate in the boilerplate of the night covered in diaphoresis screaming!

They are abandoned afresh accepting to the basal of the cover-up.

COMMENT #401 [Permalink]… Jack Frost said on 5/19/2006 @ 1:10 am PT…

Roger (#399) –

‘The capital accomplishment is still in avant-garde of us, how to get rid of this adversity of an administration.’

Well, that’s absolutely the point of debunking 9/11.

Everything this rotten aggregation has done has been predicated on 9/11:

The U.S.A.P.A.T.R.I.O.T. ActThe War On TerrorTMAfghanistanIraqDetaining suspects indefinitely afterwards aisle or acknowledged councilTorture of prisonersIranSpying on our buzz callsTax Cuts

Debunking 9/11 pulls the rug out from beneath these thugs and ends these misadventures and we can stop killing people.

The Official StoryTM is rapidly falling afar and accomplish are achievement taken to bank it up. United 93 as a affection film, this ‘new’ Pentagon video, the alienation to stop the abolition of a admission that survived the collapse and adored several people’s lives (makes me admiration what affectionate of argumentative affirmation adeptness be acquired from that staircase). Hell, they couldn’t alike get the afterlife amends for Moussaoui, whom they ashen their time with aback they should acquire been aggravating Khalid Sheikh Mohammad, their notorius 9/11 artifice ‘mastermind’ KSM from the abridged and abundantly innaccurate 9/11 Bureau report. Some alike agnosticism KSM’s existence.

I anticipate it’s aerial time to stop giving the annual of the agnosticism to bodies who acquire acutely not adequate it.

COMMENT #402 [Permalink]… Roger said on 5/19/2006 @ 5:26 am PT…

I’m not giving anyone in the Backcountry Administering the annual of the doubt. I’m artlessly adage with all the achievement that’s out there, allege still haven’t been brought adjoin this administering and never will be based on this. All this absorption on whether a 757 hit the Pentagon or not won’t be authentic with a down-covered video and no one that isn’t assertive already will get assertive based on this. Hell, my brother is absolutely into UFOs and HE doesn’t acquire it!The drive is with us in the sentiments of the people, they acquire absent the assurance of the bodies by and abounding and that’s what needs to be concentrated on. But afterwards a abounding scale, accessible assay of 9/11, proving the accession is absurd and in achievement could do added abuse than good. It could accompany bottomward our government in one behemothic bang and chaos would ensue. Is that what you want? Conceivably that’s what needs to arise but I don’t anticipate so, at diminutive I accomplishment not. I aloof appetite some affinity of candor aback in the system, if that’s at all possible.BlueBear. Sorry. I knew you were smarter than that.

COMMENT #403 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 5/19/2006 @ 6:38 am PT…

Jack Frost lists the sins that acquire been predicated on 9/11. The key chat is “predicated.”

Unless Richard Clarke and Paul O’Neill both aria (neither is a accepted cheat nor had a motive to lie), we apperceive Backcountry planned to admission Iraq afore 9/11, for one or added of the afterwards reasons: WMD, Saddam’s plan to assassinate Bush, Sr., a Muslim caliphate, bargain oil, actualize a archetypal democracy, yada yada yada).

Whatever the complete acumen was that Backcountry capital to admission Iraq, it wasn’t terrorism, because there were few if any terrorists in Iraq afore we invaded.So the complete adventitious of 9/11 is Bush’s credibility. It adeptness be that the official adaptation is correct, but it’s hardly amiss to catechism it, because by declining to catechism Bush’s accuracy in the able we’ve enabled a unilateral aggression of a complete country, ache of detainees, aggressive actionable spying of American citizens, and a bankrupted civic treasury.

If Democrats and the media hadn’t been so abashed of calling Backcountry a liar, we adeptness acquire abhorred all of it. The bulk of affability has never been so high.

COMMENT #404 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/19/2006 @ 7:18 am PT…

Hey, look, guys: I am affluence kooky, but I’m no idiot. The official adaptation is a big blubbery book abounding of lies. Alike unedickated dolts apperceive physics and trigonometry, all kinds of avant-garde science and math, aloof from accustomed out their lives. They comedy basin and video games. They acquire copse stoves that never melt, incinerators that don’t cook the metal achievement that went in. They’ve aboveboard things topple over, drop, get smacked to commonwealth come, complete off the fence post. They apperceive how adamantine animate is, how big the buidlings were, and adhesive has been allotment of their accustomed acquaintance their able lives.

If they THINK about it, already accustomed the FACTS, aboveboard the pictures, they will see that not one of the abomination scenes fits the official version. Don’t accord me this achievement about the official version. We ALL apperceive abundant to acquaint THAT’s not true, and it IS the abject aloft which this administering has done our country continuing and alike added baleful harm. Busting them on this is about accepting them out of appointment and abaft bars, as abundant as apperception on what they do now.

GIVE ME A WAY TO PREVENT THEM FROM NUKING IRAN!!!!!!!!!

COMMENT #405 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/19/2006 @ 8:02 am PT…

Roger #404

No botheration partner! No insult taken.

COMMENT #406 [Permalink]… Dredd said on 5/19/2006 @ 8:13 am PT…

Sometimes a abrogating makes the complete clear.

I am still addled afterwards demography a attending at this fractional simulation that shows what it really, absolutely would attending like if Flight 77 hit breadth the official adaptation says it hit.

Pardon me if this has already been acquaint here.

COMMENT #407 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/19/2006 @ 8:31 am PT…

Dredd: There would additionally be skidmarks on the lawn, which there wasn’t. This is an able simulation. How could a jet that big, fly a basal off the ground, for that long???

COMMENT #408 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/19/2006 @ 8:32 am PT…

Holy crap! The aftermost time I was here, it was about 200 comments!

COMMENT #409 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/19/2006 @ 8:41 am PT…

TexasLady #383: You’re welcome!

COMMENT #410 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/19/2006 @ 8:59 am PT…

I anticipate I apperceive Jeff’s problem.

Jeff, this is an “airplane”….

Maybe Jeff doesn’t apperceive what an “airplane” is…

Jeff, did you see an “airplane” like this, in the pentagon video?

COMMENT #411 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/19/2006 @ 10:11 am PT…

COMMENT #412 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/19/2006 @ 10:23 am PT…

Yep, Big Dan, the complete best this does to deflate the missile admission is to add what adeptness be a appendage fin from a (small) jet, with all the fuzziness and distortion, and breach that these, too, may acquire been adapted or tampered with. And, boy, I’ve approved this every which way, with my academician avant-garde accessible to any possibility, and none of it scans out to “solid” from these videos. The ONLY admission that 100% does not ablution is the 757 theory.

I’m off for two weeks, abode sitting with a broken OLD punch up PC. This is activity to assay my Zen to the max.

xoxoxoxox everyone.

COMMENT #413 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/19/2006 @ 12:42 pm PT…

“Sometimes a abrogating makes the complete clear.I am still addled afterwards demography a attending at this fractional simulation that shows what it really, absolutely would attending like if Flight 77 hit breadth the official adaptation says it hit. Pardon me if this has already been acquaint here.”

Prison Planet? Alex Jones? LMFAO!!

Put bottomward the bong, abolish the tin antithesis helmet, and accompany the complete world…

COMMENT #414 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/19/2006 @ 12:45 pm PT…

Agent99

Hopefuly you don’t owe accession a new computer due to the dredded foot-thru-screen syndrome!

Until you return:

COMMENT #415 [Permalink]… John Doe said on 5/19/2006 @ 12:59 pm PT…

*** There ARE aloof SOME problems with this VIDEO.

1. Question? Breadth is the American Airlines airplane? It abiding is not in that video.2. The abandoned complete affirmation from this video is that there is an babyish explosionnot affiliated with an bartering airline explosion.3. an American Airlines bartering aeroplane would leave a huge WIDE & BIG aperture in the coffer of the pentagon because of its affiliated wings.Why does the pentagon coffer abandoned acquire a complete babyish aperture and a complete babyish admission as if were hit by a unmanned air abettor or missile.4. On the arena eye witnessed said they saw a babyish “unmanned air vehicle” aerial complete low on its way to the pentagon.They also, declared that they never an American Airlines bartering aeroplane aerial low on its way to the pentagon. Infact, Jet engines would accomplish publicunbearable at low altitudes. 100’s of accoutrements of bodies would acquire aboveboard and heard a jet alike at low altitude. Bodies who animate abreast airports apperceive what I beggarly aback your abode shakesand your aerial boom aback planes canyon over your house.5. Accession has edited this video and asleep assertive video frames and entered new frames. I can acquaint this is the case because of the alteration frames of light. It’s so obvious.To added actualize my claim, it is accessible that whoever edited this video was acutely aggravating to adumbrate what absolutely hit the pentagon.6. Are we all idiots or aloof built-in dumb??? Breadth if the F*** PLANE in the aftermath??When planes bang they leave huge bags of draft like, luggage, metals. accession frames, animal bodies,plastics, A BLACK BOX, and abundant abundant more..7. FACT: Dog sniffing hounds and badge searched the complete pentagon and they activate not one allotment of draft or animal anatomy charcoal or baggage or A atramentous box.8. FACT: THE CIA/FBI did acquisition some babyish pieces of aluminum foils from an UAV and they boxed it up in a bustle and agitated it away. Eye attestant video is all over the internet.10. FACT: FEMA HELICOPTERS WAS SEEN (live on video) battlefront missiles into the accompanying architectonics on 9/11. What the F*** IS GOING ON ??????

My Conclusion,The US government has aloof told on themselves that they orchestrated and agitated out 9/11.IMPEACH AND ARREST THESE LYING BASTARDS (The able backcountry cabal) !!!!!!!!!!They did 9/11 to get war abutment to ascendancy boilerplate east oil, appropriately advancing Afghanistam, Iraq, and abutting they will admission iran!Tjeiranian admiral adn russian admiral acquire already abandoned hints as to whom is repsonsible for 9/11 and draft katrina and abounding added state-sponsored terroist events.

Lieberman: White Abode adverse Katrina probe

Tuesday, January 24, 2006; Posted: 7:20 p.m. EST (00:20 GMT)WASHINGTON (CNN) — The White Abode is abstention questions about Draft Katrina acknowledgment and hasinstructed added agencies to accompany it in fending off investigators, Sen. Joseph Lieberman said on Tuesday.The White Abode denies the allegations.

Lieberman went so far as to advanced that the Department of Citizenry Aegis is aggravating to annihilate the investigation.

“My agents believes that DHS has affianced in a acquainted activity of slow-walking ourinvestigation in the accomplishment that we would run out of time to chase the investigation’snatural progression to breadth it leads,” Lieberman said. “At this point, I cannot disagree.”

online affirmation videos and websites:

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/www.911inplanesite.comhttp://www.timboucher.co…4/the-man-made-hurricanewww.911truth.orgwww.infowars.com

Iranian President’s Letter Highlights 9/11 Axial JobAhmadinejad answers ‘warning to the world’ challengehttp://www.infowars.com/…ights_911_inside_job.htm

The Activity for the New American Century.http://www.informationcl…use.info/article1665.htm

news you wwon’t see on cnn. abc, nbc, or fox newshttp://www.informationcl…inghouse.info/index.html

http://911.freelancepartnership.comHow 911 Was Agitated Out – 4.4 mbhttp://911.freelancepart…ut_40-24–43-08.wmvhttp://conspiracycentral.net:6969/****http://www.informationcl…inghouse.info/index.htmlhttp://www.911eyewitness.com”http://www.informationcl…se.info/article12018.htm

MOTIVE:The September 11, 2001 attacks was planned or accustomed by the Backcountry administration,to committed oil activity routes through Afghanistan in alertness for Peak Oil.

Oil affairs and the Boilerplate EastThe Bushes abutment the oil industry to enhance their own banking interests in the industry.

http://www.museletter.com/http://www.oilempire.us/Loose Change puts alternating the altercation that the 911 attacks were orcastrated by the US aggressive government. Frankly, the affirmation is best advancing and leaves you with an after-effects of feelings. -Some bodies say- these alligations are so austere that they should be debated in the Abode of Commons during prime ministers catechism time and -others say- abode to your bounded MP and ask them if they bend acquire to acquire with Blair. Do you?http://www.loosechange.org/911http://www.loosechange911.com

The Chaos Will Not Be TelevisedThere acquire been abounding allegations fabricated adjoin the US Government afterwards 911. However, never afore acquire I aboveboard such a abridged addition of evidence. The footage complete in this new documentary makes it starkingly accessible that the 911 contest WERE orchestrated as a forerunner to the advancing war OF terror. If you acquire any doubts whatsoever about what absolutely happened this doc will anguish you immensely.http://www.question911.com/links.php

— A VAST AMOUNT OF DATA SAYS THATTHOSE WHO CONTROL THE GOVERNMENT OFAMERICA ORGANISED THE ‘9-11’ ATTACK —http://www.world-action.co.uk/index4.html

THE ILLEGAL & FRAUDULENT’WAR ON TERROR”THIS WAR ON TERRORISMIS BOGUS’THE GUARDIAN NEWSPAPER — SEPT 6th, 2003.BY MICHAEL MEACHER, ENVIRONMENTMINISTER MAY 1997 – JUNE 2003.

www.stewwebb.com/9-11WTCBushCheneyTreason.htmlhttp://www.global-elite.org

The Air-conditioned 9-11 EvidenceWe’ve All been Overlookingby Leonard Spencerhttp://www.serendipity.li/wot/aa11.htm

Proof Explosives Were Acclimated At WTChttp://www.reopen911.org/

http://letsroll911.org/Vote SubmittedYour vote was submitted sucessfully!Poll Results: Do you acquire that the U.S. Government was complicit in 911, and Accusable of the Abomination of 911? Vote now!Yes, I acquire no Agnosticism in my Mind, the U.S. is Accusable 47.9 % (26668)Yes, I anticipate there is Aerial Probability that “elements of the US goverment” committed 9/11… 26.8 % (14933)No, 911 was agitated out by Usama and his 19 Cavern Dwelling Templar Terrorists 12.1 % (6748)No. but I do acquire the Backcountry Administering let it arise on purpose 6.6 % (3694)I am new to this, and not sure, but it abiding doesn’t attending adequate for America 6.6 % (3651)

Iranian President’s Letter Highlights 9/11 Axial JobBush Aria About Iraq, Has No Adapted to Advanced IranDead because of a lie. Comatose because egocentric bodies in government capital a war and aria to get one, aided by egocentric bodies in the media WHO TOOK MONEY FROM GEORGE BUSH TO LIE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. The government and the media traded the claret of these adolescent Americans for their claimed gain. Attending at their faces. How can you not be angry?http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/9/11 and Anthrax: Framing ArabsAt Diminutive 7 of the Hijackers are Still Alive

The latest report: Physics Assistant Belletrist WTC Destroyed by Controlled DemolitionNovember 11, 2005No Jet Alike Hit The Pentagon

Physics911http://www.physics911.net

http://www.americanfreep…ges_brought_down_wt.htmlEvidence of Thermite Uncovered at Angel Trade Center

9-11 The Bogie Annual from Hellhttp://www.tyrannyalert.com/800.html

Special Notice:International 9-11 accurateness appointment in ChicagoJune 2, 3 ,4 2006http://www.911revealingthetruth.org/

“Those that would accord up capital addition in afterward of a little acting aegis deserve neither…”– Benjamin Franklin —

“All absolutism needs to accretion a ballast is for bodies of adequate censor to acquire silent”– Thomas Jefferson —

“Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a alarming assistant and a aflutter master.”– George Washington —

Congratulations America!(you got what you deserve)http://www.thefairandbal….com/congratulations.htm

http://www.evilgopbastards.comExposing the animal truthabout the Republican Party

Col. George Nelson, USAF (ret.) an able in the acreage of aircraft identification for 30 years, and “Bob” an electro-physicist with a masters bulk in eyes and a 33 year adept animate for the Department of Aegis in the missile aegis program, both altercate the “pod”, the “flash”, the pentagon draft and authentic their opinions as to whether planes that hit the WTC were alike bartering aircraft!http://www.thepowerhour….ws2/replay_aug8_2005.htm

COMMENT #416 [Permalink]… Anatomy Rebel said on 5/19/2006 @ 2:47 pm PT…

Comment #415

Did somebody fart?

COMMENT #417 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/19/2006 @ 3:40 pm PT…

Greetings everyone:

Parallel Universes and Anatomy Shifting

In adjustment to anticipate what are alongside universes, you acquire to be alien to new scales and concepts. The Cosmos is basically 5 dimensions, and is alien except to a baddest few of mankind! You are accustomed with the aboriginal three arbor of accustomed space, x, y, and z. The fourth is time. We acquire to bureaucracy a authentic three-dimensional box, with authentic distances, to explain the fifth dimension. The time progression, avant-garde or about-face of bulk and activity aural the box is the fourth dimension. The fifth ambit involves vibrational frequency. This abundance is cool imposed on bulk and activity at the sub diminutive level. This would be declared its beating frequency. The fifth ambit has abounding adapted levels. In these complete levels, bulk and activity exists in a accustomed state. What beef does not apperceive is that bulk and energy, and that which is the aspect of life, exists at adapted vibrational frequencies. Anniversary vibrational affiliated is complete from anniversary other, but blot the aforementioned space. Atoms of adapted frequencies do not mix; they artlessly accelerate able anniversary other. To get a clearer picture, lets put allotment of the Cosmos in a bound 3 dimensional box, and axle what you would see, and what laws would apply. We would alpha at the abject vibrational abundance for bulk and energy. This would be our Cosmos and laws, represented by the name anatomy affiliated 3. Now a new blueprint and abstraction has to be alien to advice you understand. Anatomy Affiliated = [Time (measured in progression)] * [speed of Ablaze (C)]. Beef is accustomed with the anatomy affiliated by accession name, the cosmological constant. For all levels in the fifth dimension, the anatomy affiliated is the same, but T and C alter in proportion. Meanwhile to an eyewitness in any bedfast affiliated in the fifth dimension, ablaze will biking its new bulk of acceleration per accepted assemblage of time. Already alfresco the levels, variations activity in affiliation to anniversary other. The progression of time is cellophane to you, because you acquire no ballast believability or comparisons. Now, lets admission the vibrational abundance administering some of the accession and activity until it absolutely transposes up to the abutting affiliated of existence, anatomy affiliated 4. For an example, let calefaction according the vibrational abundance of the diminutive structure, and baptize molecules at 20 degrees F. according accession and energy. Admission the heat, and some of the baptize molecules move from a solid to a aqueous at a authentic point, about 32 degrees F. The baptize molecules are still the same, but in a adapted form. The academy activity levels abide of lower accession anatomy levels, and new laws of motion. Ice and aqueous baptize can be in the aforementioned area, but the molecules do not mix. They accelerate able anniversary other, creating an ambiance complete from anniversary other. Additionally vibrational ante aloof like temperature can alter and still breach at a bedfast anatomy level. Now the bulk and activity in the box at anatomy affiliated 3 is still there, but you can�t see or collaborate with bulk and activity at anatomy affiliated 4. At anatomy affiliated 4 a new Cosmos appears, beneath abutting in the cardinal of stars, and in the anatomy of bulk itself. What abroad has changed? Some stars will be in the aforementioned positions, but the blush may be different. There are stars in new locations, but absolutely are few missing. In fourth density, the anatomy of the Cosmos is beneath in allegory to third, our level. Beef apprehension that ablaze is a constant, but in fourth anatomy ablaze has a acceleration about 17 times faster than in third density. Time is progressively slower in fourth anatomy than in third, but to an article in third anatomy it seems the same. Aback the abundance is abashed anatomy affiliated 5 the acceleration of ablaze is boxlike from the acceleration in affiliated 4. Time slows bottomward in proportion. Aback ablaze leaves a brilliant in the Zeta Reticuli system, which is 38 ablaze years away. It takes about 1.6 months for ablaze to admission at Apple in fifth density. All abutting levels repeat. What controls this? There is a subatomic particle, which is not accepted to best of mankind. This subatomic atom controls the beating abundance of the diminutive structure, breadth bulk and activity exists. The added the subatomic atom increases in admeasurement to the afflicted mass, the resultant abundance becomes higher. Academy ambit are created at assertive abundance breach points. Anniversary affiliated is a Quantum bound for differentials in time and the acceleration of light. You are now absorption to yourself, what does all this mean? Some abeyant applications are, traveling faster than the acceleration of light, authoritative it accessible to acquire anaplasty afterwards breaking the skin, and the adeptness to carriage bulk to adapted locations instantly. The adeptness to canyon through solid bulk in 3rd anatomy aback in a alteration actualization move to or from 4th density, and the adeptness to dispense the breeze of time are some of the allowances for anatomy shifting.

To apperceive an abstruse abstraction of time differentials that is amid the densities, let time in the fourth anatomy be represented by a sine beachcomber commutual one aeon with a amicableness of according to the ambit A. The amplitude of the sine beachcomber will according to a cardinal represented by B, and the amplitude additionally corresponds to the vibrational bulk of bulk and activity in the fourth density. Both A and B are constants. Now I will assay a fourth anatomy time sine beachcomber anatomy to a third anatomy sine beachcomber and axle the differences. In the third density, the time sine beachcomber now completes 17 cycles in the aforementioned amplitude complete by ambit A. The amplitude of the waveform is .0588B or 1/17 its aboriginal height, and corresponds to a lower vibrational bulk of bulk and activity in the third anatomy (Earth Plane). If you were to breach both sine after-effects into a beeline line, one aeon in fourth anatomy and seventeen cycles in third anatomy both would be equal. To the entities that animate in anniversary density, one aeon of the sine beachcomber would according one assemblage of perceived time. Accordingly one day in fourth anatomy is like seventeen canicule in third.

COMMENT #418 [Permalink]… Roger said on 5/19/2006 @ 3:43 pm PT…

I see that you acquire no clue what Noam Chomsky is about, eh Jeff? Is that Mutt and Jeff? (You’re allegedly too adolescent to bethink them.) That’s what I acquire your position stems from. Benightedness and a alertness to acquire what Faux Annual tells you to believe. My oldest brother is like that. He’d been balustrade adjoin the New York Times and how avant-garde they are with their bent and I asked him, “when was the aftermost time you apprehend the New York Times?” He’s NEVER apprehend the New York Times yet feels able to accompaniment an appraisal about it. That’s you Jeff. That’s why you shall be abandoned in the future. I don’t appetite to abstain you but you acquire annihilation to add to the conversation, unfortunately. You acquire NO believability to accompaniment opinions about bodies with the accreditation of Chomsky. Conceivably you should go aback to academy on that admirable GI bill they gave you for abutting the annual and apprentice commodity afore you arise back. I advanced a advanced in analytic cerebration or aesthetics and afresh angel history. It aloof adeptness accord you an abstraction of how governments lie to their citizens on a abundantly approved basis.

COMMENT #419 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/19/2006 @ 3:49 pm PT…

COMMENT #420 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/19/2006 @ 3:53 pm PT…

I ambition added of you had websites, we allegation added of them, all of us allegation to set up a site, no bulk what our adeptness is, the added we animate into the Collective, the added a analytic accession point will be accomplished in a beneath time, which bureau the faster we can evolve, and get out of our caves, if you will. Peace!

COMMENT #421 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/19/2006 @ 3:55 pm PT…

Oh, and I would; as Im abiding others would, adulation to apprehend added of your ethics and thoughts.

COMMENT #422 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/19/2006 @ 4:03 pm PT…

COMMENT #423 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/19/2006 @ 4:06 pm PT…

COMMENT #424 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/19/2006 @ 4:12 pm PT…

Yes, and if anyone wants to apperceive Noam Chomskys background, it can be activate herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky.

COMMENT #425 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/19/2006 @ 4:14 pm PT…

COMMENT #426 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/19/2006 @ 4:46 pm PT…

COMMENT #427 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/19/2006 @ 5:30 pm PT…

COMMENT #428 [Permalink]… Accurateness Appellant said on 5/19/2006 @ 8:56 pm PT…

#1-428,

I was out of boondocks all week. Acknowledge you for ruining my Friday evening.

I acquire no abstraction what absolutely happened on 9/11, but two items acquire agitated me.

1. Why was GWB in a academy allowance in Florida? It aloof makes me anticipate that accession knew he would be photographed at that time. And his acknowledgment to Card’s buzz is the banana move of a bad actor. It looks like a poorly-planned photo op.

2. How did the admiral apperceive afresh the names of the 19 and acquire complete photos of each?And the Atta passport? Was Mark Fuhrman in town?

RLM,

I accede with your JFK comments and I apprehend one of your books on the plane.

COMMENT #429 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/19/2006 @ 9:05 pm PT…

They knew the names and had photos, because they all formed for the CIA, and breadth on what they apprehension to be a ‘training mission’, this is axiomatic by the achievement that best of the names acclimated were not the complete people, as we acquire aboveboard with the complete bodies in added countries advancing avant-garde with the achievement that they are still animate and able-bodied in there countries of residence.

COMMENT #430 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/19/2006 @ 9:13 pm PT…

COMMENT #431 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/19/2006 @ 9:17 pm PT…

CIA let them go Now, if any government bureau has the adeptness to find, and arrest accession whom they should be after, afresh these bodies either appointment for the agency, or are afterwards the plan of the agency, period.

COMMENT #432 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/19/2006 @ 9:20 pm PT…

Really for these bodies to alike get into the country, plan there attack, put the missles on the planes, etc, they would acquire to acquire been accustomed to, or drudge Echelon; the encyption keys are afflicted every day, and it does not acquire adequate that they would be able to drudge Echelon, not from a cave, breadth is breadth to government said there awning was, arise on, its a joke, all that is activity on now is a joke, and there all bedlam at us, all of them.

COMMENT #433 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/19/2006 @ 9:21 pm PT…

COMMENT #434 [Permalink]… Adjudicator of Lath said on 5/19/2006 @ 11:31 pm PT…

I aloof saw Afar Change 2nd E. .. .. WOW . . .

COMMENT #435 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/20/2006 @ 1:01 am PT…

Way to go Anatomy Rebel, now thats what is needed. There like hot cakes arent they, abreast from my webpages I acquire started this as well, and added videos from the Alex Jones. But for a simple, yet able-bodied researched, abbreviate presentation, yeah Afar change never fails, as you watch the doubter afresh change his apperception with REASON alone. Abundant Idea.(and that reminds me, I allegation to broil some added for this weekend in Austin Texas, Im activity bottomward the annoyance abreast campus to duke them out, yes, academy campuses are abundant too Anatomy Rebel, malls, walmart parking lots, parks, fast food(the bodies working) anywhere man!!!! It makes my affection ache to achievement this from you, that abounding like yourself are absolutely ‘DOING’ commodity about it, instead of aloof sitting abaft the keyboard and abashed there head, yep, yep, yep, afresh ZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZZ. We allegation to alpha acclimation though. I know, I know, that is the scariest one of all, because afresh we will be ambition out there in the open. But anticipate about it, say we get the accepted administation out of office, and we apple-pie up the Abode and Senate, the Illuminati will still be there in the caliginosity my brother or sister, there adeptness will still be there. The abandoned way to get there ascendancy out of our country, is the PEOPLE advanced the adeptness through the states, the WAY IT SHOULD BE IN THE FIRST PLACE, for that is what the Founding Fathers batten of in the Architecture of this country. The white abode should never acquire had the adeptness they acquire had in the aftermost 100 years, period, period, period, it is all there in history, period, that is not the way the founding fathers drew up the constitution, PERIOD, and it does not booty a academic to fiqure that out, no, it takes abandoned a able-bodied abreast acute citizen, period. We all allegation to apprehend this, we all aloof sit aback and booty OTHER peoples words for it, aloof because they went to Harvard or MIT, no, we allegation to all attending into all things, for that is our albatross as citizens here, and of the world.

I dont anticipate that abounding bodies today absolutely acquire or see what is coming, the alarm that is acclimation to activity will never be acquainted from Hollywood, like absoluteness is acclimation to present us with. Abounding bodies anticipate bodies like this are crazy, but abandoned there words will be remembered afterwards it happens, history consistently tells us that the words of truth, and the words that bark the warning, are never heard by the mind, until ‘after the fact’.

But causeless to say Anatomy Rebel, apperceive this, that the Cosmos is demography note, and 1 achievement like yourself does not go unseen, no, your accomplishments allege added pages than abounding books, for it is the adapted affair to do, and you apperceive this.

What allotment of the country do you animate in, I would like to accrue in draft with you, and maybe anatomy commodity from this, we absolutely do allegation a foundation to allege from in this country, a base, a source, breadth ‘likeminded’ ones can absolutely accession together, acquire thinktanks, allocution soulutions, the absolutely austere bits you know, not aloof animate about regurgitating things like what is activity on online. I anticipate the admiral to be adulation the achievement that we are all online, for the added time abaft the keyboard, the beneath they acquire to anguish about any ‘ACTIONS’ in the REAL WORLD, you know, I anticipate they adulation it, I absolutely do. Any way my email is [email protected], say accost sometime. Peace!!!

COMMENT #436 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/20/2006 @ 1:05 am PT…

Other videos, abreast from Afar change, which is fabricated by Korey Rowe, Dylan Avery, and Jason Bermas. Alex Jones additionally has said to alpha ripping his vids as well, and that is a added idea.

COMMENT #437 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/20/2006 @ 1:08 am PT…

By the way Anatomy Rebel, adulation the stickers on the car, although if abaft you I adeptness acquire a bones from reading, lol, RIGHT ON!!!!

COMMENT #438 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/20/2006 @ 2:26 am PT…

Missing TrillionsRumsfeld Buries Accepting of Missing 2 Abundance Dollars in 9/10/01 Columnist Conference

On September 10, 2001, Secretary of Aegis Donald Rumsfeld captivated a columnist appointment to acknowledge that over $2,000,000,000,000 in Pentagon funds could not be accounted for. Rumsfeld stated: “According to some estimates we cannot clue $2.3 abundance in transactions.”

Such a acknowledgment commonly would acquire sparked a huge scandal. However, the admission of the advanced on New York City and Washington in the morning would assure that the adventitious remained buried. To the trillions already missing from the coffers, an acquiescent Congress abashed by anthrax attacks would add billions added in appropriations to activity the “War on Terror.”

The Comptroller of the Pentagon at the time of the advanced was Dov Zakheim, who was appointed in May of 2001. Afore adequate the Pentagon’s money-manager, he was an authoritative at Arrangement Planning Corporation, a aegis architect specializing in cyberbanking warfare technologies including remote-controlled aircraft systems. Zakheim is a affiliate of the Activity for a New American Aeon and alternate in the conception of its 2000 position cardboard Rebuilding America’s Defenses which declared for “a New Pearl Harbor.”

http://911research.wtc7….11/trillions.html…

Dov Zakheim blanket $2 TRILLION from you.

His aggregation (Sysplan) fabricated the technology (Flight Termination System) that was activated on 9/11 to adviser planes to their targets.

Flight 77 was adumbral (within aloof a few feet) on 9/11 enroute to the Pentagon by a Raytheon A-3 Skywarrior powered by a Thiokol motor and able with bombs.

When you see the new video of the Pentagon advanced – the white smoke is from the Thiokol motor of the A-3. NO 757 hit the Pentagon. Period.

AA flight 77 comatose abbreviate of the Pentagon in Virginia and was agilely bankrupt up. The A-3 affiliated the mission and THAT is what you see slamming into the Pentagon.

Nearly EVERYONE in the Pentagon and the White Abode and the Congress apperceive this to be true.

They all apperceive that 9/11 was an axial job.

All of them.

So does the media.

COMMENT #439 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/20/2006 @ 2:29 am PT…

THIS EXPLAINS IT.

The blazon of aircraft and engines acclimated to advanced the Pentagon.

This shows the Raytheon affiliation to 9/11.

THE ANSWER:

http://www.rense.com/general70/safe.htm…

It was this collaborative admission that led Jon and I to accomplish that no 757 hit the Pentagon so we looked for alternatives. The abandoned alike that fabricated adroitness was either a 737 or an A3 Skywarrior, both of which can use the aforementioned types of jet engines up to a point.

The accession bulk of best 737 jets abatement into the ambit of amid 93.0 ft and 112.6 ft which is still 19 all-overs to 38 all-overs of accession that cannot be accounted for in impacting the face of the Pentagon afore it mysteriously disappeared. Aback the absence of credible impacts and the admeasurement of a 737 including acme of the appendage are weighed, it is credible that a abate alike was acclimated to affect the advanced on the Pentagon.

I baffle anyone to acquisition an A3 Skywarrior in the calmly of any Arab agitator on 9-11 or any added day. There are abandoned three sources of those jets: 1.) a few (3 to 6) complete in USAF inventory; or 2.) Davis Monthan AFB breadth abounding jets are stored due to abridgement of humidity; or 3.) the agile of 12-15 already endemic by Hughes and now controlled by Raytheon afterwards that affiliation acquired Hughes.

Jon Carlson and I are assertive that the alike acclimated to advanced the Pentagon is an old USAF / Agile alike appointed as the A3 Skywarrior.

The wingspan of an A3 is 74 all-overs and in the Agile adaptation the wings were advised to bend up for accumulator on an aircraft carrier (visible on the cartoon above). At a distance, corrective like an American Airlines plane, this alike would calmly be mistaken for a 737, 757, 767 blazon of aircraft because the two engines adhere beneath the accession but are of far abate ambit than the 9 basal bore jets on a 757 that not abandoned adhere beneath the accession but additionally adhere lower than the basal of the fuselage.

That is an important point because there were no marks on the Pentagon backyard of those two jet engines arid the arena and they would acquire based on how low the Pentagon was hit. Said accession way, balloon about the accession arid on the ground. The engines of a 757 would acquire been agronomics the Pentagon backyard but that did not happen.

The wingspan of a 757 is 124 all-overs 10 inches. The amplitude of the all-embracing opening, alike what is arresting as accessible accession marks slamming into the face of the architectonics is afterpiece to 74 all-overs than it is 124 all-overs 10 inches. In short, there is 50 all-overs missing to actualize the Official Lie put out by Washington, DC as to what hit the Pentagon. Said accession way, there is 25 all-overs on anniversary ancillary of the centerline of the bang point (that 14-16 basal aperture larboard in the ancillary of the Pentagon) that larboard no affirmation of a added accession bulk 757 hitting the building.

They additionally cannot (or added appropriately will not) explain what happened to the two 9 basal bore engines that mysteriously disappeared. Some official government sources affirmation that the blaze was so hot it broiled the engines to nothing, yet they affirmation they activate DNA of the passengers. That algebraic does not compute, or the science either.

I bethink the aboriginal chat I had with Karen Kwiatkowski, a retired Lieutenant Colonel who was in the Pentagon that day. She is the developed that went accessible about the Appointment of Adapted Affairs breadth they were falsifying the intelligence apropos Iraq. She vividly remembers achievement bench and about the bend in about 10 annual to advice get bodies out and the FBI agents were at the CITGO abject confiscating the video tapes of what hit the Pentagon.

Other eyewitnesses acquire declared that they smelled explosives such as cordite, not afire jet fuel. Those were aggressive assemblage that apperceive that exploded ammunition smells like.

What little video affirmation there is does actualization a white aisle of smoke afore the Pentagon explosion. Jet ammunition burns aphotic at sea affiliated and jets do not leave white contrails at sea level. What does leave a white aisle of smoke at all elevations is the solid ammunition of a rocket, Thiokol in best rockets achievement the blazon of solid fuel.

COMMENT #440 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/20/2006 @ 2:31 am PT…

According to the US Government’s own website which is accurately advised to deflate accession theories:

http://usinfo.state.gov/…un/28-581634.html…

With absorption to the Angel Trade Centermost attacks, Mr. Meyssan ignores or dismisses the facts that:

“THE GOVERNMENT DECLARES):

“Boeing bartering aircraft can not be accidentally controlled”

This affirmation is false.

Dov Zakheim was the Pentagon’s comptroller and CFO during 9/11. Over $3 abundance is unaccounted for during his tenure. He was (is?) Accumulated VP at Arrangement Planning Corporation, a aloft amateur in the “Homeland Security” industry. One of the articles that SysPlan sells is the Command Transmitter System, a alien ascendancy arrangement for planes, boats, missiles and added vehicles2 . It’s abominable customable and configurable to interface with an about bottomless cardinal of abettor types.

The CTS is a tunable UHF FM transmitter advised for arena use in authoritative guided missiles, pilotless aircraft and pilotless boats.

Many ascent and lending tests were performed appliance this arrangement on a bartering admeasurement Boeing aircraft beneath the administering of Raytheon in the canicule above-mentioned to 9/11.

If the pilot is not in complete ascendancy and accession apparatus is authoritative (not aloof accepting acquiescent signals or sensing) the craft, abnormally from GPS, it is finer ‘remotely’ controlled. The articulation amid arena crews, GPS and aircraft acquire been established. It’s not a cruise ascendancy and it’s not a radio controlled toy car. We’re talking FULL avionics AND aeronautics from abandonment to draft bottomward controlled and guided by a accepted and authentic accessory link. “A absolutely chip flight administering computer arrangement (FMCS) provides for automatic advice and ascendancy of the 757-200 from afresh afterwards ascent to final admission and landing. Bond calm calendar processors authoritative navigation, advice and abettor thrust, the flight administering arrangement assures that the aircraft flies the best able avenue and flight contour for bargain ammunition consumption, flight time and aggregation workload. The absorption of all-around accession accessory (GPS) arrangement navigation, automatic air cartage ascendancy functions, and avant-garde advice and communications actualization are now accessible as allotment of the new Abutting Air Aeronautics Arrangement (FANS) flight administering computer.” This technology could finer PREVENT the addendum of aircraft. Any aberration from the advanced would activate the arrangement and accession would apperceive about it. We’re animate to verify if American Airlines does acquire this technology installed in any of its fleet. Acquire they do acquire this technology installed… Why not key in a alike or cipher to acquire a hijacked aircraft automatically acreage at a predesignated, appropriately able aerodrome able for such eventualities. I can abandoned acquire that our “planners” do absolutely anticipate in acceding of adverse contingencies and acquire this book formed out. This all begs the questions: why wasn’t this analytic technology used, or was it abused?

http://www.humanundergro…ember/pent-feasible.html

COMMENT #441 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/20/2006 @ 2:34 am PT…

http://www.rinf.com/colu…onnection-to-9-11…

Americans (too many) do not apperceive that Raytheon admiral were comatose on 9-11, or at diminutive anguish up assuredly missing, which may be a added authentic way of adage it. It is who anguish up missing that is best interesting.

This is an extract of the email we accustomed and is advice that we knew as of the arising of the flight manifests for all four of the planes allegedly circuitous in 9-11:

Subject: Raytheon and 9/11

OK, I’m not gonna say annihilation here, except to let you apprehend the affirmation and afresh you can acquaint me what you think. (These are bodies who allegedly died on 9/11.) Mike

Raytheon and 9/11

2001-09-11 Stanley Hall Raytheon Administrator of Cyberbanking warfare diplomacy management. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, breadth Backcountry claimed Flight 77 hit it. Abolished on American airlines Flight 77, the one that allegedly hit the Pentagon but did not.

2001-09-11 Peter Gay Raytheon VP of Cyberbanking Systems on adapted appointment at the El Segundo, CA assay appointment breadth the All-around Militarist UAV alien ascendancy arrangement is made. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, breadth Backcountry claimed Flight 77 hit it. Abolished on American airlines Flight 11, the one that allegedly hit the Arctic Angel Trade Belfry I.

2001-09-11 Kenneth Waldie Raytheon Arch Affection Ascendancy for Cyberbanking Systems. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, breadth Backcountry claimed Flight 77 hit it. Abolished on American airlines Flight 11, the one that allegedly hit the Arctic Angel Trade Belfry I.

2001-09-11 David Kovalcin Raytheon Arch Automatic Architect for Cyberbanking Systems. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, breadth Backcountry claimed Flight 77 hit it. Abolished on American airlines Flight 11, the one that allegedly hit the Arctic Angel Trade Belfry I.

2001-09-11 Herbert Homer Raytheon Accumulated Authoritative animate with the Department of Defense. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, breadth Backcountry claimed Flight 77 hit it. Abolished on United airlines Flight 175, the one that allegedly hit the South Angel Trade Belfry II.

These are not abandoned the blazon of bodies but they are the bodies that would be assigned to UAV blazon projects involving Admission 4 and Admission 5 upgrades. Why would they be in Boston and those planes advancing from that administering and from arctic of Manhattan Island?

That 16 basal adit through three rings of the Pentagon is abandoned fabricated by a directional bang weapon. Rumsfeld has alike slipped up and mentioned the missile that hit the Pentagon.

Some acquire aboveboard the Pentagon parking lot camera video and the white aisle of smoke. Jets do now leave white trails of smoke at sea level, but Thiokol powered AGMs do, at all attitudes.

A Complete 9-11 Bureau should acquire assertive Hughes and Raytheon parties summoned for questioning.

Seated abaft Mohammad Atta on 9/11 was an Israeli Mossad agent, Daniel Lewin.

WHAT ARE THE ODDS?

STOP.

THINK.

Atta was sitting in bench 8D. In avant-garde of him were the two brothers, Wael and Walid Al-Shihri. Abaft him was his associate in his final days, ‘Abd Al-‘Aziz Al-‘Omari. To Al-‘Omari’s larboard was the Israeli Mossad agent, Daniel Lewin, and adapted abaft him, the man who would annihilate him, Sattam Al-Suqami.

In those exact moments, a accession of Mossad agents were cat-and-mouse in Manhattan for the aboriginal plane. They had surveillance and filming accessories with them. Meanwhile, F-15 planes were on aerial active in Otis air base, 150 afar away, not animate in which administering to fly.

It is noteworthy that in those moments, the Mossad agents here, according to eye-witnesses, were dancing and auspicious in avant-garde of the WTC. The Israelis were arrested in New York. Later, they were abashed to Washington, and from there to Israel, and the abode was bound suppressed.

5 EMPLOYEES OF RAYTHEON WITH EXPERTISE IN UNMANNED AERIAL VEHICLE SYSTEMS DIED ON THREE SEPARATE FLIGHTS ON 9/11

http://www.rinf.com/colu…onnection-to-9-11…

WHAT ARE THE ODDS?

STOP.

THINK.

Raytheon is missing at diminutive one if not two A-3 Skywarriors from its inventory.

Ask them breadth they went.

http://www.q-and-a.org/T…t/?ProgramID=1069…

C-SPAN Interview April 2, 2006Lt. Col. Karen KwiatkowskiU.S. Air Force, 1983-2003

KEY QUOTE:

LAMB: You wrote one of the things that we don’t about apprehend from inside, that Bill Luti referred to the Arch of Axial Command, Anthony Zinni, as a traitor.

KWIATKOSKI: Aloft Arch of Axial Command Anthony Zinni, Tommy Frank’s predecessor. Yes, he did, and adapted in avant-garde of the refrigerator that sat two all-overs from my desk.

There was a huge contempt, and Bill Luti is not the abandoned one. But, amid the neo-conservatives in and out of the Pentagon and, of course, you can apprehend their writings alike at the time, a huge adroitness of aggregate derision, aggregate antipathy for bodies that were like Anthony Zinni, bodies that were saying, “We allegation to sit bottomward and anticipate about what we’re saying. We allegation to see how this fits in with America’s civic aegis interests. We allegation to be abiding that what we’re adage about Iraq’s capability, Iraq’s affiliation to terrorism, and anybody else’s adequacy in affiliation to terrorism, we allegation to be abiding that what we say is arrested out.”

Why was aloft CIA Administrator Porter Goss and Sen. Graham accepting breakfast with the Pakistani ISI Spychief, the money man who active Mohammed Atta $100,000 on the morning of 9/11????

Figure that one out and you acquisition out who absolutely did 9/11, and not the patsies the government marches out for accessible consumption.

By: rebelpatriot on May 05, 2006 at 11:46pm

The bigger accession in the angel can be brought to its knees by the bigger supercomputer anytime conceived, powered by unending, adamant animal assurance to get to the truth.

That supercomputer is declared the Internet, POWERED BY PATRIOTS, and the accoutrements of dots that accomplish up the BIG LIE are all achievement connected.

The accurateness WILL PREVAIL.

What allotment will you play?

Don’t be bent criticizing the cybersluths aback the abomination is solved.

Pick a dot, and affix it to another. Afresh aces another, and affix it to the aboriginal two.

And so on, and so on, and so on.

The adeptness is in your hands.

The abandoned affair added abandoned the Accession Admission to explain all that has abundant aback 9/11 is Accompaniment Theory.

What are the allowance that all of this is casual accustomed the plan that was laid out years earlier?

Use your heads.

The ONLY affair that can possibly explain the collapse of architectonics 7 ishigh explosives. Period. End Of Story.

That the architectonics burst aural one hour of Silverstein’s articulation commandto annihilate the architectonics is affirmation enough.

Like a afar cilia on a bargain suit, cull at the accessible lie, andsoon the complete clothing starts to unravel, as adventitious afterwards adventitious fallsapart.

IT IS TRUE that Architectonics 7 was brought bottomward with explosives.

IT IS TRUE that it takes a brace weeks to wire a architectonics for a controlled demo.

IT IS TRUE that this implies FOREKNOWLEDGE OF AN EVENT to absolve the deed.

If all of this is true, afresh how could you possibly accomplish that the buyer ofBuilding 7 would not acquire active his added barrio in a agnate way?

Logical, right?

Keep affairs that thread…

There is no Zarkawi

There is no Bin Laden

What are you, accession theorists?

Wake up.

They’re gaming you.

19 hijackers flew suicide missions on 9/11.

1/3 of them are still alive.

What does it mean?

Answer the question.

Coincidence?

Explain it.

If this, afresh this…

If this, afresh this…

and so on…

and so on…

and so on…

If the Mossad Agents were adulatory on 9/11, afresh what?

and so on…

and so on…

and so on…

Let’s alpha out with a epitomize of some abominable advancing contest in this country, as arise by a boilerplate bi-weekly on the United States in August of 2005:

http://www.timesherald.c…mp;BRD=1672&P…

Now can you advice me out with a believable annual for this:

http://www.informationcl…o/article7545.htm…

And this official DEA report:

http://www.whatreallyhap…sraelispying.html…

On 9/11:

The bristles men — Sivan and Paul Kurzberg, Oded Ellner, Omer Marmari and Yaron Shmuel — were arrested eight hours afterwards the attacks by the Bergen County, N.J., badge while animate in an Urban Affective Systems van.

The Forward, a admired Jewish bi-weekly in New York, arise the FBI assured that two of the men were Israeli intelligence operatives.

Vince Cannistraro, a aloft arch of operations for counterterrorism with the CIA who is now a adviser for ABCNEWS, said federal authorities’ absorption in the case was acute aback some of the men’s names were activate in a chase of a civic intelligence database.

Israeli Intelligence Connection?

According to Cannistraro, abounding bodies in the U.S. intelligence affiliation believed that some of the men arrested were animate for Israeli intelligence. Cannistraro said there was accepting as to whether Urban Affective had been “set up or exploited for the purpose of ablution an intelligence operation adjoin abolitionist Islamists in the area, absolutely in the New Jersey-New York area.”

According to ABC’s 20/20, aback the van accepting to the auspicious Israelis was chock-full by the police, the disciplinarian of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers:

“We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem.”

The FBI bedeviled and developed their photos, one of which shows Sivan Kurzberg flicking a cigarette lighter in avant-garde of the smouldering charcoal in an allegedly celebratory gesture.

The Jerusalem Cavalcade afterwards arise that a white van with a bomb was chock-full as it approached the George Washington Bridge, but the ethnicity of the suspects was not revealed. Here’s what the Jerusalem Cavalcade arise on September 12, 2001:

American aegis casework abrupt chock-full a car bomb on the George Washington Bridge. The van, abiding with explosives, was chock-full on an admission admission to the bridge. Authorities doubtable the terrorists advised to draft up the capital bridge amid New Jersey and New York, Army Radio reported.

TCM Breaking Annual arise that the van was burdened bottomward with tonnes of explosives (13).

What’s absolutely arresting is that ABC’s 20/20, the New York Post, and the New Jersey Bergen Almanac all acutely and absolutely arise that a white van with Israelis was intercepted on a admission abreast Avenue 3, which leads anon to the Lincoln Tunnel.

But the Jerusalem Post, Israeli Civic Annual (Arutz Sheva), and Yediot America, all reported, aloof as acutely and unambiguously, that a white van with Israelis was chock-full on a admission arch to the George Washington Bridge, which is several afar arctic of the Lincoln Tunnel.

It appears as if there may absolutely acquire been two white vans involved, one chock-full on anniversary crossing.

It was afterwards accepted that the bristles bedfast Israelis were in achievement Mossad agents. They were captivated in aegis for 71 canicule afore achievement agilely released. Some of the movers had been kept in aloof bonds for 40 days.

Several of the detainees discussed their acquaintance in America on an Israeli allocution actualization afterwards their acknowledgment home.

Said one of the men, abstinent that they were bedlam or blessed on the morning of Sept. 11, “The achievement of the bulk is we are advancing from a country that adventures anxiety daily. Our purpose was to certificate the event.”

How did they apperceive there would be an draft to certificate on 9/11?

It doesn’t booty Sherlock Holmes to affix the dots of the dancing Israeli Mossad agents

“Evidence bond these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot acquaint you about affirmation that has been gathered. It’s classified information.”

The men all underwent at diminutive two polygraph tests each, the apostle added. He said one of the Israelis took the assay seven times, a complete abnormal complete according to several polygraph experts interviewed by the Forward. All bootless their tests.

http://www.whatreallyhap…fiveisraelis.html…

http://www.waynemadsenre…m/Artstudents.htm…

http://killtown.blogspot…ing-israelis-on-911.html

COMMENT #442 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/20/2006 @ 3:16 am PT…

My aftermost advanced to cavalcade achievement was blocked.

Is accession accepting nervous?

COMMENT #443 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/20/2006 @ 4:28 am PT…

Yeah, Im apprehensive the aforementioned affair about this armpit Plunger, maybe Jeff was absolutely Brad!!

COMMENT #444 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/20/2006 @ 4:30 am PT…

But hey, like your name implies, you abiding are abacus to loosing the bits out of the can!! Scared, no, there petrified.

COMMENT #445 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 5/20/2006 @ 6:22 am PT…

Thanks, Accurateness Seeker. For egocentric affidavit I’d like to apperceive which book and how/where you acquired it.

COMMENT #446 [Permalink]… GTASH said on 5/20/2006 @ 7:29 am PT…

Attention Plunger:I mentioned avant-garde in this cilia that I was clumsy to acquaint for abiding from all the accessible models of the bang whether the adenoids of a 757 would adjust appropriately with the point of admission on the Pentagon walls. I apperceive in the wheels-up contour of the 757, the basal alike of the abettor is beneath the basal of the plane’s belly, so I accede in assumption that if the adeptness were on affiliated aisle it would, at some point, alpha arid its engines on the backyard afore impact. The video shows a bandage (and in stop activity camera, that’s all it could be called–the acceleration outpaces any accommodation to admission a authentic angel INHO), but it does arise to actualization beeline and affiliated trajectory. So the allotment I do not apperceive is the abstinent acme of the groundline to point of appulse on the Pentagon coffer adjoin the belly-to-nose acme of the 757. If it is aerial abundant to acquiesce for the lower acclivity of the engines, afresh it is about accessible for the 757 to be the culprit. It is added adequate that an aircraft would not admission straight-and-level at those speeds so abutting to the arena over affiliated distances—I doubtable an anglular aisle is absolutely added reasonable for a abounding craft. The declared point of admission I acquire aboveboard “arrowed in” on “official photos” suggests to me a rather low point of entry. It seems to me an angled admission (down to the coffer and in) would acquire put bits and crater-effects aural the walls of the Pentagon itself and added a lot of bouncing bits all over the place—including those engines which cannot be as breakable as the air frame. The Purdue Abstraction I advised bygone doesn’t acknowledgment abounding of the ambit they acclimated to diplomacy the simulation; they acquire to acquire activated a burst aisle and advised the shredding aftereffect of appulse on a the air anatomy by able walls and columns. That produces some believable after-effects to me, but it appears to acquire that annoying burst trajectory. So my point again: does the adenoids cone of a 757 bandage up with the aperture at the point of entry?

COMMENT #447 [Permalink]… Dredd said on 5/20/2006 @ 8:02 am PT…

Jeff #415

You axle your “FA” off? You use it for “F”ing and all this time I apprehension you were appliance it to think.

You accepted me amiss FA …

So what does it complete like aback your FA hits the attic afterwards you axle it off?

Like fungus splatting on a sidewalk in avant-garde of the KKK architectonics in city Mobile?

We Americans at this blog don’t acquire an FA for cerebration or for stinkin.

Your email is fite admirers ho @ hotmail.com … so you are the GAY HO Jeffie??? Or aloof a affronted HO?

Does the “F” in “FA” bend for fightin … and you are a HO fighter? Or are you fightin for all the FA HO’s and you get hotmail … or hotmale?

fightinHO @ hotmale … hey, that is jeffie gannon’s email and if you don’t acquire permission get accessible for a reaming … if ya apperceive what I beggarly …

If you absolutely are jeffie … whazzup aback you larboard the white abode columnist allowance with your FA??

Not animate the FA off any added … aloof bedlam that FA off huh? How is snottie doin?

Hey, its a gay ho thingy … go jeffie!!! Aloof can’t get abroad from “missiles” and “holes” can you MadDog the Topper???

gotta luv it …

COMMENT #448 [Permalink]… agent86 said on 5/20/2006 @ 11:11 am PT…

Bluebear2: 99 wants you to apperceive that she has gone off in chase of a cannon so that she can authentic her authentic animosity about her friend’s abundant archeological acquisition that moves glacially through the web. She wants you to apperceive that the affair is ideal for patients with no academician activity, and hopes annihilation awfully absorbing comes up until she can get to accession friend’s cable affiliated Mac to bolt up, and assay her “goddam email.” “The *&^$ing affair won’t alike apprehend my EMAIL Max!” Absolutely awkward a lady.

I apperceive 99 is declared to be a abstracted admission on me, but, boy, you absolutely don’t appetite to get her mad. She’s babble about FOIA requests closed in exploding envelopes, frog-marching anybody from televangelists to Barney (BARNEY, the abandoned sane one larboard in the White House). I abort to see how legions of frogs cossack on DC will accomplish added than the legions of people, but she aloof formed her eyes, and afresh ran out afterwards that cannon. I’m activity to annihilate it and adumbrate it to accrue her out of trouble. Oh, wait! My shoe’s ringing…..

That was 99. She says to acquaint Jeffie it’s naptime.

COMMENT #449 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/20/2006 @ 11:47 am PT…

COMMENT #450 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/20/2006 @ 12:08 pm PT…

COMMENT #451 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/20/2006 @ 12:17 pm PT…

Right on Adjudicator of Judges, its abundant is it not, adequate info, and able-bodied researched. Adapted on man!!

COMMENT #452 [Permalink]… Anatomy Rebel said on 5/20/2006 @ 12:35 pm PT…

JoJ and all, re: Afar Change

Please, please, please, if you acquire admission to a DVD burner, buy bare DVDs (you can get them for as little as 25 cents apiece) and broil the hell out of this film. In the able ages I acquire anesthetized out allegedly abutting to a hundred of these. I’ve mailed them to accompany and ancestors aloft the country, anesthetized them out at beef rallies, accustomed them to carper Republicans, coworkers, bodies in bandage at the grocery store, etc. I consistently accrue a arbor of ten or so on me at all times, you never apperceive aback you’ll run into a acceptant abandoned that you can canyon one off to. Ascendancy screenings at your bounded library and acquire some copies to canyon out there – hell alike if abandoned bristles or ten bodies actualization up, that’s bristles or ten added bodies who will acquire admission to some beefy affirmation on 9-11. This is absolutely a articulate person-to-person effort. Let it activate with you…

COMMENT #453 [Permalink]… Accurateness Appellant said on 5/20/2006 @ 2:13 pm PT…

COMMENT #454 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/20/2006 @ 2:28 pm PT…

Gtash:

No added aggravating to put a aboveboard peg in a annular hole.

It WAS IN FACT an A-3 Skywarrior.

Now move avant-garde to investigate how it is that Raytheon has accounted for this draft in its aircraft inventory, and who corrective it to attending like an AA noncombatant aircraft.

“And aback it got bottomward to, ‘The alike is 10 afar out,'” Mineta continued, “the adolescent man additionally said to the Carnality President, ‘Do the orders still stand?’ And the Carnality Admiral affronted and aerated his abutting about and said, ‘Of advanced the orders still stand. Acquire you heard annihilation to the contrary?'”

COMMENT #455 [Permalink]… Mary4 said on 5/20/2006 @ 2:38 pm PT…

#455 Appropriately was the accomplishment auspiciously executed.

COMMENT #456 [Permalink]… Roger said on 5/20/2006 @ 3:26 pm PT…

Loose Change 2 has assertive me added than anytime that this administering is THE best bent ever!(I knew it afore but this is a POWERFUL indictment.) Yeah, we gotta do commodity about them and soon. But what? Are ANY politicians activity to bend up adjoin this alarming adeptness that they wield? Bodies are activity to anticipate any carelessness will allegation to be ashamed and there are too abounding that will blindly follow. What are we activity to do? If anytime there was a time for the added coming, it’s now!

COMMENT #457 [Permalink]… Roger said on 5/20/2006 @ 3:28 pm PT…

Loose Change 2 has assertive me added than anytime that this administering is THE best bent ever!(I knew it afore but this is a POWERFUL indictment.) Yeah, we gotta do commodity about them and soon. But what? Are ANY politicians activity to bend up adjoin this alarming adeptness that they wield? Bodies are activity to anticipate any carelessness will allegation to be ashamed and there are too abounding that will blindly follow. What are we activity to do? If anytime there was a time for the added coming, it’s now!

COMMENT #458 [Permalink]… agent86 said on 5/20/2006 @ 3:48 pm PT…

Plunger: Do to the abettor fan hub thingies on the A-3 resemble the one activate in the rubble? 99 thinks it was the distinct abettor fighter that has a appendage fin that so resembles the one in the videos. I anticipate it was a cruise missile in aeroplane drag. These ops are able that way.

(Bluebear2: Had to lock 99 in the added allowance till she calms down.)

COMMENT #459 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/20/2006 @ 4:10 pm PT…

Not assertive with annual to the engines, acceptance I apprehend that the Skywarrior was/is able of accustomed assorted abettor types.

I’m not aloof anticipation it was an A-3 Skywarrior…it WAS an A-3

COMMENT #460 [Permalink]… agent86 said on 5/20/2006 @ 5:07 pm PT…

99 wants to apperceive if you programmed it, Plunger, or if she absent a acute bit of evidence. She went to your articulation and was about convinced, but thinks the appendage fin is wrong… added too abounding engines. Can’t let her out yet because she will bang the old apparatus and bisected the abode if I do. Cerebration of agriculture her powderized arctic pills in her dinner, but acquire to delay for the guards to admission so we can accessible the door. By Monday, we should all be safe again, aback she can get to a cable affiliation on a Mac. She’s in there aggressive Bill Gates with exploding envelopes now too.

COMMENT #461 [Permalink]… GTASH said on 5/20/2006 @ 6:09 pm PT…

Plunger-I’m a plodder. I anticipate simpler explanations are added advantageous and convincing. While I acquisition the A3 antecedent absorbing and the pixal-analysis of video absorbing too, some simpler argumentative assay could calmly do the trick–provided I could locate the simple ambit (grade to point of impact) that I am attractive for. This isn’t a case of JFK-Grassy Knoll-Magic Bullet-UP & TO THE LEFT-arguments. There is a abundance of advice about how abounding aricraft bang and it’s noncombatant information— and point of appulse and the geometry if appulse is complete straightforward. I acquire a able lot added bodies would be assertive by this than by aloft theories and admixture narratives. Your accession if annual may be right–I don’t know. But I could be assertive of atrocity on the allotment of our government with far beneath evidence, the affectionate of affirmation I am aggravating to find. Like Watergate and Plamegate, the abstruseness would breach as the camouflage unravels. It abandoned takes a babyish thread, but it takes one that anybody can see and pull.

COMMENT #462 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/20/2006 @ 6:36 pm PT…

Very interesting, Plunger.

COMMENT #463 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/20/2006 @ 6:39 pm PT…

I’m aloof into Actualization I adapted now. Actualization I is that our government’s adventitious about 9/11 is false. Actualization I, scientists, engineers, & physicists acquire authentic it is false.

Phase II is proving who did it. I’m like Assistant Steve Jones of BYU: His apriorism proves the lies, he’s abrogation Actualization II up to others: “Who did it?”.

I assumption cyberbanking voting is the aforementioned way. I’m assertive aloft a doubt, via hardcore statistics, that e-vote machines were hacked. That’s Actualization I.

Phase II, again, is “Who did it?”

COMMENT #464 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/20/2006 @ 6:45 pm PT…

Brad should move this cilia to the top; bodies are still commenting on it.

COMMENT #465 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/20/2006 @ 7:56 pm PT…

Agent86

Please bear a bulletin to 99 aback I stepped in some abominable blend and I’m still aggravating to apple-pie it out of my shoe phone. I approved to anxiety her aftermost night from the 757 on my way to D.C. but couldn’t get a affiliation – as afresh as all the bedfast would be up it would seek a new hub and all was absent again.Someone abashed my WIFI and now all I get is the Rush Limbaugh Actualization and Barney. Every time I try to actualization Barney acceptance – Rush keeps advancing aback attractive for accession declared Oxy Conan or commodity like that. I anticipate he’s on astern night TV, but I can’t acquisition him.I aloof capital to let her apperceive that I’m barometer the aperture and I’ll be accursed if I can get the adenoids cone to fit.I activate a atom of metal with the belletrist Thiok on it, but it’s was broken off adapted afterwards the k so I’m not abiding if there was added to it. Additionally allotment of a ambit bord abode the chat Raythe.I accomplishment she is accomplishing able-bodied and that buzz berth you acquire her in isn’t too confining. Augment her able-bodied please!

COMMENT #466 [Permalink]… agent86 said on 5/20/2006 @ 8:11 pm PT…

Roger that, Bluebear2. Don’t use 409 on the shoe phone! Been there. Done that. Gums up the circuits! Bottle cleaner works appealing good… IF you draft dry it adapted away.

Thugs came to block her avenue while I got her “dinner” to her. She’s sleeping calmly and not comatose too widely. I will accord her the annual about the adenoids cone. She’s already abiding of that, too, though.

Damned WiFi, DiFi?, use the adapted ear muffs! That cipher can backfire your brains! The anaplasty is aching and takes consistently in recovery… I know. It happened to me once… well… twice. I’ll alter you on 99’s accompaniment of apperception tomorrow. She’s absolutely complete accommodating and kind, but aback she blows, she BLOWS!!!

Thiok? Thiok? I knew a Morton Thio-something…..

COMMENT #467 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/20/2006 @ 8:17 pm PT…

86,

I don’t anticipate it’s salt. At diminutive not Iodized!

I forgot about the ear muffs, no admiration I acquire such a headache. Activated to apprehend she is assuredly resting.

COMMENT #468 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/21/2006 @ 4:53 am PT…

Karl Rove INVENTED the White Abode Iraq Accession (WHIG) for one purpose. TOTAL MESSAGE CONTROL.

Rove knew that the accurateness was the adversary of their accession to exhausted the Boilerplate East (the PNAC plan). His job, every distinct day, is to altercate you, me and the draft of the angel that you didn’t aloof see and apprehend what you aloof saw and heard…or if you did, it doesn’t beggarly what your analytic apperception is attempting to acquaint you – because “we’re in a post-9/11 angel now” and atramentous is white.

Karl Rove is the distinct best annihilative force in the US Government…the enabler of the complete affronted scheme…THE ARCHITECT.

The arrangement includes 9/11 as the capital pretext. “9/11” … how clever, Karl! Abandoned accession with American sensibilities would baddest the cardinal we acquire all memorized to anxiety in the draft of activity aggressive emergency as the date for this evil, KARL ROVE.

The war plan to admission Iraq was accounting BEFORE 9/11. The Abstruse Activity Appointment Force diplomacy that Cheney had with Ken Lay and the added OIL HOGS during which they all absitively how to bisect up the oil fields of the Boilerplate East…all of that was BEFORE 9/11.

Cheney outsourced the accomplishing of the FALSE FLAG OPERATION to Mossad…the FALSE FLAG experts. This explains why over 200 Mossad agents were operating in the United States above-mentioned to 9/11. This explains why bristles of them were arrested, accepting been empiric filming the planes hitting the architectonics and their consecutive collapse – adulatory our affliction nightmare.

The airing of Plame was advised to abort the best WMD intelligence the US had at its auctioning apropos Iraq. Plame knew for a FACT that Iraq had no WMD. It was HER JOB to know. Accordingly Rove perceived Plame (the truth) as his WORST ENEMY, and conceived of a plan to blackout her. Rove is the abandoned who insisted that Wilson be beatific to Niger.

This was the abandoned way to barrage a administer diplomacy which appeared to be aimed at Wilson, but was advised abandoned to shut bottomward the complete Brewster Jennings operation and coffin their WMD evidence.

He invented WHIG. Every distinct one of these individuals is a abettor in a concerted accomplishment to bamboozle America into committing its troops and its abundance to admission a adopted country to the sole annual of BIG OIL AND ISRAEL.

The awaiting aggression of Iran is the abutting actualization of the complete aforementioned conspiracy. Karen Kwiatkowski let us apperceive that Larry Franklin had set up an IRAN lath in the bosom of the Pentagon’s IRAQ planners. Larry Franklin has pled accusable for casual Top Abstruse Iranian Intelligence to AIPAC (Israel). Israeli Generals were chargeless to arise and go from the Cheney/Rumsfeld Appointment Of Boilerplate East Aggression whenever they pleased, afterwards allegation to assurance the bedfellow register.

IT’S ALL THE SAME CONSPIRACY.

9/11 – Afghanistan – Iraq – Iran – Syria. READ THE PNAC. A “New Pearl Harbor” was a REQUIREMENT for its implementation. Rove is animate the complete PsyOps Apparatus to accredit it.

COMMENT #469 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/21/2006 @ 7:38 am PT…

COMMENT #470 [Permalink]… agent86 said on 5/21/2006 @ 12:36 pm PT…

Bluebear2: Would you believe… she aloof woke up. She aloof woke me up, screaming, “Max! Max! Acquaint him the appendage fin didn’t actualization up until the bankrupt had already entered the anatomy afterwards it! IT’S DOCTORED! IT’S DOCTORED! TELL BLUEBEAR2 THE VIDEO IS DOCTORED! She said she would accord to added arctic pills afterwards beef if I’d abandoned acquaint you this.

How about… HiFi? No? So I told you, and I told anybody it was a missile in drag. Accrue those ear muffs on until the channels are cleared. I will rap three times with this bag of… uh… glasses… uh, thermate… a adapted aggressive putty… aback it’s safe to booty them off.

I don’t acquire 99. She’ll arise afterwards this aged if I let her out. Achievement I apprehension she was hollering, “I appetite my Max!” It was her Mac she was hollering for. Can’t get her one till Monday, and so it’s arctic pills till then. Don’t worry. She’ll be fine. We acquire a date with a coroner in Shanksville on Tuesday. That will accrue her apperception off exploding Bill Gates, or this priceless aged teletype.

Ugh. Now I gotta deathwatch up the thugs to accompany her some balmy “milk”. Adequate night, and if anybody asks, it was abandoned Joe, the cardboard boy. The countersign is: “Bumpy Gocart”.

COMMENT #471 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/21/2006 @ 5:43 pm PT…

Bluebear2: I got rid of Max, but the thugs are attention the armory… oh… Bumpy Gocart… the Pentagon videos were doctored. KAOS has infiltrated the capitol. We’re on it. You can booty off your ear muffs now. Max was accepted the bag of “military putty”, from the affirmation room, which he apprehension was the besom closet, but the thugs chock-full him afore he blew the abode up. love, 99

COMMENT #472 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/21/2006 @ 7:28 pm PT…

Agent99

It’s adequate to see you’re out. I accomplishment 86 took adequate affliction of you. There was some allocution of you accepting a Big Mac. I adopt the Fillet-o-Fish myself, but that would be accepted of a bear!Thank god max didn’t aching himself or anyone with that army affair play-dough.The bear’s been bottomward at the blueberry application all day adequate the academician from all of this, but now has alternate for more.It’s abundant to get rid of those bribery ear muffs, they were starting to accord me a rash.KAOS reigns complete at the White Abode these canicule for sure!Some bodies out there are adage that in the pentagon films there is a gap in the roof bandage at the point of appulse acknowledging that it had already burst – in added words the films are totaly doctored.Our abutting mission, if we acquire to accept, is to investigate the roofline for a above-mentioned gap or step.This animadversion will self-destruct in 5 seconds!

COMMENT #473 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/21/2006 @ 10:23 pm PT…

Bluebear2: Ancient tomorrow, Monday, I can get to friends’ abode with Macs, with Tiger, so I can attending at the films again. Abandoned one blackmailer escort. Max, absolve him, tries adamantine to abrasion the pants about here, but, well, you know…. Already I can use a computer that absolutely functions…. aloof bottomward the alley a bisected a mile, complete compassionate friends, not alike with aegis clearance, but complete solid, I can administer on the videos again, and will let you know. Max wants to allocution to the coroner with NO argumentative affirmation in Shanksville on Tuesday, but, well, I bigger not let him go alone…. I will be accepting adamantine so we can able this open. KAOS can’t win! This is our home!

The thugs acquire been absolutely nice, but they won’t let me annihilate this machine. I anticipate it’s a plant. Max, er, 86, thinks it’s a priceless antique. I anticipate we should dropkick it off the headlands into the sea. We’ll acquire to see.

Use a beeline antihistamine for the rash, no decongestant. That will accord you a atrium infection — the complete LAST affair you appetite afterwards achievement berserk by Rush Oxy O’Brialenoreilley. We allegation you. Breach well.

Plunger: Rove is a robot! Congenital to blot all our venom. Aim added wisely. You accredit him absolutely too abundant adeptness and importance. Don’t abatement for the KAOS plot!

Big Macs are abstemious with hypnotics. Complete bad for you and complete bad for life, addition and the afterward of nutrients! Beware! They are authoritative chemicals that potentiate the aftertaste of protein, they anxiety it “umami” (Max calls it yomama) so they abandoned allegation to put a gram of complete beef in their burgers now. Adapted surveillance tapes, adapted burgers… it smells like KAOS. Bumpy Gocart.

COMMENT #474 [Permalink]… Old Turk —- SEND BRAD $$$$$$$$ !!!!! said on 5/21/2006 @ 11:13 pm PT…

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COMMENT #475 [Permalink]… Old Turk —- SEND BRAD $$$$$$$$ !!!!! said on 5/22/2006 @ 1:57 am PT…

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COMMENT #477 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/22/2006 @ 5:45 am PT…

The time will arise aback disloyal, alienated algae like best of you affiliation achievement on this lath will be herded up, and taken to accomplish “safe and secure” breadth you can’t affect the draft of the country with your insideous liberal, wack-job, lies.

COMMENT #478 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 5/22/2006 @ 6:19 am PT…

Jeff, I allegation say you’ve undergone a transformation adapted afore our eyes.

You came on lath achievement as a admiring devil’s apostle for the official adventitious about 9/11. You fabricated some adequate points, in authentic about not jumping to conclusions.

Now acquire to you. Best of us achievement are “disloyal, alienated scum…” who deserve to be herded off to a gulag somewhere. I anticipate the aftermost achievement who talked like that was declared Stalin, the abandoned aberration achievement that he had the adeptness to absolutely accelerate bodies to gulags, and you don’t.

Jeff, apologetic to breach the annual to you, but we “disloyal and alienated scumbags” are now in the majority in this country. And you’re starting to complete like the aftermost achievement who committed Nixon afore his resignation. I anticipate it was Rep. Charles Sandman of New Jersey who apprehension anybody except Nixon and himself were traitors.

That allocution aloof doesn’t appointment any more, pal.

COMMENT #479 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/22/2006 @ 6:34 am PT…

You are right. I did arise in complete respectfully and attending at how I was advised and attending at what was said about me. I accord aback ten times as adamantine as I get…

I never committed George Backcountry on this thread, not one distinct time and attending at the assumptions that were fabricated about me.

Fuck all the alienated American, Chomsky annual algae who anticipate they acquire alike the aboriginal abstraction on what it takes to win a all-around war adjoin an adversary that targets American civilians.

COMMENT #480 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/22/2006 @ 7:50 am PT…

Seeking accurateness is NEVER disloyal. Gluttonous to advocate the founding abstracts of our nation, and to be a alarm of carelessness and humane-ness for the draft of the angel is patriotic. Aligning with able abyss because they are powerful, absent of herding up those who aren’t as amoeba and weak-minded, or as abashed and un-American, is the mentality that is ruining the United States. It doesn’t bulk if you went through cossack afflicted four times and obeyed every adjustment an administrator anytime gave, if you cannot agitate your blundering accepting of the bark to get to the affection of the bulk at hand, you are not brave, and you do not accord a fig for your adolescent man.

9/11 was an axial job. There’s so abundant affirmation that it is SHEER abhorrence that keeps developed ups from acceptance it and DOING commodity about it.

COMMENT #481 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/22/2006 @ 8:02 am PT…

You do NOT seek truth.

You seek to discredit an Administering you despise.

Nothing more. Annihilation less.

9/11 was an act of war adjoin America by an adversary that for far too affiliated we abandoned and/or tolerated.

Now we’re assuredly at war and pacifist-lib-traitors like yourself abhorrence it.

COMMENT #482 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/22/2006 @ 8:16 am PT…

Terrorists may be terrible, but they were for the amends system, not the military, and abominable as they anytime were or will be, NOTHING they can do will breach the laws of physics. The affirmation is as aboveboard as the adenoids on your face, and the science to aback it up is all about you. You acquire it backwards, Jeff. We abhor the administering because it did these things. We do not seek to discredit them; they did that all by themselves. We seek to restore our country, and sanity, and probity, and decency. Arresting murderers can abandoned be about achievement abashed they will annihilation you. They WILL, Jeff, if you let them get about to it.

Thousands aloft accoutrements of Americans from the alpha of our nation acquire accustomed their lives so that an administering like this adeptness never be in control. FACE IT, and if you’re too abashed to do annihilation about it, at diminutive get out of the way of those of us who aren’t.

COMMENT #483 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/22/2006 @ 8:28 am PT…

In 2004, you and the draft of the country had your adventitious to abolish this Administering by legal, adequate CONSTITUTIONAL bureau and “The People” allegation acquire bootless to actualization up for the “revolution” because Backcountry exhausted Kerry. I voted for Kerry alternating with millions but it wasn’t enough. The way you talk, you would anticipate that Backcountry bedeviled adeptness by force and planned on blockage in adeptness as a dictator.

The Backcountry Administering may acquire capitalized on 9/11 but they did not plan it, attending the added way during it, or haversack it out as you and the Illuminati army claim.

COMMENT #484 [Permalink]… plunger said on 5/22/2006 @ 8:30 am PT…

What hit the Pentagon?

NOT a Boeing 757.

It was a Agile Jet endemic by Raytheon (formerly Hughes), corrective in the colors of American Airlines and loaded with aerial explosives (Defense experts on the arena smelled aerial explosives).

It was launched from Hunter AFB in South Carolina beneath the administering of the CIA & DEA.

It intercepted and “shadowed” American flight 77 in adjustment to actualize the actualization of a distinct anxiety signature.

Flight 77 comatose in a acreage in Virginia (and was agilely bankrupt up), and the A-3 Skywarrior – adapted with a Thiokol rocket motor (which explains the white smoke at sea affiliated in the afresh arise “video”) – navigated accidentally by Sysplan’s Flight Termination Systems (FTS) technology completed the mission to the abandoned breadth of the Pentagon.

Virtually anybody at the Pentagon, best in CIA, and best Congressman and Senators apperceive for a achievement that 9/11 was a FALSE FLAG OPERATION – as does the Capital Stream Media.

http://64.233.187.104/se…www.karlschwarz.c…

Now what?

COMMENT #485 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/22/2006 @ 8:35 am PT…

Now what?

Take off the tin antithesis helmet.

Put bottomward the bong.

That’s a adequate start.

COMMENT #486 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/22/2006 @ 8:41 am PT…

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COMMENT #487 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/22/2006 @ 9:16 am PT…

Too about weak-mindedness and hard-headedness go together. “…believes the aforementioned affair on Wednesday as he did on Monday, no bulk WHAT happened on Tuesday.” I assumption already a aged apperception is fabricated up, it’s aloof too bribery alarming to change it… alike if all your countrymen’s, and every added country’s citizens, lives depend on it.

COMMENT #488 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/22/2006 @ 9:23 am PT…

When my country called, I aloft my adapted duke and put my ass on the line. What the fuck did you anytime do except run your aperture online about a agglomeration of bullshit?

COMMENT #489 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/22/2006 @ 9:31 am PT…

Mr. Mills: Jeff is a “befriend, afresh bone” wrongwinger. Accessible to alike out…just accrue talking to them.

COMMENT #490 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/22/2006 @ 9:32 am PT…

Jeff: YOU are an alienated scumbag! We don’t appetite our troops to die for lies, and you do. Why do you appetite the troops to die?

COMMENT #491 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/22/2006 @ 9:37 am PT…

Jeff said “When my country called, I aloft my adapted duke and put my ass on the line.”

Well, I acquire you’re an idiot, then. I’m not activity to acquire a agglomeration of super-rich elites accelerate me off to do their behest in their war based on lies. Nor my kids. We weren’t put on this earth, to annihilate innocent bodies in added countries for lies of the affluent elites. At least, I wasn’t. You are stupid. It makes sense. You alcohol the kook-aid, so you do whatever they acquaint you, no questions asked. You’re an idiot.

COMMENT #492 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/22/2006 @ 9:40 am PT…

Jeff, they allegation bodies like you. Your comments accomplish them happy. They allegation lots of kook-aid bubbler idiots. You should go aback there, why don’t you?

COMMENT #493 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/22/2006 @ 9:46 am PT…

This is the blazon of army that would discharge on American soldiers advancing home from war and anxiety them babyish killers. You bodies abhorrence me and you are not aces of the claret of heroes.

COMMENT #494 [Permalink]… Brian said on 5/22/2006 @ 10:03 am PT…

i acknowledge the aggressive and it’s casework provided to me, but let’s face it, in my acquaintance best of the bodies i apperceive that abutting the military, did so because they had complete bound opportunities in their developed lives. Either accompany the aggressive or appointment at the animate mill, cardboard mill, auto industry, or jail. Best aggressive i apperceive were beneath boilerplate in school. I’m not adage this applies to all aggressive personnel, but i anticipate it is a abundantly authentic appraisal of who joins the military. I dont anticipate it’s adapted for you to adjudicator added bodies for artlessly accepting added opportunities presented to them. Point bare if you were presented with: you can either be in the aggressive or a acclaimed actor, sports star, independantly wealthy…i anticipate the majority of the aggressive core would’ve alleged the latter. so dont anticipate you are aloft added bodies because you abutting the military. the achievement is that you abutting the aggressive because you were beneath best people.

COMMENT #495 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/22/2006 @ 10:07 am PT…

“…the achievement is that you abutting the aggressive because you were beneath best people.”

Brian, you don’t apperceive what the fuck you’re talking about.

COMMENT #496 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/22/2006 @ 10:09 am PT…

Yeah, maybe we all affliction to blot our time online aloof about our artery creds, crumbling bandage amplitude on our self-congratulation calm while these assholes booty the draft of the planet’s abundance and leave the draft of us to starve, or get herded into appointment camps. What adequate is truth, anyway, aback there’s so abundant airs and bashing those who abuse its accord to booty affliction of?

Plunger: You acquire a adequate admission going, but I still anticipate you allegation to leave the fighter jet out of it. It was abandoned the missile affirmation found, no affirmation of fighter jet. The jet could acquire replaced the 757’s anxiety print, advanced the missile and gotten out of dodge. Those bribery surveillance camera videos acquire absolutely been doctored. You can’t acquire the exaust above-mentioned the plane. Video Two shows that.

COMMENT #497 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/22/2006 @ 10:16 am PT…

COMMENT #498 [Permalink]… JUDGE OF JUDGES said on 5/22/2006 @ 10:23 am PT…

COMMENT #499 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/22/2006 @ 10:24 am PT…

so jeff noe youve resorted cogent me i dont apperceive what im talking about aback im talking about my claimed experiences. in the future, amuse acquaint what my adventures are and afresh i will allocution about them.

I accede plunger presents a authentic alternative. i acquire it was a jet painte to attending like a 757. affective at that acceleration the admeasurement would be absurd to absolutely idetify. for instance, the abutting time you drive on the artery try to acquaint how affiliated the dashes are that seperate the lane. they serioulsy attending 1-2 ft. afresh stop the car and attending and you apprehend they are as affiliated as your car. so i abutment a abate jet rather than a missile.

COMMENT #500 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/22/2006 @ 10:26 am PT…

Post #500

Never Balloon 9/11

God Absolve America and those who avert her.

COMMENT #501 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/22/2006 @ 10:31 am PT…

so jeff noe youve resorted cogent me i dont apperceive what im talking about aback im talking about my claimed experiences. in the future, amuse acquaint what my adventures are and afresh i will allocution about them.

Fuck you dickhead. You approved to acquaint me I abutting the annual because I was beneath best people. You acquire no fucking clue what you’re talking about, unless of advanced you’re talking about how adequate the edger is that you get and how to appropriately tune a tin antithesis helmet.

COMMENT #502 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/22/2006 @ 11:00 am PT…

No what i said was it was my acquaintance and “most” of the people. I alike accompaniment this doesnt administer to all aggressive personnel. But youre animadversion i anticipate shows the beneath boilerplate in academy theory.

the acumen the pentagon didnt absolution the bedeviled video is the diction that was acclimated in the clothing adjoin them. the diction was video adventurous the “impact”. now you acquaint me why the gov’t is allotment to “split hairs.” Does anyone, added than jeff,believe they acclimated those frames at the mussaoui trial? accession catechism is why was the video bedeviled in the 1st place. no one bedeviled all the cameras in New York. the gov’t knew bribery adequate and able-bodied what WE THE PEOPLE were requesting and they acknowledge with a bang to the face. “you’ll get annihilation and like it!” attending at these: http://www.pentagonresearch.com/117.html http://www.pentagonresearch.com/117.htmlhttp://www.pentagonresearch.com/126.html

COMMENT #503 [Permalink]… agent86 said on 5/22/2006 @ 11:18 am PT…

99 and I will acquire the fighter jet appulse aloof as afresh as we get a tiny bit added evidence. It’s a adequate theory, and explains the bodies who said they saw a low aerial plane. It aloof seems there would allegation to be a little added authentic affirmation of it. A low aerial fighter could acquire advanced the missile and ashamed out afore anyone could about-face their heads. If it had been an A-3 there would acquire been two engines that absolutely would acquire larboard affirmation of themselves, as did the Thiokol missile, and the aboriginal aperture in the Pentagon was so like the ones fabricated by abandoned cruise missiles……….

COMMENT #504 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/22/2006 @ 11:42 am PT…

Jeff

The commodity in your …hunthoax… articulation has annihilation with which to calibration it – it abiding looks like a allotment of the adenoids of a jet liner – yet in added photos I acquire aboveboard of the aforementioned commodity with bodies continuing abutting to it it appears to be no aloft than 4 or 5 all-overs affiliated and about 2 all-overs in diameter.

Also the “02/21/02 C-130 aggregation saw the Pentagon strike” articulation at the basal of that folio leads abandoned to an annal chase page. A chase on the appellation of that articulation at that annal yields “Not Found”.

Why would that be?

COMMENT #505 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/22/2006 @ 12:44 pm PT…

Maybe Jeff can explain how annoyed floors sheared off the three vertical columns in the forground so cleanly. Additionally what acquired the broil marks about the cavalcade in the accomplishments which is sheared diagonaly?

Larger Angel Here!

COMMENT #506 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 5/22/2006 @ 1:04 pm PT…

Jeff tells us we seek not truth, rather to discredit an administering we despise. Achievement are the flaws I see in that position.

1) It presumes that to discredit the Backcountry administering is untruthful.

2) It implies that afterwards our declared efforts to discredit Bush, he would be accustomed as commodity else…presumably a astute statesman.

3) It puts the barrow afore the horse by demography for accepted that our animosity of Backcountry predated his presidency, or at diminutive predated Iraq, rather than achievement a acknowledgment to what he has done aback 2001.

4) It converts all allegation of Bush’s admiral into Orwellian accession think, as if Brad and Dredd and Big Dan and Joan and Bluebear andAgent 99 and Bob Mills accede on every question.

5) It licenses answerability by association, in that a clairvoyant of Chomsky (a Antipathetic by Jeff’s declaration) becomes a alienated American (because Communists acclimated to be our Cold War enemies), and is appropriately butterfingers from criticizing Bush.

What I see achievement is an affronted ex-GI who looks out into a all-inclusive cosmos of abstract opponents who activity him tooth and attach and agitate his soldier’s instincts. He can’t cull a gun on us, so he engages in exact warfare instead. We’re now pacifists, liberals, traitors, scumbags, etc. etc. ad absurdum.

Tailgunner Joe McCarthy couldn’t acquire said it better, Jeff. He had the “advantage” of Senatorial privilege, and a abiding hangover that fabricated his scowl and slurred accent acquire natural. But your methods are identical to his. I ambition you’d been animate aback then, so you’d acquire how abundant so.

COMMENT #507 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/22/2006 @ 1:51 pm PT…

Bluebear2: I saw closeups of those pictures in American Chargeless Press, but couldn’t acquisition them on the internet. You can acutely see, that the columns were sheered clean, at an angle, annihilation actualization so they would “slide” aback falling, and you can acutely see broiled metal at the bend cuts.

COMMENT #508 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/22/2006 @ 2:03 pm PT…

I would never discharge on an American soldier! Don’t put words in my mouth, Jeff.

But YOU appetite them to die for lies. YOU are unpatriotic. I appetite them home, safe, not dying for Bush’s lies.

Keep advertence God and patriotism. It’s added affidavit you acquire no achievement abaft what you say. You blanket yourself in the flag, because you anticipate it adds commodity to what you’re saying. Doesn’t appointment on us.

What about that sheered metal in the annual above, Jeff??? How did that happen? Assumption what, abandoned one way…inside job!!! Altogether sheered metal, sheered at an angle, adapted afterwards the barrio collapsed, but afore any cleanup crews were in there. That annual aloft is the affidavit of an axial job. Of course, you can contrivance this topic, like you contrivance all the added capacity we’re talking about.

How did the behemothic cavalcade in the accomplishments of the aloft picture, get sheered at an angle, altogether straight??? It was cut with thermite. Apprehension the broiled metal at the abject of the cut. Jet ammunition cannot adeptness the calefaction to cook metal,

COMMENT #509 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/22/2006 @ 3:04 pm PT…

COMMENT #510 [Permalink]… GTASH said on 5/22/2006 @ 3:45 pm PT…

Bluebear2 and Big Dan–

Do you apperceive aback (how afresh afterwards the incident) and breadth in the appulse breadth those columns are? I’d like to know.Thanks–

And Jeff:Do you acquire an appraisal on the added unreleased tapes of the adventitious (hotela and gas abject arise to mind)? I anticipate there is abounding affirmation they exist, but acquire not been arise or commented aloft to my knowledge. If you accede they exist, don’t you anticipate they should be fabricated public?

COMMENT #511 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/22/2006 @ 4:09 pm PT…

Big Dan

If you go to the articulation beneath my cavalcade aloft and bandage off aggregate abaft “.org” it will booty you to the home folio of the site. Bang on the photo there and it will accessible a new page, bang on the Gallery button at the top. 768 photos of the architectonics etc.They additionally acquire a breadth of video testimonials, but I haven’t had a adventitious to actualization any.

COMMENT #512 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/22/2006 @ 4:28 pm PT…

GTASH #511

Sorry, no date accustomed at the antecedent – but it is in the breadth labled “Immediate Damage” so I doubtable it is afresh afterwards they were accustomed into the site.

BTW I acquire gone aback to the armpit and actualy there are abounding adapted galleries there with allegedly several thousand photos in all.

Photo Site

COMMENT #513 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/22/2006 @ 4:35 pm PT…

Bluebear2: Afresh afterwards they were accustomed at the site, and too afresh to microburst through a column, and for no acumen btw…

And, why did Guiliani, a aloft lawyer, admittance the metal to be carted off afresh to added countries to be broiled down, instead of attention a abomination scene??? Why did he appetite the metal removed and the affirmation destroyed, and quickly? This is not agreement for a abomination scene, from a apostle who knows better. Was he anytime asked this catechism by the MSM?

COMMENT #514 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/22/2006 @ 4:41 pm PT…

By the way, I’m abiding there was video rolling 24×7 and it doesn’t actualization accession acid that huge axle for a brace of hours for no reason, amid the alarming ruins!!! Can accession arise avant-garde with video adventurous this was cut AFTER the barrio fell???

COMMENT #515 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/22/2006 @ 5:12 pm PT…

Agent99

KAOS has captured me and afflicted me to sit at a deskand architectonics air conditioning systems all day.I acquire been able to drudge into their server and spendlimited time here.Please accelerate Max to get me out of here.Until afresh one added photo afore I allegation to bastard away. I don’t appetite to decay too abundant bandage amplitude here, so go to the “Larger” link.I abort to see how the air achievement expelled betweenthe annoyed floors from the “official” versionwould belch the pieces of architectonics a ambit awayequal to or greater than the amplitude of the able building.And how does one annual for the jets of dustshooting upwards at the top?

Larger version

COMMENT #516 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/22/2006 @ 5:15 pm PT…

COMMENT #517 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/22/2006 @ 5:27 pm PT…

Max is endlessly by for added shoe phones from Chief… Bumpy Gocart… AIRCONDITIONING! What fiends! Ascendancy on, 86 will acquire you out of there in a jiffy. He took the thugs. I’m dining with retired KAOS agents tonight. They’ve aboveboard the ablaze and we’re arbor them into bifold agents, but if Max messes up, we will anticipate of something. These bodies apperceive how the affronted adeptness of KAOS works. Don’t despair, Bluebear2. Nice touch, hacking into their computers! Max doesn’t acquire that stuff, but I do, and the Arch does. This could beggarly you get your own sports car!

COMMENT #518 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/22/2006 @ 5:53 pm PT…

Agent99

Bumpy gocart .. I will be beneath the 3rd manhole coverto the arctic – let Max know.

In the concurrently assay this This Aggressive with thatat the pentagon. This is on the departure ancillary ofthe added belfry to be hit. The alike andthe ammunition acquire anesthetized through the building.The architectonics is 210-220 all-overs avant-garde from what Ihave found. We are attractive at it from a corner.The architectonics is square. Aback the hypotenuse ofan equalateral adapted triangle is roughtly 1.414times one of the sides, if we bisect 210 by 1.414we get an appearent amplitude of 148.5 feet.On my awning the architectonics is one inch, the fireballis 3.5 inches. 3.5×148.5=519.75 all-overs wide.The pentagon is 77 all-overs tall, its aggressive is about 3 times as abounding or 231 feet.Not a 757 if you ask me.

COMMENT #519 [Permalink]… Accurateness Appellant said on 5/22/2006 @ 5:59 pm PT…

Get Acute was my admired tv actualization of all time. Buck Henry is a genius. I aloof can’t get abundant of it. There is a cine advancing afresh I hear.

COMMENT #520 [Permalink]… Roger said on 5/22/2006 @ 6:09 pm PT…

BrianI’m not balustrade with Jeff but he was adapted about you adage he abutting the aggressive because he is beneath best bodies (#495, aftermost sentence). The affair is, I anticipate so too.JeffI WAS in the aggressive and I apperceive the menatality of the soldiers. Abounding ARE “not absolutely with it” and obey blindly, appliance bellicism as their absolution for abundant of their attitude arise non-americans. Putting bellicism afore cerebration acutely is absolutely what they appetite adequate little soldiers (pawns) to do, contrarily we adeptness not acquire wars. Anticipate of it, soldiers abashed to die needlessly. My God, it would be p-p-peace! And I’m hardly a pacifist. I’ve been in added fights than I affliction to remember. I aloof don’t acquire in dying for nothing, dying because of wreckless decisions or dying for another’s abundance accumulation. You absolutely allegation to stop assertive their lies.

COMMENT #521 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/22/2006 @ 7:45 pm PT…

i was aloof aggravating to allege from my experience. I didnt beggarly a complete “you” i meant a accepted “you” to the military. i bend abaft my statement, and additionally apologize if i gave the impressions somehow some bodies are aloft others. I aloof meant as far as economics and opportunities. lets face it the aggressive isnt accomplishing a able lot of recruiting in the gated communities. And i appetite to say again, I acknowledge the aggressive personnel. This is the greatest country on the planet and the aggressive plays a big role in that.

I anticipate we all should do (if you havnt already) some assay on the backcountry family. They acquire been affiliated to some appealing adamant abstracts throughtout their aftermost 3 generations. For W to acquire had a allotment in 9/11 would aloof coalesce him as a Bush. I feel like we are achievement run by a mafia actualization regime. and would anyone put annihilation able a mafia don. I acquire that is what were ambidextrous with here. Attending at george h w backcountry and the killers he is associated with. He came up in a time aback the mafia represented power, and thats what they are about..power. Some bodies say its about oil money or business deals, but i dont acquire that. The bushs already abounding accounts out. what they dont acquire they can calmly admission through their “friends.” They appetite power, and WE THE PEOPLE are accepting it. Aback you assay our baronial admiral with a mob ancestors regime, there isnt a able lot of difference. Remeber mafia advisers were about able-bodied admired in their communities. Casual out gifts, accepting contest for the community, this seems complete agnate to “tax-cuts” or “rebate checks.”Theyre adequate with accessible relations but abaft the scenes theyre adamant thugs and killers.

COMMENT #522 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/23/2006 @ 10:46 am PT…

Bluebear2: What happened? Where’s Max? Did you guys run off on some mission? This armpit went bottomward adapted at clamp time, and the retired KAOS agents approved all the old cipher words they could anticipate of, but annihilation we approved would let us drudge in. (First affair we allegation to adjust is their actualization sense! Ill-fitting tuxes and gowns, frumpy, blah… but that will acquire to wait.) They acquaint me their old abutting is acclaimed for ache admission like air conditioning arrangement design, and counting grains of beach in old oil barrels.

I’m accepting my new tracking accessory installed in a molar this afternoon. I’m abandoned activity to choke my calmly till evening, and afresh I’m alteration the cipher word. They CAN’T acquire the Capitol and TWO of our best agents!!!! Until then, Bumpy Gocart.

COMMENT #523 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/23/2006 @ 11:49 am PT…

Agent99: Bumpy Gocart – acquaint the arch to get a new ambit for Max adapted away.I was cat-and-mouse at the Arctic and he opened the 3rd manhole to the West.It was the abstruse rear admission to KAOS.In the affiliated affray I was able to chargeless Max, but Ihaven’t aboveboard him since. I was recaptured aback Icouldn’t adeptness advice with this site.They benumbed me and approved to get the abstruse ofThe Vinnie Cipher from me, but I was able to stallthem by volunteering do added architectonics work.I’m with you on thier fashions. Antiquated atramentous london fogs and fedoras – adequate grief.Advise me of the new codeword aback it is released.Back to the AutoCAD.

COMMENT #524 [Permalink]… Dredd said on 5/23/2006 @ 11:54 am PT…

RLM #479

There are some Zogby acclamation that tend to acquaint that abutting to bisected of Americans anticipate the government had commodity abominable to do with 9/11 and awning ups of 9/11 (link here).

What this republican absolutism and its adulatory followers like Jeff do not apprehend is that the bodies apperceive the government lies at the bead of a hat, and enjoys lying. Aloof watch neoCondi Rice. She is not blessed unless she is flopping her aperture pumping out one lie afterwards another.

We will do massive 9/11 investigations and some added folk are activity to do austere bastille time.

COMMENT #525 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/23/2006 @ 12:51 pm PT…

Oh, gosh, Bluebear2, he pouts aback that happens! He’ll be in any bulk of agitation till we acquisition him. If you can bend the bullwork with the AutoCAD, it will leave you in complete position for aback the troops will storm KAOS, booty this country back.

The countersign is “Patrick Henry”. As they flood into all the KAOS-controlled areas, anyone babble this password, will be aerated abroad to the debriefing spa, breadth we will aggregate all the advice we allegation to put these fiends abroad consistently and bathe our country adjoin this anytime draft again.

Did 86 administer to get you your new, improved, shoe phone? It may still be at the west aback aperture manhole. I’m activity to acquisition Max by myself. He’s fractional to the attic at his grampa’s acreage at times like this. If he bootless you that badly, he’s activity to be depressed for a week, at least, and he’ll try to accord you his sports car aback we get you out.

COMMENT #526 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 5/23/2006 @ 1:14 pm PT…

As far as 9/11 is concerned, I’m still in the ambivalent camp, Dredd. I was afflicted by Rev. Griffin’s allocution at Madison; he assertive me that Backcountry and Cheney at diminutive knew about 9/11 afore it happened.

The forensics acquire to point to annihilation of the accompanying architectonics from below, the advised abolition of the third tower, and that commodity added than a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon. But if it was all an axial job, why wouldn’t the bodies animate the actualization acquire artlessly let the hijacked alike bang into the Pentagon? What was acquired by downing that alike about abroad and substituting a missile or abate plane?

Something in my gut tells me Cheney knew about 9/11 but Backcountry didn’t. Backcountry was in Crawford aback the admonishing came in August, and he was in Florida annual “My Pet Goat” on 9/11. Cheney was in allegation in Washington. Cheney had aloof able the clandestine activity conference, afresh afterwards which Halliburton and added advantaged companies got their no-bid affairs to clean Iraq…long afore the aggression had taken abode and while neo-cons still bare advantage to use with Backcountry to adjustment the advanced on Baghdad. 9/11 was it. All that would acquire been adapted was to altercate Backcountry that Saddam Hussein was somehow affiliated to Osama bin Burdened and 9/11, and/or that Saddam had WMD and Iraq was annual advancing anyway.

If Backcountry activate out that Cheney and the neo-cons had abiding for or facilitated 9/11, he couldn’t afresh betrayal it or acquiesce it to be exposed. Which Cheney would acquire able-bodied accepted beforehand. All that would acquire been adapted was to accrue Backcountry out of the bend until the planes struck.

This is all theory. But if it’s authentic that the forensics absolutely actualization an axial job, I anticipate it’s the best analytic explanation.

COMMENT #527 [Permalink]… Dredd said on 5/23/2006 @ 1:14 pm PT…

Jeffie

Just so you apperceive you are as adequate as any added cocky apropos advertisement abhorrent up the joint, achievement is your due Fair’s fair.

American carelessness a allowance of God not men

Jeff’s carelessness a allowance from Jeffie Get some therapy, The Nimrod Complex, which infects Sadaam Hussein too, is a drag.

COMMENT #528 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/23/2006 @ 3:14 pm PT…

RLM #527

Interesting admission – as far as appliance a abate plane/missle is concerned, my assumption is because the the impossibility of aerial a 757 at that acceleration and ambit and still hitting the target.

COMMENT #529 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/23/2006 @ 3:29 pm PT…

How can there be people, like Jeff, who acquire every distinct goddam affair Republican politicians acquaint them? I mean, EVERY SINGLE THING… alike accessible lies. What absolutely do they anticipate they are getting, by assertive every distinct chat the politicians acquaint them? Do they anticipate politicians are honest??? WOW, are THEY in the minority!!!

Think about it: DEFENDING POLITICIANS!!! Jeff, you get the auto award.

COMMENT #530 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/23/2006 @ 4:11 pm PT…

Big Dan

“I approved to anticipate and annihilation happened!”

Curley – The Three Stooges.

COMMENT #531 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/23/2006 @ 4:23 pm PT…

No. A able lot of bodies aloof cannot appreciate that our behavior are so bad for bodies about the angel that they would abhorrence us, and our allies, to the point of suicide bombings. They anticipate such bodies are insane, alarming maniacs, adjoin whom we allegation activity with the draft of every one of our liberties to the death. They acquire no acumen into how their fear, ancestral mistrust, religious mistrust, ageism are achievement acclimated to dispense them. Best of us acquire been beguiled by old war movies, and adapted accession memes achievement advertisement from every believable outlet. If they acquire any minds of their own left, their aboriginal acknowledgment to this affectionate of ascribe is to about-face away, say they don’t appetite to know, can’t face knowing, makes it too adamantine to stand. Some of these will abate and assuredly attending at the evidence. The ones who acquire absolutely accustomed up cerebration for themselves, if they anytime knew how, are abandoned threatened by annihilation that seems to bend from what they’ve been told. Of these, it is the ones with the best testosterone and the diminutive ability with analytic cerebration who will go on the attack, get on these accoutrement and aberration us out.

Everyone, it abandoned takes attractive at the mountains of affirmation accessible to the public. Adjudge for yourselves, anticipate for yourselves, alike if it’s the aboriginal time you anytime approved it.

RLM–If * was not in on it from the git, that would beggarly that Andrew Calendar and his complete Abstruse Annual bouncer would acquire to acquire been in on it, or they would acquire aerated his ass out of that classroom faster than a missile could hit the Pentagon. The 2000 acclamation was baseborn by complete able people, who may abandoned acquire capital his anatomy to ample the position, but alike if they’re animate him, maybe abnormally if they’re animate him, he’s a bribery traitor for not accomplishing commodity about it.

COMMENT #532 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/23/2006 @ 4:41 pm PT…

Agent99

Patrick Henry – I’ve fabricated my escape!Yes I got the new shoe buzz – the spats were a nice touch.But the instructions still say:”Connections at altitudes greater than 7,500 feetabove a reciever and/or at speeds aloft 120 mphare not possible”When are they activity to get one that works on jet liners at 35,000 all-overs and 540 mph like those able models all those bodies acclimated on 9/11?I beggarly are these things we acquire antiques or what!Tell Max not to anguish – I’m OK and don’t ascendancy itagainst him. I anticipate they were testing their new Microwave Weaponat the time and it adeptness be reponsible for his erroniouscompass bearings. Did he feel affectionate of balmy at the time?Be carefull of the balderdash aback you arch for the hay loft.He’s accepted to allegation for no acumen at all.He’ll alike advanced you if you acquire done annihilation to him,and afresh accomplish up a acumen for it later.I acquire he’s a bananas liar.Bring Max aback animate and be affable with him.

COMMENT #533 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/23/2006 @ 4:48 pm PT…

Agent99

I added your #532. It does absolutely acquire that there are those out there who can’t anticipate for themselves, or are abashed to.

It may appointment abundant for a aggressive campaign, but it abiding doesn’t appointment for animate a country.

COMMENT #534 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 5/23/2006 @ 4:50 pm PT…

For Abettor 99: For sure, Backcountry is a traitor if my admission is authentic and he didn’t betrayal it. But aback I said he couldn’t do so, I meant from the standpoint of the “…the country can’t allow to apperceive the truth” bullshit.

That bandage of cerebration additionally rationalizes the accumulated media’s abnegation to betrayal acclamation artifice in 2000 and 2004. What’s needed, obviously, is a civic baton able abundant and affecting abundant to say, “On the contrary, the country can’t allow NOT to apperceive the truth.”

If Eisenhower or Kennedy were alive, they’d be able to ample that role. I agnosticism there’s anyone who is animate who could do so. Walter Cronkite, possibly.

COMMENT #535 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/23/2006 @ 5:33 pm PT…

I’m SO mad they fabricated a brainless adversity cine out of “Flight 93″… like Hollywood is colluding with KAOS. Why won’t they accomplish a cine that is realistic? Not abundant ball with abashed cartage dialing aimlessly and in arrogant to apprehend their admired ones one aftermost time.

Fuck. Patrick Henry. Patrick Henry. Patrick Henry!

COMMENT #536 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/23/2006 @ 5:50 pm PT…

RLM– Don’t balloon that *’s BROTHER and COUSIN ran WTC security. I’m not adage this proves he was in on it. He IS a big abundant addle-pate to acquire been clueless, but cipher in the draft of his ancestors is that stupid, and we acquire to acquire that the able agents of the West Wing, added Abstruse Service, would acquire to acquire been told abundant to accomplish them put two and two calm about immediately.

WHAT accounts for the Abstruse Annual continuing bottomward on affective * to assurance from that classroom? ONLY if Flight 93 was headed for the classroom does it accomplish any adroitness that they wouldn’t acquire aerated him out of there aural 30 abnormal of the South Belfry hit. Whereas, his adage that he’d aboveboard the aboriginal hit on tv already, BEFORE anyone knew there was footage of the aboriginal hit, appealing abundant tells me he was in the know, and somehow the SS was assertive to bend down. (Of course, they DID additionally let accession get appealing abutting to him with a gun aback afresh too. Maybe they’re in alliance with Carnality Fuhrer Darth Fudd.)

COMMENT #537 [Permalink]… Accurateness Appellant said on 5/23/2006 @ 6:20 pm PT…

In the Oliver Stone movie, Cheney will acquaint the aggressive not to stop the planes headed for the WTC because the afterimage of downed planes in NY would be worse. Cheney will accord the chat to hit flights 77 and 93 asap including the missile that absent and hit the Pentagon.

COMMENT #538 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/23/2006 @ 6:43 pm PT…

I accede 99. That is complete abstruse to me. The classroom acknowledgment is complete “odd” 1st he says he saw it on animate TV and thinks to himself, “Now thats one bad pilot. Must’ve had a affection attack” ……….excuse me….He is adage the apprehension that it could be a terrorists advanced never alike occurred to him. Operation bojinka was planned in ’95 with the specific absorbed to bang a alike into the WTC. Accoutrements of memos beatific about terroists activity to attack. Aggressive operations achievement conducted on apish hijacked jets abolition into American landmarks including the WTC. Abundant plots to advanced the WTC. It is able-bodied accustomed that the #1 best adapted abode to advanced is the WTC. Flight 11 is hijacked about 8:15 & Flight 175 advice is beatific out its hijacked at 8:25. The Admiral sees the 1st bang on animate TV (not any TV abject any of us can get) and doesnt alike anticipate to anxiety anyone in Washington aloof see “what’s activity on up there in NY?” But instead he thinks to himself, “now thats one bad pilot……Mustve had a affection attack.” But afresh again: “THE PRESIDENT: No one could acquire conceivably absurd suicide bombers burrowing into our affiliation and afresh arising all in the aforementioned day to fly their aircraft – fly U.S. aircraft into barrio abounding of innocent bodies – and actualization no remorse. Never did anybody’s apprehension activity about how to assure America did we anytime anticipate that the evil-doers would fly not one, but four bartering aircraft into adored U.S. targets – never. But never did I dream we would acquire been beneath advanced this way.” -White Abode (09/16/01)

COMMENT #539 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/23/2006 @ 6:51 pm PT…

While they’re in the affection for Constitutional Amendments, how ’bout let’s alter it to accommodate the Acknowledgment of Independence? That way we acquire an iron-clad antidote for the draft of checks and balances.

Patrick Henry! Patrick Henry! Patrick Henry! Patrick Henry!!!

Goddammit! PATRICK HENRY!!!

COMMENT #540 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/23/2006 @ 7:00 pm PT…

……..and forth doesnt anticipate to himself, “what if a alike is headed at me? What about these kids? Surely, they apperceive i’m here.” no that doesnt alike cantankerous his mind. He claims he didnt appetite to affright the children. Yeah I’m abiding they wouldve recovered bound from the angel and complete of a 757 headed adapted at them and the aftermath. If he didnt appetite to alarm the kids, why did he breach there and acquaint America has been attacked with the kids adapted abutting to him. I apperceive why he didnt booty any activity its because: “THE PRESIDENT: No one could acquire conceivably absurd suicide bombers burrowing into our affiliation and afresh arising all in the aforementioned day to fly their aircraft – fly U.S. aircraft into barrio abounding of innocent bodies – and actualization no remorse.Never did anybody’s apprehension activity about how to assure America did we anytime anticipate that the evil-doers would fly not one, but four bartering aircraft into adored U.S. targets – never. But never did I dream we would acquire been beneath advanced this way.” -White Abode (09/16/01)

COMMENT #541 [Permalink]… Kris said on 5/23/2006 @ 9:19 pm PT…

my babyish apprenticed acquaintance jeff……The official abode is that the 757 “Vaporized” due to acute calefaction acquired by afire jet fuel. If you can accomplish a solid metal about-face into a gas how the FUCK can you use DNA to “identify” the victoms. No lugguge, no appendage fin, no chairs, no engines, no annihilation but a few bits of debris, yet they articular all of the passengers. HAHAHAHAHAAH what the fuck ever

COMMENT #542 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/23/2006 @ 10:27 pm PT…

I do acquire DNA is abundant added brittle than aeroplane partsand would absolutely be destroyed in such a fire.My accompany over at NCIS aloof able appointment on the victim of an admission and had a difficult time of it.They are still accolade cartilage bits in the dust withinthe Deutsche Coffer architectonics abutting to the accompanying towers.Reports say they are as babyish as 1/16th of an inch in size!I will be allurement the arch to requesition a abstraction throughthe lab at NCIS to actuate how annoyed floors cancreate such babyish fragments.Remember 06/06/06 -it is the day to activate to booty bottomward KAOS in California.Patrick Henry

COMMENT #543 [Permalink]… Dredd said on 5/24/2006 @ 7:02 am PT…

A PHONE COMPANYTHAT STANDS UP FOR RIGHTS

SWITCH TOTHE AMERICAN QUEST

(AT&T – SOUTHERN BELL = SPY WHORES)

Demand that all vote blueprint link-ups go thru Qwest buzz lines. All added buzz curve go thru the republican absolutism lackies. The tabulations can be intercepted, changed, afresh pumped on thru to the absolutist ancillary of life.

It isn’t who votes that countsits who sendsthe “vote data” to thefinal destination tabulator

COMMENT #544 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/24/2006 @ 7:27 am PT…

Dredd

My catechism is this – aback there is abandoned one buzz bandage tomy abode and it is endemic by SBC/ATT – alike if I useanother buzz company, isn’t it basicaly for announcement purposes only? Don’t the calls I accomplish and recievestill go through the aforementioned switching arrangement at ATTwhere they are achievement bankrupt into? Or are theysomehow baffled about those hubs?The annal of my calls may acquire abandoned with Quest,for example, but my complete conversations are still victim?

COMMENT #545 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/24/2006 @ 7:34 am PT…

On a day in which 4 planes were confimed hijacks, and the angel witnessed two planes draft into the Angel Trade Centermost Towers, what is so adamantine to acquire about the achievement that a hijacked alike hit the Pentagon?

You bodies allegation to see aggregate to acquire it?

…Oh that’s right, you bodies were all there and had a adventitious to analyze through the bits and see for yourselves what happened, right? No, wrong. You bodies were all home smoker pot and behest for tin antithesis helmets on Ebay while complete adventurous men and women were ambidextrous with the REALITY of 9/11.

You affiliation are a abasement to America and a abasement to the anamnesis of those who died on 9/11 and those who risked their lives extenuative others. Acknowledgment to the MILITARY, you affiliation now acquire the Internet to agitation all your able pot theories.

I don’t anticipate anyone saw an complete video of the USS Cole attack. Was that a missile too? Did a missile hit the Murrah Federal architectonics in OK City as well?

COMMENT #546 [Permalink]… Dredd said on 5/24/2006 @ 7:44 am PT…

RLM #527

You said “As far as 9/11 is concerned, I’m still in the ambivalent camp, Dredd … But if it was all an axial job, why wouldn’t the bodies animate the actualization acquire artlessly let the hijacked alike bang into the Pentagon? What was acquired by downing that alike about abroad and substituting a missile or abate plane?”

When the government asserts a admission in a case, it is their albatross to prove it aloft a reasonable agnosticism to the jury. The actor is not adapted to prove or belie annihilation at all!

Typically the government presents its case, afresh the aegis believability out inconsistencies. The government can never get by with a abnormal prima facia case. Those get absolved at album basal hearings on motions to abolish for abridgement of acceptable evidence.

The 9/11 bureau abode would not accomplish it able the basal hearings … on alternation of aegis alone, and Brady exculpatory affirmation rules, the case would be befuddled out. It is a argumentative joke.

I am additionally accessible to final conclusions, however, at this point I would abolish the government case on basal motions for abridgement of competent affirmation to abutment their case.

Guess that is why they acquire not prosecuted any 9/11 participants to date, alike tho they affirmation to acquire them in aegis in a aphotic abstruse place.

Even bin Burdened and added declared 9/11 prisoners purportedly said Moussaoui had annihilation to do with it (link here), and the board would not book him to afterlife because there were too abounding oddities.

I agnosticism the government could acquire alike gotten a accusable adjudication if the nut case had not pled guilty.

COMMENT #547 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/24/2006 @ 7:58 am PT…

Are they all lying?

“Mark Bright, absolutely saw the alike hit the building. He had been manning the bouncer berth at the Mall Admission to the building. “I saw the alike at the Agile Addendum area,” he said. “I knew it was activity to bang the architectonics because it was very, complete low — at the acme of the artery lights. It agape a brace down.” The alike would acquire been abnormal from appulse — the addendum is abandoned a few hundred yards from the Pentagon. He said he heard the alike “power-up” aloof afore it addled the Pentagon. “As afresh as it addled the architectonics I aloof declared in an attack, because I knew it couldn’t be accidental,” Ablaze said. He jumped into his badge cruiser and headed to the area.”

“Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to appointment but ashore in a cartage jam abreast the Pentagon aback the alike flew over. “There was a huge agreeable babble and I got out of the car as the alike came over. Everybody was animate abroad in adapted directions. It was angry its wings up and bottomward like it was aggravating to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in.”

“Maj. Leibner collection in and fabricated it as far as the south parking lot, breadth he got out on foot. “I heard the alike first,” he said. “I apprehension it was a flyover Arlington cemetery.”From his angle point, Maj. Leibner looked up and saw the alike arise in. “I was about 100 yards away,” he said. “You could see through the windows of the aircraft. I saw it hit.”The alike came in adamantine and affiliated and was aureate abounding burke into the building, comatose centermost mass, Maj. Leibner said. “The alike absolutely entered the building,” he said. “I got a little repercussion, from the sound, the blast. I’ve heard artillery, and that was louder than the loudest has to offer.”

COMMENT #548 [Permalink]… Anatomy Rebel said on 5/24/2006 @ 8:12 am PT…

Jeff. The aggressive does not assure our freedom. It never has. That does not beggarly that the aggressive does not accommodate a “service” and that in some instances that annual is not valuable. But the aggressive does not assure the carelessness of the US homeland. We do that. Us tinfoil pot-smokers. We are the protectors of noncombatant liberties. We are the watchdogs adjoin the affiliation who would bankrupt you of your aloofness and carelessness of speech. We are the ones who avert the Architecture – which, and I anticipate I allege for all of us kooks achievement – is the greatest certificate anytime written. I do not acquire in the Bible. But I do acquire in the Constitution. And I would activity you tooth and attach – both intellectually and physically – to assure it. Acquire that shit, bro.

COMMENT #549 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/24/2006 @ 8:13 am PT…

Firefighter Alan Wallace was continuing alfresco his blaze abject aback he looked aloft the adjacent artery and saw a white aeroplane with orange and dejected trim branch about beeline at him. It airtight into the architectonics aloof a brace hundred all-overs from him. “When I acquainted the fire, I hit the ground,” he said.

http://home.planet.nl/~r…ahole_dimensions_est.htm

COMMENT #550 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/24/2006 @ 8:20 am PT…

“Jeff. The aggressive does not assure our freedom. It never has. That does not beggarly that the aggressive does not accommodate a “service” and that in some instances that annual is not valuable. But the aggressive does not assure the carelessness of the US homeland. We do that. Us tinfoil pot-smokers. We are the protectors of noncombatant liberties. We are the watchdogs adjoin the affiliation who would bankrupt you of your aloofness and carelessness of speech. We are the ones who avert the Architecture – which, and I anticipate I allege for all of us kooks achievement – is the greatest certificate anytime written. I do not acquire in the Bible. But I do acquire in the Constitution. And I would activity you tooth and attach – both intellectually and physically – to assure it. Acquire that shit, bro.”

The aggressive doesn’t assure your freedom? That shows how angled a apperception you ahve if you anticipate our aggressive isn’t out there RIGHT NOW absorption your freedoms. Afterwards the military, our enemies would be able to advanced and annihilate us with impunity. There goes your freedom…

Some of us acquire taken an oath, aloft our adapted hands, and affidavit to avert the Architecture adjoin all enemies, both adopted and DOMESTIC. Acquire that shit, bro.

COMMENT #551 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/24/2006 @ 9:15 am PT…

I was free, before, during, and I will be chargeless afterwards the Iraq War. They are NOT affronted for my freedom. If they anticipate they are, acquaint them to stop it.

Some of you acquire affidavit to avert the Architecture adjoin all enemies, afresh go afterwards Bush, who is trampling over the constitution.

COMMENT #552 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/24/2006 @ 9:16 am PT…

Keep arresting politicians, Jeff. They are the best honest bodies on earth.

COMMENT #553 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/24/2006 @ 9:18 am PT…

Did you explain that annual yet, Jeff? That huge axle that was neatly sawed by thermite??? Accrue alienated the issues and the questions we have, and saying, “I’m patriotic…I took an oath…blah banausic banausic banausic blah…”

COMMENT #554 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/24/2006 @ 9:21 am PT…

btw, they had a nice chat like this, about 9/11 over on raw story, and now it’s gone!

COMMENT #555 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/24/2006 @ 9:22 am PT…

Big Dan,

I accomplishment anytime you are in the claws of a terrorist. I accomplishment anytime you aroma abhorrence and buring beef up close. Maybe aback the knife is inches from your throat, you’ll acquire but I agnosticism it, you’re too far gone.

COMMENT #556 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/24/2006 @ 9:30 am PT…

I still ambidexterity acquire best of you are still engauging Jeff, can best not see his complete motives, and his complete location, and his complete assignment, abandoned a fool argues with a fool. This leads me to acquire there is a about-face chat takeing abode here, one achievement feeds the fire, while the aforementioned person, or bodies agitation the blaze started, arise on people, use you heads, see who he absolutely is, it all can be accidentally viewed, see for yourself.

COMMENT #557 [Permalink]… EA said on 5/24/2006 @ 9:31 am PT…

This armpit has become bunk, for the simple acumen it has been infiltrated by the CIA dissinformation teams.

COMMENT #558 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/24/2006 @ 9:36 am PT…

I’m goona acquire to accede with jeff here. If our aggressive wasnt in iraq arresting our rights, we would allegedly be achievement spied on adapted now, maybe alike wiretapped afterwards warrants. And if we had invaded afghanistan, we would could possibly be adverse any abettor achievement able to arise into our houses aloof to busybody about for no aboveboard reason. and if we hadnt captured saddam hussein we adeptness be adverse the achievability that our administering can bastille the columnist for abortive reports.

Our freedoms are achievement taken and theres no aggressive acknowledgment to it. The acknowledgment has to arise from the people. Our aggressive has been a massive failure, and its not from our abandoned soldiers. It’s from the bodies in the administration. They can’t acquisition bin laden, ambidexterity accomplish any anatomy of success in iraq, ambidexterity assure from hijacked airplanes in the air for over an hr to locate their targets and activity about to accomplish abiding they hit it breadth they appetite to…even acceptance our aggressive had accurately able for that.

My appraisal of this adminstration:Economy: FDomestic: F (just attending at the approval rating)Defense: FForeign Policy: F (were not complete popular)Trying to acquisition bodies accused of killing 3,000 bodies on US soil: F

COMMENT #559 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/24/2006 @ 9:43 am PT…

“I still ambidexterity acquire best of you are still engauging Jeff, can best not see his complete motives, and his complete location, and his complete assignment, abandoned a fool argues with a fool. This leads me to acquire there is a about-face chat takeing abode here, one achievement feeds the fire, while the aforementioned person, or bodies agitation the blaze started, arise on people, use you heads, see who he absolutely is, it all can be accidentally viewed, see for yourself.”

Do you acquire any abstraction what a fucking batty delusional addle-pate you complete like with a cavalcade like this?

My admonish stands: Abolish the tin antithesis hat, footfall aback abroad from the bong. Await the accuracy that will hopefully be alternating shortly…

COMMENT #560 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/24/2006 @ 9:46 am PT…

I accede with EA. The complete botheration isnt Jeff, it’s our accord with Israel.

COMMENT #561 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/24/2006 @ 10:17 am PT…

Brian: With accompany like that, who needs enemies?

COMMENT #562 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/24/2006 @ 10:17 am PT…

“I accede with EA. The complete botheration isnt Jeff, it’s our accord with Israel.”

Newsflash fucknuts: The complete botheration is abolitionist Islam.

AKA: IslamoFascists.

The eventually you apprehend this the better.

COMMENT #563 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 5/24/2006 @ 10:50 am PT…

Jeff, if the complete botheration is abolitionist Islam, as you say, afresh Backcountry fabricated a aberrant absurdity by advancing Iraq.

Saddam Hussein is an abominable guy, but he is absolutely not a abolitionist Muslim. His aphorism over Iraq was basically secular, with apartment fabricated to Sunni Muslims. Osama bin Burdened is allotment of abolitionist Islam (or at diminutive claims to be), and he has declared Saddam Hussein an “infidel” in public. But Osama is still abnormality about somewhere, and Backcountry told us he doesn’t absolutely affliction breadth he is and doesn’t anticipate about him.

So instead of administering your animadversion to us, and cogent us “the eventually (we) apprehend this the better,” you’d do anybody a favor by cogent the White House. Amuse let us apperceive what they say in reply.

COMMENT #564 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/24/2006 @ 10:59 am PT…

“Jeff, if the complete botheration is abolitionist Islam, as you say, afresh Backcountry fabricated a aberrant absurdity by advancing Iraq.”

Wrong. You are the victim of outdating cerebration and a complete poor effirt on the allotment of the Bushies to advertise this war properly. By advancing Iraq, we topped a complete affronted administering and put the IslamoFascist angel on apprehension by saying: If you wanna fight, achievement we are. And assumption what? The terrorists and added enemies of America showed up and assumption what? We’re killing them by the thousands. Abiding we’re demography casualties and as a Vet, I abhorrence to see that, but I dust my teeth and accord with it. We are at war, at a abode and time of OUR choosing. Futhermore, if we are to accord with Iran, it helps a abundant accord to already be in Iraq.

Iran, you remeber them, right? The country that declared war on American in 1979 and took our bodies hostage, the country that affairs to nuke Israel if they can, the country run by a aloft terrorist….Yes, that Iran.

Iraq is breadth the activity is. You aloof don’t appetite to fight.

And as for Bin Laden, we’ll get him. You’ll see.

COMMENT #565 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/24/2006 @ 11:07 am PT…

EARTH TO JEFF: THIS IS NOT RUSHLIMBOOB.COM

COMMENT #566 [Permalink]… Roger said on 5/24/2006 @ 11:07 am PT…

I’m allegedly authoritative a aberration achievement but..

Jeff, you’re an insult to humanity. You anticipate because abolitionist Islamists acquire that there aren’t besmirched politicians? You anticipate because you are so abashed of dying at the calmly of terrorists that advancing added countries will do the trick? You anticipate that the best way to assure the Architecture is to abort it? Abound a brain.And apprentice how to spell, nitwit.

COMMENT #567 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/24/2006 @ 11:17 am PT…

Brian, bodies acquire to forget…well bodies like Jeff… that BUSH was the f***ing admiral on 9/11, in allegation of befitting us safe!!! It wasn’t “someone else”, it was Bush-Cheney on guard. Jeff/kook-aiders: Clinton was not admiral on 9/11. Backcountry is a abortion to the American people, and aggregate he’s accomplishing is absolutely a success to the acute elites & aggressive complex. And our soldiers lives are achievement acclimated by them, and the 3,000 bodies sacrificed for PNAC’s “pearl harbor”, also.

There is affidavit that our government had affairs in the able to “sacrifice” it’s citizens, for an agenda.

By the way, FSTV is off the archive with their programming. They had commodity on comparing Hitler to Bush. EXACTLY!!! And how the aggressive automated circuitous is animate our adopted policies. It’s educational TV, the achievement the corporate-controlled MSM doesn’t appetite us to know. The eventually we apprehend that the cold of the MSM is NOT to acquaint its citizens of the truth, the eventually this country will become America again, and we will be acting like Americans to added countries. Not advancing complete nations “pre-emptively”. Diplomacy doesn’t accomplish $$$ for the aggressive automated complex, though.

COMMENT #568 [Permalink]… big dan said on 5/24/2006 @ 11:21 am PT…

The underpaid soldiers are NOT to be abashed with the aggressive automated complex. The MIC are the bigwigs authoritative profits and not fighting, but authoritative added profits with added war. The soldiers are underpaid. I never apprehend Backcountry saying, “Let’s bifold the soldiers’ pay.” But he’s giving multi-hundred-million dollar affairs to Cheney’s Halliburton all the time. He’s absolutely CUTTING the soldiers benefits.

COMMENT #569 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/24/2006 @ 12:03 pm PT…

How abounding bodies absolutely acquire the agitator abhorrence us because of our freedoms. Are they absolutely adage they hates us because we’re not slaves. And if they hated because we acquire commodity they dont have, afresh why arent they advancing the govt’s in the countries breadth they are. No i assumption they appetite angel avant-garde slavery. I assumption they feel abuse their govt’s is too adamantine so they’ll administer on abuse the all-around superpower. They abhorrence us because our gov’t is over there raping their acreage and killing them. Why do we acquire the rights to the oil in their land? We dont, but if annihilation threatens the supply, we will barrage pre-emptive war. So we acquire a activity that says if you abuse our oil accession advancing out of the arena we will go to war with you. As if to say, dont blend with our resources. And if we are there to liberate, afresh why are American companies accepting the architectonics contracts. Surely, the Boilerplate Eastern bodies apperceive how to assignment oil. But instead of creating jobs for their people, we accord the American companies and contractors the jobs. But delay who are we to adjudge who gives out the jobs? Why arent the bodies asked for their opinions on how to run the assets in their own country? Its because we acquire to accomplish abiding we acquire ultimate contorl of their lands, with no absorption for their opinions. Thats why they abhorrence us. Because we try to ascendancy and annoyer them, and they get no say “in their own house.”

COMMENT #570 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/24/2006 @ 12:13 pm PT…

“They abhorrence us because our gov’t is over there raping their acreage and killing them.”

You’re an unAmerican, agitator affectionate moron. I acquire in your mind, the 9/11 advanced on America was justified because of how we try to “control and annoyer them”, right?

COMMENT #571 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/24/2006 @ 12:21 pm PT…

no. I’m a rational animal being, who cares about altruism aloft achievement an American. Beneath the political level, we all aloof appetite the aforementioned things. As animal beings we all appetite to peace, love, and the afterward of happiness.

Jeff in your circuitous to me you bootless to abode the issues i raised, the abandoned affair you addressed was my character. So i affectation the catechism again, “why are their resources, ours to accomplish the decisions on?”

COMMENT #572 [Permalink]… bluebear 2 said on 5/24/2006 @ 12:32 pm PT…

Agent 86

Patrick Henry – Achievement is a photo of accession buildingnear the accompanying towers. (I acquire not acquaint thephoto achievement to save accent on 99)It was amaged by bits from the towers.Compare the action of this buildingwith that of WT7 afore it fell.Why is this one still continuing if we believethe official adventitious about WT7?I can’t delay for the car – I’ve consistently capital a Sunbeam Tiger. Or will it be the Opal?The catechism is whether my affiliated legs will fit.I’ve heard that CONTROL has beatific Larrabee toPakistan to chase for Osama aback he hasbeen aboveboard there..I haven’t abundant accepting acceptance aback he is such a bumbler!He has alike been accepted to say he doesn’t accord a damnif Osama is activate or not!I am afraid that KAOS has gotten to Larrabee and heis in alliance with Osama.Any way acknowledgment for your adequate words – don’t let 99 inon the annual affiliated aloft until she has returnedto her office.Trying to admeasurement it on that semispherical screenand the 2 hour download will absolutely drive her crazy.If you do acquire to acquaint her be abiding to lowerthe cone of blackout to save us all from the torment.I would admonish that you additionally acquire alfresco of it.Patrick Henry

COMMENT #573 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/24/2006 @ 12:37 pm PT…

“As animal beings we all appetite to peace, love, and the afterward of happiness.”

When a agitator (or “human being” as you claim) is sawing a animal arch off or aerial a alike abounding of bodies into a architectonics abounding of added people, do you absolutely anticipate they are accomplishing this with thoughts of peace, love, and the afterward of beatitude in mind?

Gimme a fucking break..

Islamofascists appetite war, death, and destruction.

“why are their resources, ours to accomplish the decisions on?”

Because they acquire aboveboard that they are irresponsible, dangerous, and cannot administer the world’s oil accession properly. Of course, in your irenic mind, their oil revenues go to authoritative their countries better, educating their children, and paving new roads.

Newsflash: Bits aint like that in the Boilerplate East. Already again, I allege from ifrst duke experience. Can you?

COMMENT #574 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/24/2006 @ 12:53 pm PT…

and in your apperception their oil will pay for the war and the reconstruction. if they are already abhorrence us the how will killing added of them help? It’s as if we are achievement told, “well they already abhorrence us so the abandoned affair we can do is annihilate them.” They dont abhorrence us, they abhorrence our American/Isreali position with them. And our posiiotn is you arent responsible, you are dangerous, and you ambidexterity handle this properly. Therefore, we are responsible, not dangerous, and we apperceive how to administer the supply. So able-bodied accomplish the decisions for you. And aback we arent dangerous, we will let you apperceive that if you try to ascendancy what is absolutely yours, we will barrage war and annihilate your citizens.

COMMENT #575 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/24/2006 @ 1:02 pm PT…

Liberal accord is a complete bad ache but there is a cure and it’s declared accepted sense. Try it, it may absolutely appointment for you.

But aboriginal amusement me… what absolutely is the American/Israeli “position” that is so hated and so bad that it justfies the brand of 9/11 and the beheading and executions of civilians?

COMMENT #576 [Permalink]… Jeff said on 5/24/2006 @ 1:09 pm PT…

You avant-garde cheese bistro abandonment monkeys may not accede with the war in Iraq and in some way I can annual that, accustomed how ailing the Bushies abounding it to you, but accustomed the VILE conduct of our adversary in the war, does that abandoned not absolve the US adequate the war and not acid and animate as you’d like?

The adversary draft themselves up, annihilate civilians by the thousands, decollate and assassinate civilians, and we are to accolade this affectionate of behavior by affairs out and saying, “oops, we’re sorry…We can see that you absolutely aloof appetite adulation and accord and aback you beheaded our civilians, it was because you had aloof annual to do so, afterwards all we’re so bad…”

Uh..NOT!!

COMMENT #577 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/24/2006 @ 1:34 pm PT…

I’m not a liberal, republican, democrat, left, right….i’m an everday American who wants a bigger angel for my son than we acquire adapted now. I dont anticipate this war is creating a bigger abode for the abutting abode and the abode after. And I acquire best arab bodies appetite the same. Conflict is a animal appropriate but so is absent what is best for your children. Killing bodies abandoned reenforces the hatred. What doesnt brand abhorrence is compromise, discussion, & aggravating to acquire why bodies do what they do. That absolutely opens the aperture to beneath violence. If absent accord and compassionate is a ache afresh I assumption I’m infected.

Jeff:The adversary draft themselves up, annihilate civilians by the thousands, decollate and assassinate civilians, and we are to accolade this affectionate of behavior by affairs out and saying, “oops, we’re sorry…We can see that you absolutely aloof appetite adulation and accord and aback you beheaded our civilians, it was because you had aloof annual to do so, afterwards all we’re so bad…”

They draft themselves up becausie they are accommodating to die for their beiefs(just like you. accommodating to die for the cause) They annihilate civilians by the accoutrements (we do the same) decollate and assassinate civilians is absolutely aloof the aforementioned affair you aloof said. What are they affronted for? What will they accede victory? Oh wait, I apperceive it’s because bodies 1/2 way about the angel acquire freedoms.

COMMENT #578 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/24/2006 @ 2:01 pm PT…

The bulk of Iraq war: $283,000,000,000 that bulk of $ is according to:

Instead, we could acquire paid for 37,510,064 accouchement to arise a year of Arch Start.Instead, we could acquire insured 169,581,486children for one year.Instead, we could acquire assassin 4,907,910additional accessible academy agents for one year.Instead, we could acquire provided 13,728,972students four-year scholarships at accessible universities.Instead, we could acquire congenital 2,549,961additional apartment units.Instead, we could acquire absolutely adjourned all-around anti-hunger efforts for 11 years.Instead, we could acquire absolutely adjourned all-embracing AIDS programs for 28 years.Instead, we could acquire ensured that every adolescent in the angel was accustomed basal immunizations for 94 years.

But because the administering cares about the bodies of Iraq so abundant they chose to blot this money for them. And alike added for the peolple of Iran. So why do they affliction about the “savage” arabs added than our own people. My assumption is that they dont affliction about bodies at all. Attending at all the annual that couldve been accustomed the the Americans as able-bodied as the world, but the abandoned way we ambidexterity get the agitation to stop is with war.

COMMENT #579 [Permalink]… Anatomy Rebel said on 5/24/2006 @ 4:08 pm PT…

How did the 9-11 hijackers apperceive about the anxiety holes?

What we acquire aboveboard is that whoever planned and implemented 9-11 allegation acquire had abundant adeptness of both the NORAD and FAA anxiety coverage. They cunningly exploited vulnerabilities in the anxiety that abandoned the US Militaryand the FAA should acquire been acquainted of. The 9-11 bureau abandoned skimmed the credible of these issues, appliance them as a bureau to draw allegation abroad from theFAA and NORAD.Another important catechism is why the hijackers took such affiliated casuistic routes to get to their targets. Why, for example, was Flight 93 not comatose into the Angel Trade Centre, which was in afterimage of the airport?Analysis of the flight paths reveals the achievability that the planes were switched for acting “drone” planes, operated by alien ascendancy and loaded with explosives to annual best damage.

http://www.team8plus.org…movement/radar/Radar.htm

COMMENT #580 [Permalink]… Accurateness Appellant said on 5/24/2006 @ 5:35 pm PT…

COMMENT #581 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/24/2006 @ 7:37 pm PT…

COMMENT #582 [Permalink]… Dredd said on 5/25/2006 @ 4:59 am PT…

Jeff #557

Is that how you abstruse about “freedom”? One can acquaintance all that in a assemblage activity or a mafia hit. It has annihilation to do with America. Your affectionate of stinkin thinkin has annihilation to do with civics, the constitution, or America. That abhorrent cerebration has existed aback affronted came into existence.

You are an islameo fascist.

It seems that the republican absolutism has activate a way to absolve the voting apparatus companies and the teleco’s.

For the aboriginal time in US history, clandestine companies are adequate adjuncts to spying and are achievement adequate beneath civic aegis concepts:

“President George W. Backcountry has bestowed on his intelligence czar, John Negroponte, ample authority, in the name of civic security, to alibi about traded companies from their accepted accounting and securities-disclosure obligations. Apprehension of the development came in a abrupt admission in the Federal Register, anachronous May 5, 2006, that was blurred to the green eye” (link here).

This bureau they do not acquire to acknowledge banking abstracts aback the abracadabra baton civic aegis is waived.

And it alike alcove the telecom companies that are accomplishing the NSA spy bedraggled work:

“Telecom behemothic Verizon is abnegation to affirm or abjure accord in the actionable Civic Aegis Bureau (NSA) wiretapping program, as citizens in Maine appetite the state�s Accessible Utilities Bureau (PUC) to investigate whether the aggregation handed over its buzz records.

In a tight-lipped 44-page acknowledgment to the PUC aftermost Friday, Verizon argued that the Bureau lacks the ascendancy to investigate a complaint that the blast aggregation was circuitous in the NSA program. The aggregation added claimed such advice is adequate by the state-secrets privilege” (link here, adventurous added).

My assumption is that this may be acclimated to assure the big three acclamation apparatus companies (ES&S, Diebold, and Sequoia) aback it becomes accessible that the nation has been destabilized alike in its acclamation system.

Thanks for all the aegis Jeffie, our hero …

COMMENT #583 [Permalink]… Anatomy Rebel said on 5/25/2006 @ 8:02 am PT…

Dammit, I aloof bankrupt my bong. Frickin’ bargain glass….wait, wait….Made in Mexico. See what happens aback you outsource adequate American bongmaking jobs????

COMMENT #584 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 5/25/2006 @ 10:48 am PT…

I’ve had bristles minutes’ beddy-bye in the aftermost day; gotta do a agglomeration of achievement today, and will allegedly be on my face in my banquet bowl tonight. Max is hiking in the dupe to agitate off the all-overs from the KAOS aggression of his home and identity.

So, Bluebear2, Buck Henry, and I’ll assay aback as afresh as I’m apprehensible again. 86 took his spats in his haversack so they wouldn’t get dirty. You can adeptness him that way if things get too weird, and you allegation them weirder. xoxoxox

Soul Rebel: You can BUY bongs? I apprehension you hit pots with them? Or do we abrasion the pots on our heads, and beachcomber our tin foil?

See yez all tomorree. love, 99

COMMENT #585 [Permalink]… brian said on 5/25/2006 @ 7:32 pm PT…

I was watching rumsfeld on larry king. larry baron asks rumsfeld to acknowledge about Ray Mcgovern against him on adage he knew breadth the wmd’s are. Afore rumsfeld can answer, larry baron answers, ” you said suspected.” rumsfeld “yeah, I said suspected.” afresh he says in commendations to Mcgovern, “that’s what he does. he goes all about and does that.” and larry baron moves on

that is so abundant BS that i’m physically sick.

rumsfeld aria and was bent knew he was caught. so his acknowledgment is to lie, “yeah, I said doubtable sites.” but in absoluteness his acknowledgment to mcgovern was “I NEVER SAID THAT.” abutting he slanders mcgoverns credibility, “oh thats aloof what he does.” but afresh in reality, what does he do? Chase our leaders to ascendancy them accountable.

The affair that was aloft was, rumsfeld you aria so explain yourself. Instead of explaining, he artlessly turns the achievement that he aria to us into: aw ray mcgovern is a kook. that is so BS.

COMMENT #586 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/25/2006 @ 8:38 pm PT…

Brian:

I was in the cat-and-mouse allowance at the doctors and the actualization you advertence was on the tube in the corner. I listened to about 3 sentences out of rummy’s aperture afore I couldn’t bend any more. Such a accumulation of crap.

COMMENT #587 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/25/2006 @ 8:39 pm PT…

COMMENT #588 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 5/26/2006 @ 9:33 pm PT…

Billy Idol – we’ve been abducted by A.R. Chives!

COMMENT #589 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 7/17/2006 @ 4:24 pm PT…

Thanks 99

{xoxoxoxox, BB2 –99}

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